Zahnrad Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 SmartCast is easily one of my most anticipated mods for an SSE release, yet whenever I see it, it's gone within the hour. From what I can tell the Author hasn't even updated it since he originally made it for the Legacy edition. Now we can never have a version made for SSE because this guy has some kind of "copyright" on mods that do a similar thing despite having never even updating his original mod.Hate to say it so bluntly, but it's kinda selfish and shows the flaws of the Nexus with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorKaizeld Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 cop·y·right noun noun: copyright; plural noun: copyrights 1. the exclusive legal right, given to an originator or an assignee to print, publish, perform, film, or record literary, artistic, or musical material, and to authorize others to do the same. the author who makes a mod owns the mod and as the author owns it's copyright and can do with it as they please. It is not selfish it is their right, it is selfish to ignore their copyright and try to upload or demand it to be uploaded for SSE. That is theft and is not just a Nexus rule but a literal law which is why the Nexus has the rule (beyond the obvious morals part) it is because they legally have to enforce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 If what you're saying is true and other people are merely posting their own implementations of the same idea without copying the original author's code, Nexus is in the wrong unless that author can also prove he patented the idea. If those people ARE simply taking his code and recompiling it for SSE, they're 100% in the wrong and deserve whatever came to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve40 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Why is the author of SmartCast refusing to port to SSE? How the heck should we know. Go ask the author. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnrad Posted July 30, 2019 Author Share Posted July 30, 2019 cop·y·right nounnoun: copyright; plural noun: copyrights1.the exclusive legal right, given to an originator or an assignee to print, publish, perform, film, or record literary, artistic, or musical material, and to authorize others to do the same. the author who makes a mod owns the mod and as the author owns it's copyright and can do with it as they please. It is not selfish it is their right, it is selfish to ignore their copyright and try to upload or demand it to be uploaded for SSE. That is theft and is not just a Nexus rule but a literal law which is why the Nexus has the rule (beyond the obvious morals part) it is because they legally have to enforce it. Have you ever made an exception? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumbincubation Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 No matter what angle you try to work, to justify it, the end result will be that the author owns his/her mod and, absent specific permission (use the assets, redistribute, upload to a different game, etc.) that is that. Write to your politicians, tell them you want copyright laws changed, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnrad Posted July 30, 2019 Author Share Posted July 30, 2019 But it's not even their copyright, it's Bethesdas. Locking down an entire system is completely selfish. In the real world there is a limit to how long you own a copyright until you have to verify it again, if this mod author has been gone for 7 years I think it's safe to assume the mod author doesn't care, or might even be dead. Nexus needs a system like that, and I think a 5 year minimum is perfectly reasonable. But if you want to behave like Creation Club, well, that's your own decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorKaizeld Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 cop·y·right nounnoun: copyright; plural noun: copyrights 1.the exclusive legal right, given to an originator or an assignee to print, publish, perform, film, or record literary, artistic, or musical material, and to authorize others to do the same. the author who makes a mod owns the mod and as the author owns it's copyright and can do with it as they please. It is not selfish it is their right, it is selfish to ignore their copyright and try to upload or demand it to be uploaded for SSE. That is theft and is not just a Nexus rule but a literal law which is why the Nexus has the rule (beyond the obvious morals part) it is because they legally have to enforce it. Have you ever made an exception?No But it's not even their copyright, it's Bethesdas. Locking down an entire system is completely selfish. In the real world there is a limit to how long you own a copyright until you have to verify it again, if this mod author has been gone for 7 years I think it's safe to assume the mod author doesn't care, or might even be dead. Nexus needs a system like that, and I think a 5 year minimum is perfectly reasonable. But if you want to behave like Creation Club, well, that's your own decision.The copyright is the authors not Bethesdas. Bethesda has even stated that fact quite clearly. Copyright last 70 years as such that is the time the Nexus is legal required to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnrad Posted July 30, 2019 Author Share Posted July 30, 2019 So, do you think it's fine to leave it in a state where someone can just patent a mod then refuse anyone else the ability to make something similar? Because that's what this comes down to, nobody can make anything similar, and if they do it's immedietly taken down on behalf of an author who probably isn't even asking for it to be removed, neither do you have any intention to find out if they care. You're gatekeeping mods by doing that. Is that something anyone should find acceptable? That I can theortically, make a mod, have it in a limited state, then refuse anyone else the ability to attempt the same concept because I'm stubborn? Imagine if it was SKSE, like back when they threatened to pull it that one time. Any mod that was made compatible would be removed because "muh code". This is a dangerous road to go down, and I pray you don't one day kill skyrim modding with this mindset. Skyrim won't have a lifetime of 70 years, and I doubt any of us will either.We're already a divided community because of LE and SE. Unless exceptions are made this will only become a problem that gets worse over time. I don't want to see the Nexus be regarded as a Draconian website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnrad Posted July 30, 2019 Author Share Posted July 30, 2019 Why is the author of SmartCast refusing to port to SSE?How the heck should we know. Go ask the author. I implore you, if you can contact the author and ask him, I'm more than happy for you to do so, so far nobody can get a responce from him from what I can gather, along with my own attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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