Tragthemercenary Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Greetings! When Vortex came out, I was hesitant to use it. But I downloaded it, eventually, and it worked like a charm. With over 500 hours of gameplay without a single hitch, including CTD's, on a high-end machine, and a constant frame rate of 60fps, this was Skyrim SE the way I imagined it would be. Then, I had a crash. After that, I couldn't even get the game to load. I uninstalled my 245 mods, unistalled and re-installed the game, and it was working fine, until I started loading mods. Then, I started getting CTD's, on a regular basis ... every 15-20 seconds. I've done the usual, including unistalling mods and re-installing them, to see which might be causing a problem. Nothing works. Follows my load order, and it's not very much: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ApachiiHair.esm 7 7 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 8 8 Immersive Wenches.esp 9 9 Cutting Room Floor.esp 10 a Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 11 b Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 12 c SkyUI_SE.esp 13 d 50 More Perk Points.esp 14 e Medieval Lanterns of Skyrim.esp 15 f RiversideLodge.esp 16 10 Convenient Horses.esp 17 11 ACE BYOG.esp 18 12 Immersive Weapons.esp 19 13 Bijin AIO.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Bijin Wives.esp 20 14 FNIS.esp 21 15 FNISSexyMove.esp 22 16 FNISspells.esp 23 17 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 24 18 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp 25 19 RaceMenu.esp 26 1a RaceMenuPlugin.esp 27 1b SGEyebrows.esp 28 1c ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp 29 1d Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp 30 1e Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp 31 1f Unique Uniques.esp 32 20 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 33 21 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Note that I use LOOT. Has something changed in the Vortex, that started this? I feel like I'm in the bad ole days of NMM. I'm not a computer expert ... by any means. I'm just looking for a possible cause, even as simple as a combination of mods, that is causing this problem. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmm200 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Don't use Loot. It is built into Vortex and does the sorting for you.Never once do you mention starting a new game. Are these CTDs on old saves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 The crash you had, was it your entire system, or just the game?With a load order that small you should be having no problemsOh one thing, I see Racemenu in your load order, but not XP32 Maximum Skeleton anywhere, FNIS requires it, and Racemenu likes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 -ALSO-Since you're using SkyUI, do yourself a favor and save your sanity, by downloading and installing the Flashing Savegames FixIt stops that annoying THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP on the Loading and Saving screen, after you accumulate a dozen or more savegames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragthemercenary Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 Don't use Loot. It is built into Vortex and does the sorting for you.Never once do you mention starting a new game. Are these CTDs on old saves? I've seen the sort function, but didn't ever think that it did LOOT's work. I appreciate that information. Does Vortex indicate dirty edits? If if doesn't, how often should I check it, using SSEdit? These attempts were all on a new game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragthemercenary Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 The crash you had, was it your entire system, or just the game? With a load order that small you should be having no problems Oh one thing, I see Racemenu in your load order, but not XP32 Maximum Skeleton anywhere, FNIS requires it, and Racemenu likes it. I thought that my load order was incredibly small to be having these problems. After all these years with Skyrim, and then with Special Edition, and I forget to add XP32. Also, I will try that Flashing Savegames Fix, but I usually have five savegames, and one quicksave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblivionfan52 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 The crash you had, was it your entire system, or just the game? With a load order that small you should be having no problems Oh one thing, I see Racemenu in your load order, but not XP32 Maximum Skeleton anywhere, FNIS requires it, and Racemenu likes it. I thought that my load order was incredibly small to be having these problems. After all these years with Skyrim, and then with Special Edition, and I forget to add XP32. Also, I will try that Flashing Savegames Fix, but I usually have five savegames, and one quicksave. If you hold to only five saves at a time then you shouldn't need the flashing save game fix, as HadToRegister noted it's generally only needed for ten saves and above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Don't use Loot. It is built into Vortex and does the sorting for you.Never once do you mention starting a new game. Are these CTDs on old saves? I've seen the sort function, but didn't ever think that it did LOOT's work. I appreciate that information. Does Vortex indicate dirty edits? If if doesn't, how often should I check it, using SSEdit? These attempts were all on a new game. Vortex will indicate Dirty Edits, Vortex can also convert any Convertable "Light" Esps, to ESPfes, (Another type of ESL, but Sortable) so they won't take up any room in your load orderMy SSE load order has 279 mods thanks to that feature Vortex will show "Verified Clean" with a Water Drop Icon, and a "Requires Cleaning" with a spray bottle icon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Double Click a plugin on the plugin tab, to open the right panelNote the Spray Bottle, showing the plugin Needs Cleaning, also note the LOOT message in the right hand panel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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