Dawnguard Vampire Attacks = Game Killer?

[SFBryan18]

There are a lot of things that break the stock version. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. That's what mods are for.

[sinnerman69]

I just had a attack at the stables outside Riften and the carriage driver disappeared and a vampire was trying to kill his horse before I put her out of her misery with a dagger!..

 

there are five carriage drivers and I made a setessential text bat for them for my next game

 

these are the base id's below to set carriage drivers essential

 

setessential 0003F21E 1

setessential 0009B7A6 1

setessential 00013669 1

setessential 0009B7AB 1

setessential 0009B7AA 1

 

here's a link to the uespwiki Merchants there are probably about a hundred or more merchant ids to look up, may take the time to find out, owe dawn and then there's the mine owners and farmers to worry about :wallbash:

Edited August 8, 2012 by sinnerman69

[MrTUN3R]

Worst DLC ever, for any game.

[SFBryan18]

Couldn't be worse than Call of Duty.

[sinnerman69]

here's all the town and hold guard base ids set as example setessential 012345 1 below in the spoiler tag is every guard set essential, I didn't do a example setessential 012345 0 version

 

Got the base ids from this thread Extensive NPC Base ID List see list in spoiler tags below

 

 

I'd be careful with these codes during the first dragon encounter, two whiterun guards are eaten by a dragon and during farnsworth conspiracy quest

 

 

setessential 2D794 1

setessential 2D795 1

setessential 874FB 1

setessential 874FC 1

setessential 874FD 1

setessential 874FE 1

setessential 8757D 1

setessential 10908D 1

setessential EC6E7 1

setessential F684E 1

setessential 10107B 1

setessential 103962 1

setessential 105CA3 1

setessential 105CA9 1

setessential 210CE 1

setessential 36F05 1

setessential 537F2 1

setessential 558FD 1

setessential 5CF3F 1

setessential 87137 1

setessential 8713A 1

setessential 8B319 1

setessential 9E47F 1

setessential AC9CA 1

setessential FDA37 1

setessential FDA39 1

setessential FDA3B 1

setessential FDA3D 1

setessential 604F4 1

setessential 604FE 1

setessential 604FF 1

setessential 60500 1

setessential 109AAC 1

setessential 300A4 1

setessential 458F4 1

setessential 45882 1

setessential 45899 1

setessential 4589C 1

setessential 4589D 1

setessential 4589E 1

setessential 4589F 1

setessential 458A0 1

setessential 458A1 1

setessential 458A2 1

setessential 458A3 1

setessential 458A4 1

setessential 458A5 1

setessential 458A6 1

setessential 458A7 1

setessential 458A8 1

setessential 458A9 1

setessential 458AB 1

setessential 458AD 1

setessential 458AE 1

setessential 458AF 1

setessential 458B0 1

setessential 458B1 1

setessential 458B2 1

setessential 458B3 1

setessential 458B5 1

setessential 458B7 1

setessential 458B8 1

setessential 7494C 1

setessential A8CA4 1

setessential A8CA6 1

setessential E66F6 1

setessential E66F7 1

setessential E66F8 1

setessential F1AA6 1

setessential F62F0 1

setessential 10D156 1

setessential 10D157 1

setessential 10DE20 1

setessential 2E1F0 1

setessential 6B340 1

setessential 853C4 1

setessential A9621 1

setessential B0E8A 1

setessential B3E4F 1

setessential B4C4F 1

setessential B4C55 1

setessential BED96 1

setessential F684E 1

setessential FF7E3 1

setessential 1007F5 1

setessential 1007FA 1

setessential 1020A4 1

setessential 10C068 1

setessential 267EE 1

setessential 274AB 1

setessential 274AC 1

setessential 274AD 1

setessential 39FD7 1

setessential 46EFC 1

setessential 590DE 1

setessential 63F35 1

setessential D2ACC 1

setessential D314C 1

setessential D314F 1

setessential D3154 1

setessential D3159 1

setessential D315D 1

setessential D3BCB 1

setessential 99CE5 1

setessential 9CB5B 1

setessential A27CC 1

setessential A4A3B 1

setessential ABE18 1

setessential B799D 1

setessential BC071 1

setessential BD05C 1

setessential D0FFA 1

setessential D1985 1

setessential D2AC9 1

setessential D3152 1

setessential D315C 1

setessential D3BCA 1

setessential D7779 1

setessential D8C50 1

setessential D8C53 1

setessential D8F09 1

setessential 3EF2C 1

setessential 45C31 1

setessential 55A2B 1

setessential D3C2A 1

setessential FCE80 1

setessential FCE89 1

setessential FCE8A 1

setessential FCE8B 1

setessential FCE8C 1

setessential 24B63 1

setessential FCEEB 1

setessential FCEEC 1

setessential FCEED 1

 

Edited August 8, 2012 by sinnerman69

[sinnerman69]

here's all the Merchants base ids set as example setessential 012345 1 below in the spoiler tag is every Merchant set essential, I didn't do a example setessential 012345 0 version

 

 

I didn't include the cook in Markarth keep, he's supposed to die in a dark brotherhood quest

 

 

Got the base ids from uespwiki see list in spoiler tags below

 

