Vortex... cloud? Question if possible or not~

[GSmog]

Instead it was "Nah, it would be way easier to just copy over my stuff", yet here we are in Day two, without you having any results, when by now, you could've already had everything installed on his system.

Actually I gave a very good reason why that suggestion isn't very good. It might take awhile, but I could do it in my sleep. Like I said, downloading mods and such might not even be possible, look back up to my in depth reply to this already for why that is. Also in case you didn't know, data transfer is much faster than download speeds, aka, look into why the DNC couldn't have been 'hacked'. Regardless, your wrong. Also, there was fourth of July the other day ya know~

 

Like I said, I don't have a usb big enough for it, not sure if my idea would even work, and I was asking for an 'easier' way to do it other than moving over the entire skyrim folder and was asking where the Vortex mods are kept if I could just use that instead. I know theres more than one place it keeps information, and I'm not super keen on how exactly Vortex works when compared to the older NMM.

 

Since I dont know the intricacies I figured the best thing I could do is ask here, on the vortex help forum, if anyone knew. Im guessing from the replies so far, the answer is nope. As far as the specific question asking if anyones transferred their skyrim to another computer, I'm also guessing nope. If I'm wrong, great. But so far it seems most people here are more interested in calling me a pirate and arguing with me for no reason instead of helping.

[HadToRegister]

 

Instead it was "Nah, it would be way easier to just copy over my stuff", yet here we are in Day two, without you having any results, when by now, you could've already had everything installed on his system.

Actually I gave a very good reason why that suggestion isn't very good. It might take awhile, but I could do it in my sleep. Like I said, downloading mods and such might not even be possible, look back up to my in depth reply to this already for why that is. Also in case you didn't know, data transfer is much faster than download speeds, aka, look into why the DNC couldn't have been 'hacked'. Regardless, your wrong. Also, there was fourth of July the other day ya know~

 

Like I said, I don't have a usb big enough for it, not sure if my idea would even work, and I was asking for an 'easier' way to do it other than moving over the entire skyrim folder and was asking where the Vortex mods are kept if I could just use that instead. I know theres more than one place it keeps information, and I'm not super keen on how exactly Vortex works when compared to the older NMM.

 

Since I dont know the intricacies I figured the best thing I could do is ask here, on the vortex help forum, if anyone knew. Im guessing from the replies so far, the answer is nope. As far as the specific question asking if anyones transferred their skyrim to another computer, I'm also guessing nope. If I'm wrong, great. But so far it seems most people here are more interested in calling me a pirate and arguing with me for no reason instead of helping.

 

 

Nobody called you anything.

 

Also, the amount of time you've wasted on this thread, and trying to figure out how to do it 'easily', could've been better spent actually downloading and installing the mods.

Instead it's going on two days now, of you trying to figure out how to 'save time' (which at this point, is of no benefit anymore, because of the days wasted) by data transfer, when you've already wasted two days trying to figure it out instead of doing it.

 

The entire point has been, you're making a small problem into a much larger and more difficult one, and instead of DOING something about it, you're insisting on doing it your way no matter what anybody else says, and the way you're going about it, has made a simple thing much much harder.

[GSmog]

Simply put, I don't think so. Like I said, its not about "saving time" so that argument itself is a waste of time, as is me trying to explain that 3+ times now, so I won't. But when you hint/accuse/speculate the intentions behind what someone is doing trying to liken it to piracy, don't be surprised when you offend a legitimate gamer, else what was the point in bringing up such speculation? If it matters, sorry for the "attitude" but considering the lack of even a half-hearted apology after explicitly stating that it was offensive, when I came here with only the best intentions, well, what do you expect? Especially when instead it was followed with an overwhelming unhelpful attitude of "this is a waste of time".

 

Regardless, since it seems further discussion is a waste of time and either people are unable or unwilling to help I'll just figure it out on my own then, which has been less eloquently suggested multiple times now. If anyone is actually willing to look into it other than remind me what a waste of time their "assistance" has been, feel free to share your own results. As I said, I-don't-currently-have-a-usb-big-enough-to-try-it-myself... so the only time I've apparently wasted is coming here to ask for help as it currently is out of the realm of my hardware limitations to do so myself. I wanted only to do some research on the subject before spending the money necessary, and yes the time to go get one, on a usb to try it with.

