Freya1997 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) While the game definitely does come across as interesting, there are a few problems I have with it based on what I see in the trailer and what I could gather from a quick glance at the steam description. - Locked to first person perspective and I have next to no love for melee combat in these cases. That's not to say I can't enjoy it, but it detracts a lot as hit detection always comes across as complete garbage in these games.- Outdated graphics. Though seeing as it's made by indie developers, I could forgive this one rather easily.- Set protagonist and no character customization. While set protagonists is not a bad thing, I quite frankly expect a -LOT- more in games like these and always will. At the very least the characters gender should've been selectable, but as it stands it is a no buy for me.(I suppose the TES games and many others has spoiled me in this regard) Those few issues aside, the map system definitely isn't something I can recall having seen before outside of maybe minecraft vanilla, but this one seems to have a lot more functionality than "hold up and look where you are!". There seems to be a crafting system in place as well and that could be an interesting feature(albeit unimportant to me as I rarely bother with them outside of certain circumstances). The premise is in general an interesting idea and the more that tries these kinds of things, the better for everyone. So in the end I hope these guys manage to sell plenty of copies and make enough to improve on what they have here. Edited November 13, 2012 by Freya1997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainia Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 While the game definitely does come across as interesting, there are a few problems I have with it based on what I see in the trailer and what I could gather from a quick glance at the steam description. - Locked to first person perspective and I have next to no love for melee combat in these cases. That's not to say I can't enjoy it, but it detracts a lot as hit detection always comes across as complete garbage in these games.- Outdated graphics. Though seeing as it's made by indie developers, I could forgive this one rather easily.- Set protagonist and no character customization. While set protagonists is not a bad thing, I quite frankly expect a -LOT- more in games like these and always will. At the very least the characters gender should've been selectable, but as it stands it is a no buy for me.(I suppose the TES games and many others has spoiled me in this regard) Those few issues aside, the map system definitely isn't something I can recall having seen before outside of maybe minecraft vanilla, but this one seems to have a lot more functionality than "hold up and look where you are!". There seems to be a crafting system in place as well and that could be an interesting feature(albeit unimportant to me as I rarely bother with them outside of certain circumstances). The premise is in general an interesting idea and the more that tries these kinds of things, the better for everyone. So in the end I hope these guys manage to sell plenty of copies and make enough to improve on what they have here. Every point you made here is completely true for myself. Even if the game isn't one I'll typically be interested in, I want it to do well. Anything that brings depth or creativity to the gaming industry - or hell, entertainment as a whole - is welcome in my opinion. I do hope they can make some improvements to the graphics, but there were definitely some things that intrigued me. Kind of thinking - at this point, that may change - that the quest size may limit replayability, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 All these comments are about technical and graphics details, that's OK but is not what I and, I believe, a few other are seeking in a game. The plot looked to me something between Dear Esther where you are driven by the story with almost no interaction at all and combat oriented game (although I did not see any actual combat also). This alone may be enough to make me give it a try. Yet, the Engine looks good and might make for a factor as well. For sure the game seems to bring a totally different kind of experience to the point of comparing with Skyrim and many other games pointless, they have almost nothing in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainia Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Nosiab - none of us are really saying the technical comments will stop us from playing. Buying any kind of game means taking different elements of it into consideration. I think pretty much everyone has indicated that they see a fair bit of potential in the game. The Dear Esther game thing - the concept of having no interaction - really isn't my cup of tea (i'd rather read a book or whatever, sometimes maybe watch a movie) but the game definitely has potential even outside that. I think most people are going to want quality graphics and technical details, if only because in some ways they allow for more depth - think of the map for example. (i really like it, as far as I can tell from the 1 trailer.