Need some advice on ILS Problem please

[HippeusOmega]

For some reason I'm getting infinite loading screens. No CTD issues just infinite loading and can't figure out why exactly. Seems to happen when I start a new game where the engine just seems to stall or something once I leave the abandon prison through alternate start. Doesn't happen all the time but enough where I'd like to address it. I included my load order if needed and it's been sorted by Vortex/Loot other then a few custom rules put in place for things like Palaces and such. My plugin count is at 291 but 55 of them are light masters.

 

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
254 FE 0 AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl
6 6 ApachiiHairMales.esm
7 7 BSAssets.esm
8 8 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
9 9 arnima.esm
10 a BSHeartland.esm
11 b MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
12 c BS_DLC_patch.esp
254 FE 1 Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl
254 FE 2 Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esl
13 d EFFCore.esm
14 e Falskaar.esm
15 f Heels Sound.esm
16 10 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
17 11 Gray Fox Cowl.esm
18 12 Wyrmstooth.esp
254 FE 3 SimpleChildren.esp
19 13 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
20 14 Immersive Wenches.esp
21 15 SkyUI_SE.esp
22 16 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
23 17 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
24 18 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
25 19 Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
26 1a Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
27 1b 3DNPC.esp
28 1c Cutting Room Floor.esp
29 1d BetterQuestObjectives.esp
30 1e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
31 1f MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
32 20 Undeath.esp
33 21 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
34 22 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
35 23 DeadlyCombat.esp
36 24 NoSpells.esp
37 25 Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
38 26 YunDao_Hdt_Hair.esp
39 27 RaceMenuHH.esp
254 FE 4 DBM_Ongar Brewer.esp
40 28 iNeed.esp
41 29 iNeed - Extended.esp
42 2a Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
43 2b Immersive Jewelry.esp
44 2c Coins of Tamriel V2 SSE Edition.esp
45 2d Obsidian Weathers.esp
254 FE 5 ObsidianWeatherBrumaPatch.esp
46 2e UndeadFX.esp
47 2f ABBA-outfit.esp
48 30 EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp
49 31 Helgen Reborn.esp
50 32 Morrowloot.esp
51 33 Undriel_QuaintRavenRock.esp
52 34 OpulentThievesGuild.esp
53 35 T'Skyrim Riverwood.esp
54 36 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
55 37 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
56 38 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
57 39 moonpath.esp
58 3a JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp
59 3b SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp
60 3c OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp
61 3d Legendary Artifacts.esp
62 3e ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
63 3f Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
64 40 Immersive Weapons.esp
65 41 Audio Patches Merged.esp
66 42 AHZmoreHUD.esp
67 43 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
68 44 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
254 FE 6 Wintersun - LotD Patch.esp
69 45 Inconsequential NPCs.esp
70 46 JKs Whiterun.esp
71 47 SkyrimSewers.esp
72 48 Dwarfsphere.esp
73 49 JK's Riverwood.esp
74 4a Tel Mithryn.esp
75 4b Run For Your Lives.esp
76 4c Cloaks.esp
77 4d LABikiniSSE.esp
78 4e PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
79 4f Better Vampires.esp
80 50 SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
81 51 Inigo.esp
254 FE 7 Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
82 52 Artifacts.esp
83 53 YurianaWench.esp
84 54 Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp
85 55 konahrik_accoutrements.esp
254 FE 8 Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE 9 Wintersun - USSEP Patch.esp
86 56 QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp
87 57 3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp
88 58 WZOblivionArtifacts.esp
89 59 Bloodworm.esp
90 5a Fossilsyum.esp
91 5b Tools of Kagrenac.esp
92 5c Vigilant.esp
93 5d Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
94 5e SL99Exchanger.esp
95 5f notice board.esp
96 60 ForgottenCity.esp
97 61 LADX_SSE.esp
98 62 Men of Winter.esp
99 63 The Ordinary Women.esp
100 64 Ars Metallica.esp
101 65 WheelsOfLull.esp
102 66 treasure_hunt.esp
103 67 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
254 FE a SkyrimSewersUndeathPatch.esp
104 68 magic of the magna-ge.esp
105 69 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
106 6a Vampirelordroyal.esp
107 6b middenexpandedlitesse.esp
108 6c ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
109 6d Coldhaven.esp
110 6e Ravengate.esp
111 6f MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp
112 70 3DNPC+QaxesWR.esp
113 71 Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp
114 72 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
115 73 LustmordVampireArmor.esp
254 FE b Wintersun - CRF Patch.esp
116 74 [sunJeong] Kailani Bikini.esp
117 75 UIExtensions.esp
118 76 AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
119 77 AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp
120 78 Animated Dragon WingsSE.esp
121 79 AnotherVampireLeatherArmor.esp
122 7a Dr_Bandolier.esp
123 7b Beards.esp
124 7c BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
125 7d Better Dynamic Snow.esp
126 7e MajesticMountains.esp
127 7f Better Dynamic Ash.esp
128 80 BDS - MM Patch.esp
129 81 JRMoonpathBrumaPatch.esp
130 82 BlendedRoads.esp
131 83 AIO SE TATTOOS.esp
254 FE c CBBE.esp
132 84 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
133 85 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
134 86 CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