 

If the shoe were on the other foot, before I gave someone some advice I'd of course have tried it myself at some point first, but that's just me I guess. I don't see why any of thats so difficult to understand honestly, but instead of any help I just got a lot of rudeness it seems. So thanks I guess, but nevermind then since this seems to be the limit of anyone's experience and givafux. If I find out anything on my own I might leave some information afterwards, tho I'm not sure why I would otherwise bother considering people's reaction to the question since obviously only a pirate hacker would even consider such a thing.

 

Kupo yall~

[HadToRegister]

Simply put, I don't think so. Like I said, its not about "saving time" so that argument itself is a waste of time, as is me trying to explain that 3+ times now, so I won't. But when you hint/accuse/speculate the intentions behind what someone is doing trying to liken it to piracy, don't be surprised when you offend a legitimate gamer, else what was the point in bringing up such speculation? If it matters, sorry for the "attitude" but considering the lack of even a half-hearted apology after explicitly stating that it was offensive, when I came here with only the best intentions, well, what do you expect? Especially when instead it was followed with an overwhelming unhelpful attitude of "this is a waste of time".

 

Regardless, since it seems further discussion is a waste of time and either people are unable or unwilling to help I'll just figure it out on my own then, which has been less eloquently suggested multiple times now. If anyone is actually willing to look into it other than remind me what a waste of time their "assistance" has been, feel free to share your own results. As I said, I-don't-currently-have-a-usb-big-enough-to-try-it-myself... so the only time I've apparently wasted is coming here to ask for help as it currently is out of the realm of my hardware limitations to do so myself. I wanted only to do some research on the subject before spending the money necessary, and yes the time to go get one, on a usb to try it with.

 

If the shoe were on the other foot, before I gave someone some advice I'd of course have tried it myself at some point first, but that's just me I guess. I don't see why any of thats so difficult to understand honestly, but instead of any help I just got a lot of rudeness it seems. So thanks I guess, but nevermind then since this seems to be the limit of anyone's experience and givafux. If I find out anything on my own I might leave some information afterwards, tho I'm not sure why I would otherwise bother considering people's reaction to the question since obviously only a pirate hacker would even consider such a thing.

 

Kupo yall~

 

When you ask for advice, how to get mods you have installed on your computer onto your friend's computer, and you're told that it would actually be easier to just download and install them on his computer yourself, rather than copying your entire Skyrim install directory, and you completely AVOID and make excuses that, it isn't an option, and the only way, is for you to copy your entire Skyrim Install Directory to his computer instead, then what was the actual point of your question?

 

 

You asked a question, we gave you answers YOU DIDN'T LIKE, so you ignored them, and instead you insisted it needed to be done the way you had in mind from the very start, so there was no point to even ask.

 

So, rather than taking ANY of our advice, you instead shot down every single suggestion, and insisted that the only solution was to copy your ENTIRE SKYRIM DIRECTORY to your friend's computer, rather than just downloading and installing the mods for your friend yourself, you can see why things sounded shady.

 

 

[Rattledagger]

Where are basically 4 ways of doing this:

 

1: Re-download everything and re-install everything.

2: Copy the downloads over and re-install everything.

3: Copy downloads + mods + %appdata%\vortex + anything directly installed to game directory.

4: Copy full game directory.

 

1 is definitely the most boring and time-consuming, since even if you've got a direct link to Nexus download-page it can still take many hours of downloading all the mods. It's also very easy to make a mistake, some mods can have been permanently removed from Nexus while some mods isn't available on Nexus and can also be difficult to download. In addition you'll need to re-create all rules etc.

 

2 is much faster than 1 since you don't need to do the very slow re-downloading of everything. Re-installing everything is also fairly fast, but you do need to remember all the FOMOD installer choices. You'll also need to re-create all rules etc.

 

3 is the largest amount of files to copy, but apart for transferring of the files you'll only need a couple minutes of configuration to be up and playing. Since you transfer "everything", you'll have a fully moddable setup there you can easily disable some of the mods if don't like them, and add new mods on top.

 

4 is somewhere in the middle between 2 and 3 then it comes to amount of files that needs to be transferred. Since you transfers the full Skyrim-directory after transfer finished you'll be ready to play the game, meaning time-wise this is the fastest option. The big disadvantage here is it's nearly impossible to disable a mod, except if mod only comes as esp + bsa, and adding more mods isn't a good idea either.

 

To me 3 is the best, since this gives a fully moddable setup where it's easy to remove or add more mods and it's also an excellent starting-point if wants to mod more. Alternatively 4 can be used, in case you expect the modden game will only be used for a single play-through where no mods will be removed or added and don't expect will do any more modding in the future.

