sonicp Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 If you let elewen observe the peace council, ulfric almost slipped that its the thalmor ordered him to kill toryg who knows he tried to neg with the empire that if he reclaim reach Talos worship in sky rim is okay. Maybe thalmor offered ulfric the deal if he kills toryg but empire will not let this slide. And he succeed he can worship Talos again, just another thalmor plot to destroy empire and make ulfric high king their asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroGamerNinja Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Neither side. Why? It's obvious that no matter what you will do, the Thalmor will win. And I'm sure that the Elder Scrolls series, chronologically, will end with Skyrim, with TESO being a prequel and what not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Neither side. Why? It's obvious that no matter what you will do, the Thalmor will win. And I'm sure that the Elder Scrolls series, chronologically, will end with Skyrim, with TESO being a prequel and what not. Totally inaccurate. We've been told by Bethesda on 3 separate occasions that the franchise will continue, and they are are plans for more single-player TES titles. We have also been told by Howard that TES:O will have no impact on the development of future single player games. There is absolutely zero evidence to argue against their statements. Edited January 24, 2014 by Lachdonin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroGamerNinja Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Neither side. Why? It's obvious that no matter what you will do, the Thalmor will win. And I'm sure that the Elder Scrolls series, chronologically, will end with Skyrim, with TESO being a prequel and what not. Totally inaccurate. We've been told by Bethesda on 3 separate occasions that the franchise will continue, and they are are plans for more single-player TES titles. We have also been told by Howard that TES:O will have no impact on the development of future single player games. There is absolutely zero evidence to argue against their statements. And then there's Warcraft who jumped from being a RTS game to a MMORPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsHdRoN Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Thalmor...The battle of mor and men.!!the elves would definately win the war. Why? Cause they're working together asa nation.if nords, imperials and bretons start to do so they could fight them off or atleast they have a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Neither side. Why? It's obvious that no matter what you will do, the Thalmor will win. And I'm sure that the Elder Scrolls series, chronologically, will end with Skyrim, with TESO being a prequel and what not. Totally inaccurate. We've been told by Bethesda on 3 separate occasions that the franchise will continue, and they are are plans for more single-player TES titles. We have also been told by Howard that TES:O will have no impact on the development of future single player games. There is absolutely zero evidence to argue against their statements. And then there's Warcraft who jumped from being a RTS game to a MMORPG. Uh... Relevance? Blizzard never made any statements saying Warcraft would always be an RTS. It never denied that WoW would be the continuation of the franchise, nor has it stated that there will never be another Warcraft RTS. You're comparing a situation where no statements have been made, to one in which we have been told things will not change, and claiming that the former indicates the path the latter will take. Again, there is zero evidence to support that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrimmodsforme123 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 i don't care realy, all i want is to fight with the thalmor and make a cure to make them normal so they arnt gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) i don't care realy, all i want is to fight with the thalmor and make a cure to make them normal so they arnt gross. What do you mean by gross? Do you mean "Not Tolkien Elves"? If so... Actually, you'll probably get a lot of support here... people seemed to be rather devastated by the change... Go over to the Bethesda forums, though, and they'd bite your head off for trying to turn Mer into pretty-fantasy-elves. Plus... Fight them all you want. They will win in the end. Edited February 1, 2014 by Lachdonin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimlordXVII Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I see Many battles, Ulfric Stormcloak being killed and Tulius not being mentioned because the was is viewed as Ulfric vs The Empire, not Tulius. Ulfric manages to take and lose many cities throughout the war, but is ultimately killed. With the Emperor Assassinated by the Dark Brotherhood, the Empire struggled to maintain control of Skyrim vs the Faithful Stormcloaks. Skyrim secures it's independence diplomatically as the Empire doesn't want to have to watch it's Northern Border so heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riprock Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Everyone assumes that the aldmeri will do this or that, becasue the Empire is weakened fighting the civil war, or has been defeated in the civil war. There is no motivator like a common enemy. The assumption that a liberated Skyrim will simply continue to fight the Empire. But the goal was a liberated Skyrim, not destruction of the Empire. Then the arguments are that the Thalmor pulled strings re: Ulfric, so that a liberated Skyrim helps the Thalmor. While that is their hope, why is this a given? In every real war, the hopes and plans of real rivals do not pan out. A great example is the Soviet Union and nazi germany. They had a non-aggression pact too, and for the students of History out there, the USA was actually involved in a bloody, fighting series of battles during and immediately after WWI, in the Soviet Union, against the Communists. But who was a great ally to the USA in WWII? The Soviet Union! And in another nation ripe for Communism, China, who did the USA rescue? Ho Chi Minh! The same man who became an enemy for the USA in the Vietnam conflict. Today's enemies can be tomorrow's allies, and today's friends can be bitter rivals tomorrow. So those assumptions re: the Thalmor plot are simply assumptions, left open-ended very much on purpose. The issue in TES is not just 'Stormcloaks vs' anyone. There's the other provinces, for one thing. Then there's the prospect of fighting a multiple-front war that the Aldmeri would face. Then there's the morale aspect- regardless of which side wins the civil war. Either the Empire found the strength to do weld Skyrim back into the Empire, or the Stormlcoaks demonstrate the ability to resist Thalmor (and by extension Aldmeri) meddling. neither one helps the Aldmeri. I feel that the struggle continuing is what helps the Thalmor. It diverts attention from what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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