JoboHotep Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Hi, I read through the "How To Ask For Support", so hopefully I'm asking correctly, and in the correct place! Vortex version: 1.0.0 System Specs: I5 7600k, 8GB system Ram, Radeon R9 280x 3GB GPU, Windows 10 build 1903 (fully updated), Fallout 4 and All DLC on Steam (also fully updated). This is my first time using Vortex, I have a clean, new install of Fallout 4 and DLC, and also started a new game (with no mods ran yet) saved directly after exiting Vault 111. I'm using 27 mods (8 are retextures that don't have plugins). I installed Vortex, and my mods, with no problems, and had Vortex sort them. My Load Order looks good (to me, an amateur), with the possible exception of Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.ESP. Vortex's Autosort wants to put it before "Better Settlers" (and Better Settlers related files. My concern is, I read on Scrap Everything's Mods page: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/5320/? that it seems important for it, and it's related file (BuildingGroundFix.ESP) to be placed last in my Load Order, but I'm not sure how to do that. Is Vortex (and LOOT) correct that it's fine above "Better Settlers"? If not, could someone please explain to me how to move Scrap Everything (and building fix) to the end of the Load Order? Here's my current Load Order: 00) Fallout4 ESM01) DLCRobot ESM 02) DLC Workshop 01 ESM03) DLCCoast ESM04) DLC Workshop 02 ESM05) DLC Workshop 03 ESM06) DLC NukaWorld ESM07) Unofficial Fallout 4 patch08) Homemaker.ESM09) TrueStormsFO4.ESM0A) Homemaker-Streetlights Use Passive Power0B) AzarPonytailHairstyles.ESP0C) TrueStormsFO4-Earlier Sunsets.ESP0D) TrueStormsFO4-Far Harbor.ESP0E) TrueStormsF04-Earlier SunsetsFH.ESP0F) TrueStormsF04-NukaWorld-FH.ESP10) Eli Armour Compendium.ESP11) Vertibird Faction Paint Schemes.ESP12) CBBE.ESP13) Cross_EyePatch.ESP14) CWSS Redux.ESP15) Horror Posters16) KSHairdos.ESP17) LoveToCraftLegendary_SwapOnly.ESP18) LoveToCraftLegendary_SwapOnly_Automatron.ESP19) LoveToCraftLegendary_SwapOnly_FarHarbor.ESP1A) LoveToCraftLegendary_SwapOnly_NukaWorld.ESP1B) OCDecorator.ESP1C) OCDecoratorDLC.ESP1D) OCDispenser.ESP1E) Smoke-able Cigars.ESP1F) BuildingGroundFix.ESP20) Vivid Fallout - All In One - Best Choice.ESP21) Scrap Everything - Ultimate Editon.ESP22) BetterSettlers.ESP23) BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.ESP24) BetterSettlersCleanFacesPack.ESP25) BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.ESP26) BetterSettlersMortalSoldiersPack.ESP I read all that I could find about Load Order in Vortex, Scrap Everything seems to have it's own Group (Scrap Everything), so I wasn't certain if I should mess with it's Group setting. I also tried establishing a rule to get Scrap Everything to load after Better Settlers, but got a "Plugins not sorted because of cyclic rules" until I removed the rule. Thank very much in advance for any help and info anyone can give me. This Load Order issue is the only snag I've run into, but didn't want to fire up my game until I was sure I have my Load Order sorted correctly. Also, I'm very sorry if I have given too much information, or have left any crucial info out (if so, just let me know!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Scrap everything is fine where it is in your load order because the mods that are loading after it don't affect the Buildings and Scrap The reason it's OK being above Better Settlers is, Scrap Everything changes Buildings, Scrap, etcBetter Settlers changes NPCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoboHotep Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 Scrap everything is fine where it is in your load order because the mods that are loading after it don't affect the Buildings and Scrap The reason it's OK being above Better Settlers is, Scrap Everything changes Buildings, Scrap, etcBetter Settlers changes NPCS. That makes perfect sense, thank you very much for your time, and also explaining to me why it's fine where it is! I honestly thought that might be the case, but I recognize that I'm still very much an amateur (and had not used Vortex before at all), so thought I should definitely ask folks that know more than myself. I'm going to mark my topic as solved, I'm not familiar enough with Nexus's forums to know if that will allow any further replies, but if it does, and anyone feels there's anything more I should know, I'll continue to check the topic for activity. Thanks again for the help, it's much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Scrap everything is fine where it is in your load order because the mods that are loading after it don't affect the Buildings and Scrap The reason it's OK being above Better Settlers is, Scrap Everything changes Buildings, Scrap, etcBetter Settlers changes NPCS. That makes perfect sense, thank you very much for your time, and also explaining to me why it's fine where it is! I honestly thought that might be the case, but I recognize that I'm still very much an amateur (and had not used Vortex before at all), so thought I should definitely ask folks that know more than myself. I'm going to mark my topic as solved, I'm not familiar enough with Nexus's forums to know if that will allow any further replies, but if it does, and anyone feels there's anything more I should know, I'll continue to check the topic for activity. Thanks again for the help, it's much appreciated! That's good to hear, and you seem to be off to a good start, and your intuition about Scrap Everything (for a self-proclaimed Amateur) was spot on!Well done, and I have a feeling you're going to pick up all of this modding stuff quite easily. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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