SFBryan18 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 There are a lot of things that break the stock version. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. That's what mods are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinnerman69 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) I just had a attack at the stables outside Riften and the carriage driver disappeared and a vampire was trying to kill his horse before I put her out of her misery with a dagger!.. there are five carriage drivers and I made a setessential text bat for them for my next game these are the base id's below to set carriage drivers essential setessential 0003F21E 1setessential 0009B7A6 1setessential 00013669 1setessential 0009B7AB 1setessential 0009B7AA 1 here's a link to the uespwiki Merchants there are probably about a hundred or more merchant ids to look up, may take the time to find out, owe dawn and then there's the mine owners and farmers to worry about :wallbash: Edited August 8, 2012 by sinnerman69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTUN3R Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Worst DLC ever, for any game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFBryan18 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Couldn't be worse than Call of Duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinnerman69 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) here's all the town and hold guard base ids set as example setessential 012345 1 below in the spoiler tag is every guard set essential, I didn't do a example setessential 012345 0 version Got the base ids from this thread Extensive NPC Base ID List see list in spoiler tags below I'd be careful with these codes during the first dragon encounter, two whiterun guards are eaten by a dragon and during farnsworth conspiracy quest Reveal hidden contents setessential 2D794 1setessential 2D795 1setessential 874FB 1setessential 874FC 1setessential 874FD 1setessential 874FE 1setessential 8757D 1setessential 10908D 1setessential EC6E7 1setessential F684E 1setessential 10107B 1setessential 103962 1setessential 105CA3 1setessential 105CA9 1setessential 210CE 1setessential 36F05 1setessential 537F2 1setessential 558FD 1setessential 5CF3F 1setessential 87137 1setessential 8713A 1setessential 8B319 1setessential 9E47F 1setessential AC9CA 1setessential FDA37 1setessential FDA39 1setessential FDA3B 1setessential FDA3D 1setessential 604F4 1setessential 604FE 1setessential 604FF 1setessential 60500 1setessential 109AAC 1setessential 300A4 1setessential 458F4 1setessential 45882 1setessential 45899 1setessential 4589C 1setessential 4589D 1setessential 4589E 1setessential 4589F 1setessential 458A0 1setessential 458A1 1setessential 458A2 1setessential 458A3 1setessential 458A4 1setessential 458A5 1setessential 458A6 1setessential 458A7 1setessential 458A8 1setessential 458A9 1setessential 458AB 1setessential 458AD 1setessential 458AE 1setessential 458AF 1setessential 458B0 1setessential 458B1 1setessential 458B2 1setessential 458B3 1setessential 458B5 1setessential 458B7 1setessential 458B8 1setessential 7494C 1setessential A8CA4 1setessential A8CA6 1setessential E66F6 1setessential E66F7 1setessential E66F8 1setessential F1AA6 1setessential F62F0 1setessential 10D156 1setessential 10D157 1setessential 10DE20 1setessential 2E1F0 1setessential 6B340 1setessential 853C4 1setessential A9621 1setessential B0E8A 1setessential B3E4F 1setessential B4C4F 1setessential B4C55 1setessential BED96 1setessential F684E 1setessential FF7E3 1setessential 1007F5 1setessential 1007FA 1setessential 1020A4 1setessential 10C068 1setessential 267EE 1setessential 274AB 1setessential 274AC 1setessential 274AD 1setessential 39FD7 1setessential 46EFC 1setessential 590DE 1setessential 63F35 1setessential D2ACC 1setessential D314C 1setessential D314F 1setessential D3154 1setessential D3159 1setessential D315D 1setessential D3BCB 1setessential 99CE5 1setessential 9CB5B 1setessential A27CC 1setessential A4A3B 1setessential ABE18 1setessential B799D 1setessential BC071 1setessential BD05C 1setessential D0FFA 1setessential D1985 1setessential D2AC9 1setessential D3152 1setessential D315C 1setessential D3BCA 1setessential D7779 1setessential D8C50 1setessential D8C53 1setessential D8F09 1setessential 3EF2C 1setessential 45C31 1setessential 55A2B 1setessential D3C2A 1setessential FCE80 1setessential FCE89 1setessential FCE8A 1setessential FCE8B 1setessential FCE8C 1setessential 24B63 1setessential FCEEB 1setessential FCEEC 1setessential FCEED 1 Edited August 8, 2012 by sinnerman69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinnerman69 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) here's all the Merchants base ids set as example setessential 012345 1 below in the spoiler tag is every Merchant set essential, I didn't do a example setessential 012345 0 version Reveal hidden contents I didn't include the cook in Markarth keep, he's supposed to die in a dark brotherhood quest Got the base ids from uespwiki see list in spoiler tags below Reveal hidden contents setessential 0001413E 1setessential 00014140 1setessential 0001412A 1setessential 0001411F 1setessential 00014123 1setessential 00014148 1setessential 00014142 1setessential 0001413A 1setessential 00014146 1setessential 0001B076 1setessential 0001B079 1setessential 00013662 1setessential 0001D4B7 1setessential 00013652 1setessential 00013650 1setessential 00013655 1setessential 0003A19A 1setessential 00013255 1setessential 00013260 1setessential 00013261 1setessential 00013266 1setessential 0001326F 1setessential 00013273 1setessential 