 

setessential 0001413E 1

setessential 00014140 1

setessential 0001412A 1

setessential 0001411F 1

setessential 00014123 1

setessential 00014148 1

setessential 00014142 1

setessential 0001413A 1

setessential 00014146 1

setessential 0001B076 1

setessential 0001B079 1

setessential 00013662 1

setessential 0001D4B7 1

setessential 00013652 1

setessential 00013650 1

setessential 00013655 1

setessential 0003A19A 1

setessential 00013255 1

setessential 00013260 1

setessential 00013261 1

setessential 00013266 1

setessential 0001326F 1

setessential 00013273 1

setessential 00013275 1

setessential 00013284 1

setessential 0001328C 1

setessential 0001329A 1

setessential 000132AA 1

setessential 00019A28 1

setessential 000135E9 1

setessential 000135ED 1

setessential 000135EF 1

setessential 00013614 1

setessential 00013621 1

setessential 0001361D 1

setessential 0001361E 1

setessential 00013627 1

setessential 0001338B 1

setessential 0001338E 1

setessential 000133A3 1

setessential 00013395 1

setessential 0001339A 1

setessential 000284AC 1

setessential 000133A2 1

setessential 000133A5 1

setessential 00055A5E 1

setessential 00013B7C 1

setessential 00013B77 1

setessential 00013B7A 1

setessential 00019953 1

setessential 00019957 1

setessential 00029DAD 1

setessential 0001334C 1

setessential 0001334D 1

setessential 0001334F 1

setessential 00013380 1

setessential 00013357 1

setessential 00013360 1

setessential 00019DF2 1

setessential 00013354 1

setessential 0001336D 1

setessential 000136C5 1

setessential 00029DAE 1

setessential 0001337E 1

setessential 00013365 1

setessential 00013373 1

setessential 0001B072 1

setessential 00013369 1

setessential 00029DAA 1

setessential 000B8827 1

setessential 00029DAF 1

setessential 00019DEF 1

setessential 00019E18 1

setessential 000136C3 1

setessential 000136BB 1

setessential 00013475 1

setessential 00013479 1

setessential 0001347A 1

setessential 0001347B 1

setessential 00013BB9 1

setessential 00013B97 1

setessential 00013BA4 1

setessential 00013BA1 1

setessential 00013B99 1

setessential 00013B9E 1

setessential 00013B9D 1

setessential 00013BBB 1

setessential 00013B9C 1

setessential 00013BA2 1

setessential 00013BA3 1

setessential 0002BA8E 1

setessential 0002BA8C 1

setessential 000136B6 1

setessential 0001C187 1

setessential 0001C183 1

setessential 0001C184 1

setessential 0001E7D5 1

setessential 0001C198 1

setessential 0001C19C 1

setessential 0001C197 1

setessential 0001C199 1

setessential 0001C19E 1

setessential 0001C193 1

setessential 0001B1D6 1

setessential 0001B1DA 1

setessential 0001B1D1 1

setessential 0001B1D5 1

setessential 0001B1DB 1

setessential 0001B1D0 1

setessential 00016973 1

setessential 00016ACE 1

setessential 00073FBE 1

setessential 000B5D5A 1

setessential 0001414B 1

setessential 0001414C 1

setessential 0001412D 1

setessential 00013283 1

setessential 000132AE 1

setessential 000132AB 1

setessential 0001328E 1

setessential 0001361A 1

setessential 0001361F 1

setessential 0001406B 1

setessential 00013398 1

setessential 0001402D 1

setessential 000133A1 1

setessential 00013B76 1

 

Edited August 8, 2012 by sinnerman69

[Sky999]

I think the main criticism of this, is that many players simply don't want to have to be on 'Watch Duty' every single time they enter a hold or walk in the vicinity of a village. I don't want to have to double check every single village/house I go to just to make sure that everyone is alright and there's no vampires lurking around... :confused:

[sinnerman69]

I just had another attack inside whiterun's front gates, I forgot one merchants ID Ulfberth War-Bear died in the vampire attack and I had to resurrect him, here's Ulfberth War-Bear id setessential 00013B9F 1

 

Owe the five whiterun guards at the front gate survived because I had set them essential from that list earlier on I posted here, those guards where on there way to help me fight the first dragon, that's why so many guards there in one place!..

[Stemin]

Worst DLC ever, for any game.

 

Actually, the DLC is a lot of fun. I had 25 hours into it and that didn't include checking out the new dwarven area, getting all the books for ulrag (or whatever his name is), checking out the vampire or werewolf perks, or even trying the Vampire quest line (I did the dawnguard).

 

Just as the other poster said, I don't want to be on watch every time I enter a town and I don't want my towns to become ghost towns like Creepypasta.

 

The DLC has a lot of bugs in it, but they seem to be minor ones. I know I see a lot of people complaining about it, but this is Nexus. There's very few people on here who aren't loaded down with mods. Bethesda shouldn't be held accountable for that.

[Flamdring]

No, Stemin, I am another one who says that I do not see how stock game can be so imbalanced as to cause weak NPCs to murder most city dwellers. Yes, they might be lucky and kill an occasional NPC who can give you a minor quest, but then this is how this game is supposed to be. I fully agree with the others who said that it is impossible for the game to kill somebody unless you are in the same cell. It might be hard to avoid such attacks, but this is what game difficulty (change it to lower?) settings as well as various mods are for.

 

In the past, dragon attacks on various settlements could cause some troubles, but never to an extent where they would decimate entire city populations, and I am certain that dragons are noticeably more powerful than vampires in stock game.

 

Unless your game is gimped to hell due to a sequence of some bizarre events, I believe you should either take a different approach to handling vampires' appearances in various towns or install some mods which will rebalance your current situation. Nothing prevents you from disabling or completely uninstalling them later on.

Edited August 8, 2012 by Flamdring