1SupremeBeing Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 First, the only games I can get it to support are Sims 4, Skyrim SE, and Stardew Valley. I can't figure out how to add any other games and it apparently doesn't read what I have installed like NMM since it can't seem to find Morrowind, Oblivion, or the original Skyrim. If they aren't supported then Vortex is rather useless to me. I don't use a mod manager for Sims 4, so adding Stardew Valley isn't worth loosing the other 3 games. Second, Vortex can't read any mods already installed in the 3 games it did find. From everything I read my choices are to import from NMM (which can cause problems) drag & drop from NMM (which can cause problems) or uninstall all of my mods & reinstall using Vortex. I'm not misunderstanding anything or assuming anything. I got these facts straight from Vortex Help Pages. Doing a clean install would take weeks with all the mods I use. Third, all mods not handled by NMM, such as those I created myself or those I manually installed, can't be imported and may not be readable by Vortex. There is a warning in Vortex stating that these mods may malfunction or not work at all. That means I absolutely can't use Vortex with Sims 4 since I have over 400 mods that are from sites which require manual downloads, but it also means I can't use mods I created for personal use for Skyrim SE. Fourth, the interface is not user friendly. It is confusing at times, and many features are not explained. I hate using something that laves me scratching my head or makes me look it up online just to figure out basic functions. It needs a built-in manual to explain things. Maybe in the future Vortex will improve enough to be an acceptable replacement for NMM, but it has a long way to go. Right now I'd rather install manually than use Vortex. Sorry if that hurts any feelings, but this forum is for honest feedback and that is what I'm giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Vortex supports 41 games right now.I'm going to assume you haven't read any of the knowledge base that can walk you through a lot of thisAlso, the Staff of Nexus mods has said on numerous occasions, if you already have a working setup, then don't switch to Vortex, keep what you have and start from scratch with a newly installed gameYour user name is really ironic considering.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 It needs a built-in manual to explain things.It HAS a built in manual that explains things.Click on KNOWLEDGE BASE in the left hand menu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1SupremeBeing Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 I did read the knowledge base, which is where I found out that importing or drag & drop can cause problems. After reading about that I didn't look extensively for how to get it to find all of my games. It couldn't or didn't find them on it's own even after me telling it where to look, although I know it supports at least one of them. The staff has said that, for now, we should use NMM if it's working for us. The staff also made it clear that NMM is no longer supported, and we need to switch to Vortex eventually. I never found a built-in manual. I had to use the knowledge base to find out what I needed to know to use Vortex. Maybe it's a glitch in my install of Vortex since I didn't find any kind of help tab or link within Vortex itself. I thought that it was strange but thought the help might be added later. This forum is for feedback so they can learn what we do & don't like about Vortex. That is how companies find out what customers want, how they improve their products, and what the description of the forum says it's for. I wasn't just ripping apart their product for fun. I gave them my opinion of their product in the hopes that they may find it useful, or at least understand why I prefer NMM to Vortex which is also useful information to them. For instance if Vortex already has a manual then I just found a bug that I wasn't aware of, but they will know about the bug when they read this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 why would a clean install of your mods take weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I never found a built-in manual. I had to use the knowledge base to find out what I needed to know to use Vortex. THAT is the Manual. Third, all mods not handled by NMM, such as those I created myself or those I manually installed, can't be imported and may not be readable by Vortex. There is a warning in Vortex stating that these mods may malfunction or not work at all. That means I absolutely can't use Vortex with Sims 4 since I have over 400 mods that are from sites which require manual downloads, but it also means I can't use mods I created for personal use for Skyrim SE. I don't know how you've got Vortex set up on your system, but I use mods I make all the time, and vortex finds them just fine.I zip up the mod, put it in the Vortex DOWNLOADS folder and vortex lists it and from there I can install it.I'm not sure what you're doing, but it's super easy to use your own mods. If you have 400 mods that require manual downloads from other sites, then you weren't using NMM to download them either, so I'm not sure what you problem is there with Vortex.The warning about Mods not functioning, it would help if you posted the warning so we can see what the problem is, rather than just complaining about it, that gets us nowhere.Is it a warning about Symlinks, Hardlinks etc?DETAILS, we need details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1SupremeBeing Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 why would a clean install of your mods take weeks?Because I have so many mods. 6 heavily modded games, 600 to 1000 mods per game equals a lot of time & effort redownloading them all. THAT is the Manual.The Knowledge Base is online and not a built-in manual. I was suggesting a manual built into Vortex so we can learn how to work the basic functions without having to go online. Special features can be looked up online, but basic use should be explained through Vortex itself. I don't know how you've got Vortex set up on your system, but I use mods I make all the time, and vortex finds them just fine.I zip up the mod, put it in the Vortex DOWNLOADS folder and vortex lists it and from there I can install it.I'm not sure what you're doing, but it's super easy to use your own mods. If you have 400 mods that require manual downloads from other sites, then you weren't using NMM to download them either, so I'm not sure what you problem is there with Vortex.The warning about Mods not functioning, it would help if you posted the warning so we can see what the problem is, rather than just complaining about it, that gets us nowhere.Is it a warning about Symlinks, Hardlinks etc?DETAILS, we need details.The warnings are in the Knowledge Base. I didn't try to import the mods from NMM because when I was looking up how to do so, the knowledge base states that because the two programs handle mods differently both drag & drop and importing methods can cause corruption of files or mods to malfunction. I didn't want to risk damaging my games or mods. When looking in the knowledge base to find out why none of my mods are showing up in Vortex, even the ones I manually installed (including my created ones) the Knowledge Base states that all mods that are manually installed may be invisible to Vortex, and those mods will either malfunction or not work at all. Since all of my installed mods are invisible to Vortex none of them function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 If I were you, I would heed the warning that is writ large, that says you are not forced to use vortex, and you shouldn't if you have a system that works for you.my only advice for you, if you want to transition from your current mod manager to vortex is to take one game, and only one game, then try to get that working as you currently have it, using vortex alone. if you have issues, which you claim you do, then as you encounter those issues, report them to the vortex developers. by doing that, you will, over time, be able to transition fully to vortex, and you never know, the unique mods that you appear to have in your modded games, may lead to improvements in vortex.The key phrase in all of that is "if you want to transition from your current mod manager to vortex". if you don't 100% want to do it, then don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1SupremeBeing Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 If I were you, I would heed the warning that is writ large, that says you are not forced to use vortex, and you shouldn't if you have a system that works for you.my only advice for you, if you want to transition from your current mod manager to vortex is to take one game, and only one game, then try to get that working as you currently have it, using vortex alone. if you have issues, which you claim you do, then as you encounter those issues, report them to the vortex developers. by doing that, you will, over time, be able to transition fully to vortex, and you never know, the unique mods that you appear to have in your modded games, may lead to improvements in vortex.The key phrase in all of that is "if you want to transition from your current mod manager to vortex". if you don't 100% want to do it, then don't.If I were you, I'd read what this forum is for. I gave feedback. Period. I wasn't reporting bugs or problems because that is a different forum. I GAVE FEEDBACK!!! If you guys don't like my opinion of Vortex, then don't read what I wrote! Vortex DiscussionDiscuss Vortex and give us your feedback. Let us know what you think of Vortex here, what you like, don't like, and what you'd like to see improved.This is what the forum is for! I did what Nexus is asking us to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Well that's what I get for trying to interact with you. Good luck, you little charmer. :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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