Help with Darn UI and UIO

[nomotiv]

Hello, I'm new to modding Fallout New Vegas. I modded the game like a couple weeks ago and my Darn UI was doing fine until I installed The Weapon Mod Menu. I was confused at why this was happening and tried to fix it on my own, but unfortunatley I was unable to solve the issue so I just unistalled the game and all mods that I put in it.

 

I then found out about the Fear and Loathing in New Vegas modding guide and have been following that. After I finished the UI part of the Guide I went to go and test the mods but the same problem occured, the compass wasn't working correctly, the text boxes are out of place and the text borders are missing, some text is clipping over each other and in the pause menu, the MCM text isn't even in the right place, it's all the way to the top left.

 

I've tried looking for help online and wasn't able to find a fix, I've change the fonts in fallout.ini, fallout_default.ini and falloutPrefs.ini but then I tried disabling some mods to see what was causing the problem and when I disabled UIO everything that was wrong was fixed, I tried looking for a way of making Darn UI and UIO compatiple for me but I didn't find anything so I'm making the thread in hopes of finding a solution.

 

I am using Mod Organizer 2 and I have NVSE and 4GB Patch installed.

 

If there isn't a way to fix this do you suggest that I use a different UI mod such as Vanillia UI Plus or something else instead of Darn UI? Either way I appreciate anyone who tries to help.

 

Also sorry if this is written badly, I've never written a forum thread in my life so this is my first ever one lol.

[JimmyRJump]

Ask your question in one of the New Vegas fora. The appropriate one. And read what it says in some of the stickies about how to ask for help. Like the sticky in Newbies that says not to ask specific game questions in a forum that is aimed at newbies to say hello :wink:

 

Writing badly isn't something that by magic happens in a forum. It's a question of education. Do it bad here and you'll probably do it bad anywhere else. But you seem educated.

[Purr4me]

Hello, I'm new to modding Fallout New Vegas. I modded the game like a couple weeks ago and my Darn UI was doing fine until I installed The Weapon Mod Menu. I was confused at why this was happening and tried to fix it on my own, but unfortunatley I was unable to solve the issue so I just unistalled the game and all mods that I put in it.

 

I then found out about the Fear and Loathing in New Vegas modding guide and have been following that. After I finished the UI part of the Guide I went to go and test the mods but the same problem occured, the compass wasn't working correctly, the text boxes are out of place and the text borders are missing, some text is clipping over each other and in the pause menu, the MCM text isn't even in the right place, it's all the way to the top left.

 

I've tried looking for help online and wasn't able to find a fix, I've change the fonts in fallout.ini, fallout_default.ini and falloutPrefs.ini but then I tried disabling some mods to see what was causing the problem and when I disabled UIO everything that was wrong was fixed, I tried looking for a way of making Darn UI and UIO compatiple for me but I didn't find anything so I'm making the thread in hopes of finding a solution.

 

I am using Mod Organizer 2 and I have NVSE and 4GB Patch installed.

 

If there isn't a way to fix this do you suggest that I use a different UI mod such as Vanillia UI Plus or something else instead of Darn UI? Either way I appreciate anyone who tries to help.

 

Also sorry if this is written badly, I've never written a forum thread in my life so this is my first ever one lol.

The faster way to accomplish a find and fix is to highlight the "Darn UI" text and select search google for the item in question.

this will lead to all threads and correspondence dealing with the issue.

[nomotiv]

 

Hello, I'm new to modding Fallout New Vegas. I modded the game like a couple weeks ago and my Darn UI was doing fine until I installed The Weapon Mod Menu. I was confused at why this was happening and tried to fix it on my own, but unfortunatley I was unable to solve the issue so I just unistalled the game and all mods that I put in it.

 

I then found out about the Fear and Loathing in New Vegas modding guide and have been following that. After I finished the UI part of the Guide I went to go and test the mods but the same problem occured, the compass wasn't working correctly, the text boxes are out of place and the text borders are missing, some text is clipping over each other and in the pause menu, the MCM text isn't even in the right place, it's all the way to the top left.