00013275 1setessential 00013284 1setessential 0001328C 1setessential 0001329A 1setessential 000132AA 1setessential 00019A28 1setessential 000135E9 1setessential 000135ED 1setessential 000135EF 1setessential 00013614 1setessential 00013621 1setessential 0001361D 1setessential 0001361E 1setessential 00013627 1setessential 0001338B 1setessential 0001338E 1setessential 000133A3 1setessential 00013395 1setessential 0001339A 1setessential 000284AC 1setessential 000133A2 1setessential 000133A5 1setessential 00055A5E 1setessential 00013B7C 1setessential 00013B77 1setessential 00013B7A 1setessential 00019953 1setessential 00019957 1setessential 00029DAD 1setessential 0001334C 1setessential 0001334D 1setessential 0001334F 1setessential 00013380 1setessential 00013357 1setessential 00013360 1setessential 00019DF2 1setessential 00013354 1setessential 0001336D 1setessential 000136C5 1setessential 00029DAE 1setessential 0001337E 1setessential 00013365 1setessential 00013373 1setessential 0001B072 1setessential 00013369 1setessential 00029DAA 1setessential 000B8827 1setessential 00029DAF 1setessential 00019DEF 1setessential 00019E18 1setessential 000136C3 1setessential 000136BB 1setessential 00013475 1setessential 00013479 1setessential 0001347A 1setessential 0001347B 1setessential 00013BB9 1setessential 00013B97 1setessential 00013BA4 1setessential 00013BA1 1setessential 00013B99 1setessential 00013B9E 1setessential 00013B9D 1setessential 00013BBB 1setessential 00013B9C 1setessential 00013BA2 1setessential 00013BA3 1setessential 0002BA8E 1setessential 0002BA8C 1setessential 000136B6 1setessential 0001C187 1setessential 0001C183 1setessential 0001C184 1setessential 0001E7D5 1setessential 0001C198 1setessential 0001C19C 1setessential 0001C197 1setessential 0001C199 1setessential 0001C19E 1setessential 0001C193 1setessential 0001B1D6 1setessential 0001B1DA 1setessential 0001B1D1 1setessential 0001B1D5 1setessential 0001B1DB 1setessential 0001B1D0 1setessential 00016973 1setessential 00016ACE 1setessential 00073FBE 1setessential 000B5D5A 1setessential 0001414B 1setessential 0001414C 1setessential 0001412D 1setessential 00013283 1setessential 000132AE 1setessential 000132AB 1setessential 0001328E 1setessential 0001361A 1setessential 0001361F 1setessential 0001406B 1setessential 00013398 1setessential 0001402D 1setessential 000133A1 1setessential 00013B76 1 Edited August 8, 2012 by sinnerman69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky999 Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 I think the main criticism of this, is that many players simply don't want to have to be on 'Watch Duty' every single time they enter a hold or walk in the vicinity of a village. I don't want to have to double check every single village/house I go to just to make sure that everyone is alright and there's no vampires lurking around... :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinnerman69 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I just had another attack inside whiterun's front gates, I forgot one merchants ID Ulfberth War-Bear died in the vampire attack and I had to resurrect him, here's Ulfberth War-Bear id setessential 00013B9F 1 Owe the five whiterun guards at the front gate survived because I had set them essential from that list earlier on I posted here, those guards where on there way to help me fight the first dragon, that's why so many guards there in one place!.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stemin Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 On 8/8/2012 at 9:26 AM, MrTUN3R said: Worst DLC ever, for any game. Actually, the DLC is a lot of fun. I had 25 hours into it and that didn't include checking out the new dwarven area, getting all the books for ulrag (or whatever his name is), checking out the vampire or werewolf perks, or even trying the Vampire quest line (I did the dawnguard). Just as the other poster said, I don't want to be on watch every time I enter a town and I don't want my towns to become ghost towns like Creepypasta. The DLC has a lot of bugs in it, but they seem to be minor ones. I know I see a lot of people complaining about it, but this is Nexus. There's very few people on here who aren't loaded down with mods. Bethesda shouldn't be held accountable for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamdring Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) No, Stemin, I am another one who says that I do not see how stock game can be so imbalanced as to cause weak NPCs to murder most city dwellers. Yes, they might be lucky and kill an occasional NPC who can give you a minor quest, but then this is how this game is supposed to be. I fully agree with the others who said that it is impossible for the game to kill somebody unless you are in the same cell. It might be hard to avoid such attacks, but this is what game difficulty (change it to lower?) settings as well as various mods are for. In the past, dragon attacks on various settlements could cause some troubles, but never to an extent where they would decimate entire city populations, and I am certain that dragons are noticeably more powerful than vampires in stock game. Unless your game is gimped to hell due to a sequence of some bizarre events, I believe you should either take a different approach to handling vampires' appearances in various towns or install some mods which will rebalance your current situation. Nothing prevents you from disabling or completely uninstalling them later on. Edited August 8, 2012 by Flamdring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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