Vanguardascendant Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Railroad: Don't join the Brotherhood of Steel. They want to kill all synths, including women and children! Player: Ok, so what's your plan? Railroad: Nuke the institute, including all the women and children! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkusTay Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I never got that far in my thinking. I get stuck at "We save synths by rendering them all brain-dead' (which is precisely what they are doing when they wipe their minds - they DESTROYED that person). In other words, how are the Railroad any different than the Mechanist's robots? "We save the people of the Commonwealth by killing them". Same thing to me. As far as I'm concerned, volunteering to have your brain erased is the same as suicide. Note that the Railroad's main operator (Heavy) is a synth who DIDN'T opt to get her personality wiped. Hypocrisy at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonslayer2k12 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Some of the worst writing you will ever find outside of hollywood is in bethesda games. I hope metro exodus doesn't suck and outer worlds too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguardascendant Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 I never got that far in my thinking. I get stuck at "We save synths by rendering them all brain-dead' (which is precisely what they are doing when they wipe their minds - they DESTROYED that person). In other words, how are the Railroad any different than the Mechanist's robots? "We save the people of the Commonwealth by killing them". Same thing to me. As far as I'm concerned, volunteering to have your brain erased is the same as suicide. Note that the Railroad's main operator (Heavy) is a synth who DIDN'T opt to get her personality wiped. Hypocrisy at its finest. Hadn't even considered that. Another good point. The Railroad is more of a terrorist organization than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKKmods Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Point of order: Amari performs memory wipes, not full mind wipes. Unfortunately the Amari dialogue is imprecise and uses both terms interchangeably. I would infer that the script writer probably didn't write this stuff (which plays 120 seconds in 100 hours of entertainment) to survive forensic decomposition by OCD fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montky Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Unmodded FO4 is rather "linear",as a lot of the nCr worth of dialogue branches were incomplete,a lot of content was cut, etc. The Railroad though;they're not a homogenous united front. true, some get obsessed with their 'right to exist',some only want the Institute SRB gone.others, want 'off-world' like the Ghouls of Novac.others, just want to live out their lifespan in peace. -----The railroad exists, to provide a pathway for sentient androids.the alternative, is that the Institute 'permanently dismantles' those individuals... (Although the institute has been known to use the Railroad,via a delusion of freedom metanarrative, to pre-position assets they can later telepresence or use). The Railroad want self-autonomy for androids,so as they're free from the influence of A.S.I.s, humans, mutants and other lifeforms,to do as they would wish, rather than be slaves or altered against their will. -----with mods,its possible to find detente and truces between many factions;you can find more diplomatic solutions,retain the Good Institute and reunite them with the Railroad,form the Boston Accord Authority which in time, meets up with the NCR... You can then find the 'best possible paragon of virtue ending" possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguardascendant Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 It seems that's a romanticized view of the Railroad based on their intentions, not their actions. Based on their actions, they're terrorists. Most of them are far too willing to nuke civilians in the name of their ideology. That seems more in common with the 911 terrorists than it does with the real-life Underground Railroad that rescued slaves in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 The railroad bases their actions on the thought that synths are 'people'. Now, I wonder, how many 'people', have they actually memory wiped? Not referring to syths here, but, actual humans. So far as I know, it simply isn't possible to wipe a human brain, and then implant new memories. Thus, proving that syths are NOT people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKKmods Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) Really, you have not experienced memory repression and implantation ? Its a thing in real life ! EDIT: nah, you've clearly been wiped already. Edited January 31, 2019 by SKK50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madcat221 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Ehrm... what? The Railroad will flip their lids at you if you don't pull the emergency evac lever. Furthermore, the stuff Amari does is entirely voluntary. It does in fact sit uneasily with some members. Glory isn't keen on it, yet... look at her. Die-hard Railroad heavy. </factual reassertion> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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