135 87 Dem Collection for CBBE.esp
136 88 Deadly Wenches.esp
137 89 Eyes of Aber.esp
138 8a FNIS.esp
139 8b FNIS_PCEA2.esp
140 8c FNISSexyMove.esp
141 8d BVFE.esp
142 8e Footprints.esp
254 FE d WheelsOfLull - Forgotten City - Bruma Patch.esp
143 8f GPPoses.esp
144 90 Gray Fox Flora Overhaul.esp
145 91 Brows.esp
146 92 MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp
147 93 USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
148 94 KS Hairdo's.esp
149 95 Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp
150 96 Immersive Wenches -Enslaved Wenches patch-.esp
151 97 Ivy Valentine Armor.esp
152 98 KMBikini.esp
153 99 Konahriks Privilege by Edhelsereg.esp
154 9a LADX_SSE_Fix-CBBE.esp
155 9b BetterShapedWeaponsLW-XB.esp
156 9c BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp
254 FE e MiniBikini.esp
157 9d Mortal Enemies.esp
158 9e Mystic Enchantress.esp
159 9f NecromancerAmulet.esp
160 a0 Follower_Nyan.esp
161 a1 SL99Exchanger_Patch_Coins of Tamriel V2 SSE Edition.esp
162 a2 Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp
163 a3 UIL & Path of the Revenant Patch.esp
164 a4 AHO_Patch.esp
254 FE f Qw_3DNPC_TheOrdinaryWomen Patch.esp
254 FE 10 Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE 11 Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE 12 Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_CRF Patch.esp
165 a5 ScarletDawnArmor.esp
166 a6 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
167 a7 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
168 a8 Serana.esp
169 a9 R18pn - Shanoa Armour SE.esp
170 aa Ultimate Lingerie Collection.esp
171 ab SimplyKnock.esp
172 ac SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp
173 ad Trade & Barter.esp
254 FE 13 Trade and Barter - LotD Patch.esp
174 ae TelvanniRobes.esp
175 af ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
176 b0 Men of Winter - Compatibility Patch.esp
177 b1 Notice Board MCM.esp
178 b2 Thunderchild - Wyrmstooth Compatibility Patch.esp
179 b3 Toccata as Elisif.esp
180 b4 Vigilant Voiced.esp
181 b5 1nivWICCloaks.esp
182 b6 WetandCold.esp
183 b7 Valerica.esp
184 b8 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
254 FE 14 Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
185 b9 Witch Of The Wild.esp
186 ba SOSRaceMenu.esp
187 bb Obsidian Weathers for Vigilant.esp
254 FE 15 FacegenForKids.esp
188 bc AddItemMenuSE.esp
189 bd SabreFurBag.esp
190 be RaceMenu.esp
191 bf XPMSE.esp
192 c0 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
193 c1 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
194 c2 VWA_VanillaWarpaintsAbsolution.esp
195 c3 R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp
196 c4 BVandRoyalBloodline_Patch.esp
254 FE 16 3D_FacegenForKids.esp
254 FE 17 BR_FacegenForKids.esp
254 FE 18 BSB_FacegenForKids.esp
254 FE 19 CRF_FacegenForKids.esp
254 FE 1a DBM_FacegenForKids.esp
254 FE 1b FC_FacegenForKids.esp
254 FE 1c FS_FacegenForKids.esp
254 FE 1d HR_FacegenForKids.esp
254 FE 1e IncNPC_FacegenForKids.esp
254 FE 1f MAS_FacegenForKids.esp
254 FE 20 WT_FacegenForKids.esp
197 c5 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
198 c6 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
199 c7 World Encounter Addon Patches Merged.esp
254 FE 21 CACO_Falskaar_Patch.esp
254 FE 22 Qw_CACO_3DNPC Patch.esp
254 FE 23 CACO_Moonpath_Patch.esp
254 FE 24 CACO_GrayCowl_Patch.esp
254 FE 25 Inigo_CACO_Patch.esp
254 FE 26 Qw_CACO_AOS Patch.esp
254 FE 27 Qw_CACO_ArsMetallica Patch.esp
254 FE 28 CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp
200 c8 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
201 c9 DeadlyCombat_Ordinator_Patch.esp
202 ca HUD and Map Overhaul.esp
203 cb Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
204 cc Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
254 FE 29 CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp
254 FE 2a Qw_Ordinator_AOS Patch.esp
205 cd Economy Overhaul Patches Merged.esp
206 ce Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
207 cf Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
208 d0 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
209 d1 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
210 d2 TheChoiceIsYours.esp
211 d3 LOTD Patches Merged.esp
212 d4 CWI Patches Merged.esp
213 d5 The Brotherhood of Old.esp
214 d6 Convenient Horses.esp
215 d7 Bijin AIO.esp
216 d8 CH GrayFox_Bruma_BeyondReach_Falskaar_Vigilant_Wyrm Patch.esp
217 d9 EFFDialogue.esp
218 da IW_Bijin_Patch.esp
219 db Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
220 dc RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
254 FE 2b Qw_BeyondReach_RDO Patch.esp
254 FE 2c Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp
254 FE 2d Qw_BijinAIO_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
254 FE 2e Qw_CACO_RDO Patch.esp
254 FE 2f Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
221 dd RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
222 de TBoO & SS Patch.esp
223 df Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
224 e0 Wildcat-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
225 e1 Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
254 FE 30 PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp
254 FE 31 PCE - RDO Patch.esp
254 FE 32 PCE - Skyrim Sewers Patch.esp
254 FE 33 PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp
254 FE 34 PCE - ELFX PATCH.esp
254 FE 35 PCE - 3DNPC Patch.esp
226 e2 PCE - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp
227 e3 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
228 e4 Even Better Quest Objectives Merged Patch.esp
229 e5 notice board - better solstheim quests.esp
230 e6 DBM_RelicHunter.esp
231 e7 Landscape Fixes For Grass Merged Patches.esp
254 FE 36 PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp
232 e8 ELFXEnhancer.esp
233 e9 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
254 FE 37 PCE - ELFXEnhancer Patch.esp
234 ea RealisticWaterTwo - Merged.esp
235 eb Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