 

I've tried looking for help online and wasn't able to find a fix, I've change the fonts in fallout.ini, fallout_default.ini and falloutPrefs.ini but then I tried disabling some mods to see what was causing the problem and when I disabled UIO everything that was wrong was fixed, I tried looking for a way of making Darn UI and UIO compatiple for me but I didn't find anything so I'm making the thread in hopes of finding a solution.

 

I am using Mod Organizer 2 and I have NVSE and 4GB Patch installed.

 

If there isn't a way to fix this do you suggest that I use a different UI mod such as Vanillia UI Plus or something else instead of Darn UI? Either way I appreciate anyone who tries to help.

 

Also sorry if this is written badly, I've never written a forum thread in my life so this is my first ever one lol.

 

The faster way to accomplish a find and fix is to highlight the "Darn UI" text and select search google for the item in question.

this will lead to all threads and correspondence dealing with the issue.

Well Darn UI isn't the problem, it works perfectly when UIO is disabled but when I enable it everything is messed up. It's like It doing the opposite of what it should be doing. I also tried enabling UIO without any other ui mods enabled and the same problem still occurs.

 

I just don't know what's happening because the first time I ever installed it, it was fine but now it just doesn't work at all. Do you think that the mod manager that I'm using is causing the problem?

[nomotiv]

Ask your question in one of the New Vegas fora. The appropriate one. And read what it says in some of the stickies about how to ask for help. Like the sticky in Newbies that says not to ask specific game questions in a forum that is aimed at newbies to say hello :wink:

 

Writing badly isn't something that by magic happens in a forum. It's a question of education. Do it bad here and you'll probably do it bad anywhere else. But you seem educated.

Okay sorry, I'll do that next time. Thanks for the heads up.

[Purr4me]

Is this the item in question?

1. https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/57174
2. https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/44515
3. https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/42507
4. https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/47048

 

UIO also makes it possible to install any supported UI mod manually (i.e. by a simple files-to-folders extraction), without running any scripted installer (most UI mods use scripted installers in order to modify one or more of the game's UI files. These installers are known to fail on some machines, and may break other mods when uninstalled).

 

Edited February 17, 2020 by Purr4me

[nomotiv]

 

Ask your question in one of the New Vegas fora. The appropriate one. And read what it says in some of the stickies about how to ask for help. Like the sticky in Newbies that says not to ask specific game questions in a forum that is aimed at newbies to say hello :wink:

 

Writing badly isn't something that by magic happens in a forum. It's a question of education. Do it bad here and you'll probably do it bad anywhere else. But you seem educated.

Okay sorry, I'll do that next time. Thanks for the heads up.

Yes I was using UIO, Weapon mod menu and MCM.

[HadToRegister]

This is how to do it properly.

“Base UI mods” make direct changes to the menu files and the user interface in general. Conflicts between base mods require patches or specific installation instructions. This category includes overhauls such as Vanilla UI Plus, Darnified UI, and Revelation but also mods such as oHUD, Vanilla HUD Remastered and Pip-Boy paperdolls.

“UIO” is an acronym for the User Interface Organizer for Fallout 3 or New Vegas. This is an NVSE plugin that performs compatibility operations. It’s essential in this guide and can also protect your game from some mod-related startup CTDs.

“UI extensions” add new features into the interface, linking their code into menu files without otherwise modifying them. Any mod that requires UIO, or it’s mentioned in UIO’s description page, is an extension. Popular examples include the Mod Configuration Menu, Project Nevada, Weapon Mod Menu, Better Pickup Prompt etc. Thanks to UIO you can use multiple extensions without using patches.

Installation

Before you start, make sure that you have enabled your mod manager’s Archive Invalidation function, and you have installed UIO. Now apply the following steps in order:

Install any extension supported by UIO. Don’t worry about conflicts at this stage.

Install your base UI overhaul and allow it to win any conflicts.

