Design Update - Our New Navigation is here

[M48A5]

In response to post #73617903.

PlusUP wrote: I liked the old search feature. Pls put that in again (that search-pop-up). It takes to long to search through all mods when i press enter.
I like this design more but that feature was too good.

I would also like my opinion known about the old search feature.
Could someone explain how "Author" is now "User"?
By process of elimination, I found that using "User" is how you search for mod authors.

[ctuck61]

I like the idea of the tool bar frozen to the top, I don't have to scroll back up to access another area of the site. Thank you for bringing back the color scheme. As stated by many others notifications is kinda clunky. If I open a notification up in the first screen it will not automatically mark it as read. If I go to View All and open it there then it marks it as read. Or I can click on Mark All Read in the first screen, but for my own personal taste I don't like doing that. There are some notifications I want to read, but later. Thank you for all your team has done.

[BigBizkit]

In response to post #73644443.

Gwanuneg wrote: I apologize, this is just my opinion. I don’t understand why it was necessary to redo what worked so well. I tried a new design, but I didn’t like it. The navigation bar is inconvenient, the notification window does not translate into my language. Some of the information I need is now not available to me.
I returned to the old one, but now, I regret to see that in fact I have no choice. I read the reviews of other users and most, like me, did not like the new site design. I have a question. Why do the survey, if the Nexus team in any case did as she decided?
Most users were opposed, but the design was changed anyway.
And let me remind you that the new is not always better than the old.

We have been during the beta and we are still now listening to feedback and have already added some improvements that have been suggested. We understand that it's a new nav and it takes some time to adapt to, but the overwhelming consensus (based on the data we have) does not seem to be what you are insinuating, but rather the opposite. Edited September 25, 2019 by BigBizkit

[BigBizkit]

In response to post #73617903. #73645423 is also a reply to the same post.

PlusUP wrote: I liked the old search feature. Pls put that in again (that search-pop-up). It takes to long to search through all mods when i press enter.
I like this design more but that feature was too good.

M48A5 wrote: I would also like my opinion known about the old search feature.
Could someone explain how "Author" is now "User"?
By process of elimination, I found that using "User" is how you search for mod authors.

The search popup/preview is still there. The search has not been changed at all in that regard. This seems more like a malfunction on your end or the search service struggling to keep up with requests.

It should still behave like this: https://imgur.com/a/Xt1dIAM

[docteure]

In response to post #73638943. #73639038, #73639228, #73639373, #73639573 are all replies on the same post.

kat1004 wrote: Another unnecessary update to the site's design. At least the previous one was TOLERABLE. This one makes it so you have to click through more things, it's uglier than the previous redesign, and you guys still haven't removed that video at the bottom of mod pages that keeps popping up EVERY TIME you go to a new page.

Why am I not surprised that another bad design update was pushed without ACTUALLY consulting users?

Sonja wrote: "Why am I not surprised that another bad design update was pushed without ACTUALLY consulting users?"

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I'm no defender of this site, and have my own concerns with some of the directions it has went in, and appears to be going in. However, in this particular instance I really have to wonder if (a) we are viewing the same Nexus, because I actually find the new design far more efficient, and (b) whether you bothered to respond to the survey....where you would have had the chance to provide your user input.

kat1004 wrote: A survey that was never made known to me. And a survey that at least 80% of users *probably* never saw. I tried the beta for about a day and if I'd known about any survey, I would've responded to it. I'm noticing a lot of problems. Namely with how many times you have to click to do things. Also, the top bar clashes poorly with the website itself.

I have mild arthritis in my right hand. Technically both, but it's always been worse in the right. I always have since as long as I can remember. And I'm right-handed, so I have to use my right hand for my mouse, which hurts even with a decent mouse. With the previous redesign, ugly as it was, I could get to my favorited games with a single click. I didn't have to use the mouse any longer than necessary to get to things. With this one, you have to click twice. Not the worst thing in the world, no, but that clicking adds up. I've already got arthritis, so I'd *really* rather not get carpal tunnel as well.