 

The only major weakness with 3 is, downloads + mods must be located at exactly the same place on both computers. This can be a problem if you've example got mods on E while the other computer only has a C. The game itself doesn't need to be at the same location. In case game isn't on the same partition you'll also need to either move the game or the mods folder, but this can be done in either Steam or Vortex so isn't a big problem (apart for using longer time).

 

As for the actual transfer of the files, as long as you've already got an USB, even if this USB isn't large enough to copy everything over in a single instance, by using 7-zip you can easily create archives with a specific size. Example a quick test revealed it took me roughly 7 minutes to create 44 pieces each of 1000 MB in size out of my Skyrim mods-directory. If you've example have got a 16 GB USB this means you can transfer these roughly 43 GB of mods by making 3 trips to the other computer. Note, in this test I used the option to "store" the files, meaning I didn't waste some hours trying to compress the mostly uncompressible bsa-archives etc.

[GSmog]

Where are basically 4 ways of doing this:

 

1: Re-download everything and re-install everything.

2: Copy the downloads over and re-install everything.

3: Copy downloads + mods + %appdata%\vortex + anything directly installed to game directory.

4: Copy full game directory.

 

 

 

1 is definitely the most boring and time-consuming, since even if you've got a direct link to Nexus download-page it can still take many hours of downloading all the mods. It's also very easy to make a mistake, some mods can have been permanently removed from Nexus while some mods isn't available on Nexus and can also be difficult to download. In addition you'll need to re-create all rules etc.

 

2 is much faster than 1 since you don't need to do the very slow re-downloading of everything. Re-installing everything is also fairly fast, but you do need to remember all the FOMOD installer choices. You'll also need to re-create all rules etc.

 

3 is the largest amount of files to copy, but apart for transferring of the files you'll only need a couple minutes of configuration to be up and playing. Since you transfer "everything", you'll have a fully moddable setup there you can easily disable some of the mods if don't like them, and add new mods on top.

 

4 is somewhere in the middle between 2 and 3 then it comes to amount of files that needs to be transferred. Since you transfers the full Skyrim-directory after transfer finished you'll be ready to play the game, meaning time-wise this is the fastest option. The big disadvantage here is it's nearly impossible to disable a mod, except if mod only comes as esp + bsa, and adding more mods isn't a good idea either.

 

To me 3 is the best, since this gives a fully moddable setup where it's easy to remove or add more mods and it's also an excellent starting-point if wants to mod more. Alternatively 4 can be used, in case you expect the modern game will only be used for a single play-through where no mods will be removed or added and don't expect will do any more modding in the future.

 

The only major weakness with 3 is, downloads + mods must be located at exactly the same place on both computers. This can be a problem if you've example got mods on E while the other computer only has a C. The game itself doesn't need to be at the same location. In case game isn't on the same partition you'll also need to either move the game or the mods folder, but this can be done in either Steam or Vortex so isn't a big problem (apart for using longer time).

 

As for the actual transfer of the files, as long as you've already got an USB, even if this USB isn't large enough to copy everything over in a single instance, by using 7-zip you can easily create archives with a specific size. Example a quick test revealed it took me roughly 7 minutes to create 44 pieces each of 1000 MB in size out of my Skyrim mods-directory. If you've example have got a 16 GB USB this means you can transfer these roughly 43 GB of mods by making 3 trips to the other computer. Note, in this test I used the option to "store" the files, meaning I didn't waste some hours trying to compress the mostly uncompressible bsa-archives etc.

 

 

Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate the information. I'd pretty much given up getting any help here so we was just going to try getting a big usb on the first. But good point about breaking it up in pieces and keeping it uncompressed, shouldnt need to get a new one if space isnt a big issue. I'd actually considered that I just worried about them putting it in the wrong place. I guess I could just do it for them, it'd just be simpler to give it to em and say "here, put this in your Skyrim directory" and I guess I was focused too much on KISS.

 

I guess I understand the point between 3 and 4. Its probably not an issue since they've never modded before and I was just going to give them a copy of my modded game but I'll keep that in mind. My main worry tho is if their skyrim is a slightly newer version which might screw up all the mods again~ which means I'll have to transfer the skyrim files too instead of having them download it from steam and thats more to send. Ill have to check their skyrim version to see if its the same or if its been updated again since I did last time... I had to disable skyrim updates on my steam and I don't think they know how to do it.

 

But yea, again, Im not sure of 3 since they have less drives than me (C and D) while my games are on G >.> But thanks again, kupo <3