Install any additional base mods. Conflicts between such mods and your base overhaul can only be resolved by installation instructions or patches.

When you run the game, UIO will link the extensions into the installed base files. It performs this operation on temporary copies, after renaming the currently installed base files. Everything now works together and there is only one thing to keep in mind...

Don’t uninstall base UI mods right after force-closing the game!

To uninstall base UI mods make sure your last exit from the game was from the game menu instead of crashing, Alt-F4 etc.

When you quit the game from its menu, UIO will delete the temporary copies and restore the original base mod files. This won’t take place if the game was closed via Alt-F4 or a crash but it won’t be a problem if you run the game again: it will work fine and the proper files will be restored after you normally quit the game.

However, if you rush to uninstall your base UI mod right after the game is force-closed, your mod manager will delete the temporary files instead of the renamed originals. Next time you run the game, UIO will restore those backups that depend on the removed mod, leading to malfunction. The only way to fix this problem is to reinstall any mod that writes in your Data\Menus folder via right click and “Reinstall”.

Example 1: VUI+, BPP, PN, MCM, oHUD, VHR, and Pitt Gal

Yeah, those acronyms. They stand for Vanilla UI Plus, Better Command Prompt, Project Nevada, Mod Configuration Menu, One HUD, Vanilla HUD Remastered, and Pitt Gal. By checking out the “Currently supported mods” list for UIO as well as the descriptions of our mods we figure out the following:

BPP, PN, and the MCM are extensions, so we don’t need to worry about them.

VUI+ states that it must overwrite oHUD.

VUI+ provides an addon for Pitt Gal which states that VUI+ should overwrite Pitt Gal.

VHR states that it must overwrite VUI+.

So, we’re now ready to start installing:

As suggested by step 1 of the guide, BPP, PN, and the MCM are installed first. We don’t care about conflicts between them.

oHUD is now installed.

Pitt Gal is installed.

VUI+ is now installed. We overwrite any conflicts with mods installed on step 1, as suggested by this guide, and we also overwrite oHUD and Pitt Gal as instructed by VUI+.

The VUI+ patch for Pitt Gal is installed.

Finally VHR is installed, overwriting VUI+.

That was easy since VUI+ is designed for maximum compatibility. Let’s try something harder.

Example 2: DUI, BPP, PN, MCM, oHUD, and Pitt Gal

Darnified UI is an old and highly respected interface overhaul. It has its own unique style, based on smaller fonts which are especially appealing to players who want to use additional HUD infographics. Although it was left in alpha stage, it is fully functional and the majority of UI mods work fine with it.

Like most extensions, BPP, MCM and PN are compatible with DUI.

oHUD provides a patch for DUI. According to the description, we must allow both oHUD and its patch to overwrite DUI.

After a bit of searching we find what we need to make Pitt Gal work with DUI:

a) Patch for the Pip-Boy: Pitt Gal Stats for DarNified UI NV

b) Patch for the HUD: Pitt Gal Stats NV - HUD FIX - DarnUI

VHR is not included in this example because it’s a base mod and does not have a compatibility notice for DUI. We must assume they are not compatible.

We’re now ready to start installing, keeping in mind that patches should always be overwriting their parent mods:

BPP, PN, and the MCM are installed first. We don’t care about conflicts between them.

Pitt Gal Stats NV is installed.

DUI is installed and overwrites any files from step 1 and 2.

Pitt Gal Stats for DarNified UI NV is installed. We allow it to overwrite DUI.

Pitt Gal Stats NV - HUD FIX - DarnUI is installed. There are no conflicts.

oHUD is installed and we allow it to overwrite everything as recommended by oHUD.

oHUD Darnified Patch is finally installed.

UIO will automatically make the necessary edits to allow DUI’s fonts to work. In case it doesn’t, ignore any advice about editing your INI files and simply install Darnified Font Dummies.

[nomotiv]

I know this is late but last month I had another go at modding Fallout New Vegas and the problem I was having with UIO was all because of an anti-virus on my computer. I disabled it and it worked so nevermind lol.