Also, what about the annoying ad that always pops up and blocks a portion of the screen? Another click, though that was part of the previous redesign, unless you're so used to ads that it doesn't bother you anymore. Not everyone can afford to get supporter or premium to get rid of the ads, and with adblocker, the download speed is cut in half.

Sonja wrote: Eh... the survey was right on the Beta page, as I recall, and pretty hard to miss.
That said, my honest sympathies that it isn't working out well for you, and that it's aggravating your health. Hopefully, they'll take your feedback here, at least, under advisement.
In the meantime, if it's an option, is it possible for you to create a thumbnail for the pages of your favourite games on your browser home page/Speed Dial? I use Chrome and Opera, primarily, and I find this works quite well.

kat1004 wrote: I never saw the survey, or I would've done it. Granted, I'm always being told I miss obvious things, but they're not obvious to me. And besides, I doubt they're going to seriously take feedback from the comments here. I hope they do, but I doubt they will. They didn't last redesign.

It's an option I've already done, but not one that I like. It's a workaround and while workarounds are good, they're *workarounds*. I'd much rather see Nexus care about their users who might or might not have actual physical problems than have to use a workaround.

(edited for spacing)

it was so obvious, as a "banner" at the near top of nexus page, few weeks ago when they wanted users to try beta version and gave feedback. the "banner" was constantly there and also gave direction for the survey...so not sure how you missed it...or perhaps you just were inactive during that period, but yeah it was there for weeks. Edited September 25, 2019 by docteure

[tktk1]

The new design is good. I hope that the forum will be modified in the same direction. I know it's not going to be easy...

[Gwanuneg]

In response to post #73644443. #73645513 is also a reply to the same post.

Gwanuneg wrote: I apologize, this is just my opinion. I don’t understand why it was necessary to redo what worked so well. I tried a new design, but I didn’t like it. The navigation bar is inconvenient, the notification window does not translate into my language. Some of the information I need is now not available to me.
I returned to the old one, but now, I regret to see that in fact I have no choice. I read the reviews of other users and most, like me, did not like the new site design. I have a question. Why do the survey, if the Nexus team in any case did as she decided?
Most users were opposed, but the design was changed anyway.
And let me remind you that the new is not always better than the old.

BigBizkit wrote: We have been during the beta and we are still now listening to feedback and have already added some improvements that have been suggested. We understand that it's a new nav and it takes some time to adapt to, but the overwhelming consensus (based on the data we have) does not seem to be what you are insinuating, but rather the opposite.

Yes, I saw that now I can translate the notification window. Although I still do not understand why this update was needed. Thanks for the quick response. Edited September 25, 2019 by Gwanuneg

[Kalell]

I'm fine with it. Looks different but seems to function basically the same.

[vBrumenn]

In response to post #73638943. #73639038, #73639228, #73639373, #73639573, #73645613 are all replies on the same post.

kat1004 wrote: Another unnecessary update to the site's design. At least the previous one was TOLERABLE. This one makes it so you have to click through more things, it's uglier than the previous redesign, and you guys still haven't removed that video at the bottom of mod pages that keeps popping up EVERY TIME you go to a new page.

Why am I not surprised that another bad design update was pushed without ACTUALLY consulting users?