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRocks Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 It looks nice, sounds interesting since the plot isn't just copypasta, and I'd like to support indies anytime when the game is good. But I'm on the opposite side of the argument. There are a lot of things I see that aren't graphically THAT great. The trailer isn't so telling of course, even in 720p, but the screenshots are: Screen 1That LOD is very Oblivion, and while it isn't landscape, it is something you'll probably see a lot, and that's the skin texture. The watch also isn't great, and the compass clips through his palm and finger. The mesh itself isn't too bad though. Also on the topic of the skin:Screen 2 Screen 3The dirt path is definitely low resolution, and the rocks are very pointy. I mean, yeah, they're rocks, but those look like hand carved weapons pratically, rocks should be a bit smooth. The leaves also appear very blurry. Screen 4The logs look pretty good, and the bark on trees does too. The leaves? Blocky edges sadly. I've seen worse, but those are still not to modded Skyrim quality. Also, the dead leaves on the ground are low res. Screen 5The grass has a low res texture, as well as whatever the other foliage is. Suffers from blocky edges. The squirrel looks really good though, other than the mesh issue with the tail being pointy. Also, the LOD is very low res here, despite those hills not being that far away in this screen. Screen 6The ground texture is low resolution and thus very blurry. Screen 7Wood is low res on the cabinets. Screen 8Good water, good plants it seems, but bad LOD. Screen 9Vegetation has blocky edges, LOD again. Basically, maybe these are from earlier on in development, but I certainly wouldn't continue to display those on both Steam and the official website if I had made huge improvements. (Maybe on the official site, in a "timeline" sort of thing, to show the improvement, but that's it.) The effects department, they did an amazing job on, as well as sounds and music. Definitely, but unless the textures have improved, most are pretty low res to be honest. And LOD is too, and some of the meshes seem pretty blocky. The system requirements, while they mention are subject to change, are currently pretty low also. Now, all that said, will any of this stop me from buying it? Naw, if the gameplay is still fun, I'd buy it. Also, overall, for what only two people accomplished, it's pretty great! No doubt they're really talented, and I already think I'd like to see more from them in the future. And by the way, I didn't read all the Youtube comments or anything, but have they said anything about mods? I see they haven't outright denied them at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Nosiab - none of us are really saying the technical comments will stop us from playing. Buying any kind of game means taking different elements of it into consideration. I think pretty much everyone has indicated that they see a fair bit of potential in the game. The Dear Esther game thing - the concept of having no interaction - really isn't my cup of tea (i'd rather read a book or whatever, sometimes maybe watch a movie) but the game definitely has potential even outside that. I think most people are going to want quality graphics and technical details, if only because in some ways they allow for more depth - think of the map for example. (i really like it, as far as I can tell from the 1 trailer.)I meant no criticism, but yourself said it all, it is not without interaction (actually it brought "alchemy" to another level) but looks like you'll be going from a narrative of the guy's sickness to into finding (or not) a cure. If, just for example, this is not your cup of tea, the graphics may not help a bit. Does not matter, for a lot of people the quality is in the varnish anyway. Whatever the judgement, it would be subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzburg Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 It looks like something that would bore me to tears. However, the work they have done is impressive under the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonar Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Reminds me of Mist (old game I know). Explore, map, hide, collect/combine ingredients. I'm sure the story is good and the graphics don't look that bad to me. I wouldn't compare it to Skyrim though, don't think it's the same type of game at all. Glad someone is trying out new things and stepping away from the norm, but don't think this one's for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakakita Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 *Myst. That was my thought as well. Always first person, no character generation, kill your foes with puzzles. Lots of puzzles. Some very complex puzzles. Be prepared to take notes. But Myst did have a really interesting back story if you felt like grabbing the books (which are out of print last time I checked). I liked the books.. no one I know has been willing to read them though, other than my sister who gave up on them. I like how the map function worked though, and that was new. But I think the biggest, 'this looks a lot like Myst' thing is the lack of other people. You feel very lonely when playing the first game, because anyone you see until the end-ish is either a hologram or a picture. They added more interaction with people in the other games. But even when your opponent has a gun pointed at your head, you never have access to any sort of weapon, and have to get away using other methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanusForbeare Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I liked the books.. no one I know has been willing to read them though, other than my sister who gave up on them. I did! I think they're still sitting in a box in my parents house somewhere. I actually loved them... I never played Myst (though I enjoyed Riven), but the books really brought the series to life for me. Even if there aren't many weapons in Miasmata (there are some, clearly - the player picked up a knife in one of the trailers) I think I'm really going to enjoy this game, simply for the feeling of returning to the old-school RPG genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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