[raidislamy]

since i use skyrim se, i seldom to ILS. from my observation yours mod is too much with heavy script. untick some of your mod.

[jjb54]

You have a lot of SCRIPT HEAVY mods, which was already noted.

 

Plus - I see some mods that seem to duplicate " conditions " - Armor - Faces - NPC Changes and such. Did you make 100% sure that your mods are compatible with each other?

 

Recently, 1 post a good few weeks ago, had multiple armor changes, multiple NPC changes and so on. Sure enough, they had no small compatibility issue that caused LOAD Errors, CTD when the game did load and so on.

 

The thing to check on your mods is NOT just the Description page, but go to the Mod Forum Posts and Bugs and read carefully. Sometimes you see posts and such that " ring a bell ".

[BlueGunk]

Out of curiosity, is your HDT-SMP / SKSE set up correct and up to date? And I'm also curious what c CBBE.esp is. The current CBBE is an ESL.

Have you yourself changed any mods to ESL or ESL space? If you did - did you first run them through SSEEdit to see what kind of change you could make? Some may fit ESL space, some require full Creation Kit processing, some will not be suitable for changing.

 

It does look a heavy load order. Usually the rule is to keep down the mods that affect lots of cells, navmeshes and inventory changes because combining these loads the game a lot. Adding lots of NPCs, making perk changes, lots of cell changes, overloads the game, especially with scripting thrown in.

What's your string count in your save game?

 

Just some thoughts.

[argininesy]

I'm kind of parroting what the others in this thread have already said, but check that all of your mods are fully updated. I had ILS issues for a while until I found out that one of the version-dependent mods I use (SSE Fixes) was outdated. Fixing that resolved my problem. Have your mod manager check for mod updates, and then check the nexus pages of any mods that aren't associated with .esp's (like FNIS, SSE Fixes, SKSE inis, etc.).

[Deleted58783396User]

i am going to assume it is Verdant that is causing the occasional ILS, simply because it is resource intensive, i also had ILS, however upon removing said mod, as well as Skyrim flora overhaul trees, the ILS has disappeared.

 

grass overhaul mods and mods that add many trees will be very performance intensive (especially if they are setup to cast shadows), which will in turn greatly increase loading times, which in itself can cause ILS, based on insufficient memory, these types of mods are very memory hungry.

 

throw in ENBs on top of that, and you will very likely run into loading issues

 

best thing to do is get rid of Verdant, and get a more performance friendly alternative.