Sonja wrote: "Why am I not surprised that another bad design update was pushed without ACTUALLY consulting users?"

~~~
I'm no defender of this site, and have my own concerns with some of the directions it has went in, and appears to be going in. However, in this particular instance I really have to wonder if (a) we are viewing the same Nexus, because I actually find the new design far more efficient, and (b) whether you bothered to respond to the survey....where you would have had the chance to provide your user input.

kat1004 wrote: A survey that was never made known to me. And a survey that at least 80% of users *probably* never saw. I tried the beta for about a day and if I'd known about any survey, I would've responded to it. I'm noticing a lot of problems. Namely with how many times you have to click to do things. Also, the top bar clashes poorly with the website itself.

I have mild arthritis in my right hand. Technically both, but it's always been worse in the right. I always have since as long as I can remember. And I'm right-handed, so I have to use my right hand for my mouse, which hurts even with a decent mouse. With the previous redesign, ugly as it was, I could get to my favorited games with a single click. I didn't have to use the mouse any longer than necessary to get to things. With this one, you have to click twice. Not the worst thing in the world, no, but that clicking adds up. I've already got arthritis, so I'd *really* rather not get carpal tunnel as well.

Also, what about the annoying ad that always pops up and blocks a portion of the screen? Another click, though that was part of the previous redesign, unless you're so used to ads that it doesn't bother you anymore. Not everyone can afford to get supporter or premium to get rid of the ads, and with adblocker, the download speed is cut in half.

Sonja wrote: Eh... the survey was right on the Beta page, as I recall, and pretty hard to miss.
That said, my honest sympathies that it isn't working out well for you, and that it's aggravating your health. Hopefully, they'll take your feedback here, at least, under advisement.
In the meantime, if it's an option, is it possible for you to create a thumbnail for the pages of your favourite games on your browser home page/Speed Dial? I use Chrome and Opera, primarily, and I find this works quite well.

kat1004 wrote: I never saw the survey, or I would've done it. Granted, I'm always being told I miss obvious things, but they're not obvious to me. And besides, I doubt they're going to seriously take feedback from the comments here. I hope they do, but I doubt they will. They didn't last redesign.

It's an option I've already done, but not one that I like. It's a workaround and while workarounds are good, they're *workarounds*. I'd much rather see Nexus care about their users who might or might not have actual physical problems than have to use a workaround.

(edited for spacing)

docteure wrote: it was so obvious, as a "banner" at the near top of nexus page, few weeks ago when they wanted users to try beta version and gave feedback. the "banner" was constantly there and also gave direction for the survey...so not sure how you missed it...or perhaps you just were inactive during that period, but yeah it was there for weeks.

I didn't see the banner for the survey aswell. I think I vaguely remember something about the team working "on something new" but if that's what you're speaking about how were we supposed to guess this was the title of a survey? Especially when nobody seems to care about what we think most of the time anyway?
Also I have pains in the hands and joints too (chronic diffuse neuropathic pains and wounded sciatic nerve) and the first thing I thought when I saw the design was "Oh sht tell me they didn't put everything under the big titles and that we'll have to click to develop". And guess what. More clicks. Another site difficult to check.
I confirm it hurts as hell when you have a physical medical condition and the site is now worse on accesibility for the purpose of unnecessary ~aesthetic changes once again. But again I guess we'll just have thrown at us the whole "deal with it/you'll get used to it" discourse except no. Pains won't "deal with it". But what do you want? Guess we'll use Nexus even less.

If I may ramble a bit: kat do you have a ergonomic mouse? It's a bit odd to use at first but you get used to it after a while. Surprisingly it does relieve my pains a little. I bought one during a sale to have it cheaper (~12-15€). It's still money investment but I personnally consider it as a good one and at least it is applicable to other websites and gaming now I don't know if it would be of any use for your specific condition but it is supposed to avoid a position that is messing with your forearm/wrist.
Soon disabled peoples will have to take more painkillers before even thinking about using internet because it seems there's a trend to do useless redesigns without giving a sht about accessibility on websites these days (may it be administrative/official websites or gaming/forum/distration websites). Anyway. Good luck. Have a nice day/evening.

[HeroinZero]

 

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HeroinZero wrote:

New navigation bar is broken if you use Firefox with "Allow pages to choose their own fonts" option disabled (I always have this option disabled since I don't like most websites fonts).

These arrows, bell and other icons on the top bar now are special symbols from their special font, not images. I don't understand why they changed this. It just worked, with any regular font...

 

Yeah, these changes are completely unnecessary, IMO.

Why not keep using images for special symbols, I'm sure they were like 1 kb in size each and everything was working fine with any font...

This needs to be fixed, it's super annoying to toggle fonts on and off every time I visit Nexus.