Help regarding 80 mods and crash.

[Jankosi]

Tried using mods from this website. https://eso-ui.com/fallout4/ and following it's guides and commented on it failed. This place is kinda outdated, but i didn't want to use NMM and have Vortex, so not sure what i'm doing wrong so far.

I saw the Beauty eyes worked...ok? REALLY sharp reflection in the eyes, however. And their bodies were glowing a very weak hue, for some reason. Mod worked...kinda? One of many of them? Child was an odd brown color, i did see the LooksMenu and other Character Creation things work mostly ok, but some were missing their different variations and certain things didn't even appear at all.

Some mods were conflicting and some were redundant. A indication that things may not work as Ultimate Immersion says it will.
Since i installed optional ones, which was in the Core Links, not sure if things will be as easy to figure out anymore when i deviate from original decisions a tad.

Wish i could put down screenshot. But the stupid Attach Files only allow 250kb...and these are over 300.

Would love some help. Thanks!

[Jankosi]

Bump. No one have really typed anything here yet...

[dark47]

You don't HAVE to use Vortex to use mods from Nexus. I've used Nexus Mod Manager for years and have no problems. When something seems to go wrong with mods or the game in general, people on this site are always able and willing to help. Perhaps it's because I'm old and maybe a little set in my ways, but I don't really trust mods from other sites. I've tried some on occasion, but there always seems to be some sort of problem, and as you've noticed, support for said mods is lacking.

[StormWolf01]

You don't HAVE to use Vortex to use mods from Nexus. I've used Nexus Mod Manager for years and have no problems. When something seems to go wrong with mods or the game in general, people on this site are always able and willing to help. Perhaps it's because I'm old and maybe a little set in my ways, but I don't really trust mods from other sites. I've tried some on occasion, but there always seems to be some sort of problem, and as you've noticed, support for said mods is lacking.

Heyas Dark!

Ok, so I took a look at the page that's linked. And while I didn't go through all of the list, most of them are links to mod pages here at the nexus. So the site is being legit, in that they're not trying to redistribute nexus files or anything like that.

But the site also mentions edits or tweaks, that they don't go any further with. Either to explain, or download. Nor does it seem like the list is being supported. At least, not from that page.

 

Jankosi - Ok, so part of the problem is that you're not giving an accurate description of the problems that this load order is causing. If you want to use pics to help describe it, use a 3rd party image host site like imgbox to host the images and then post links to them.

This is just some generic advice, but it might help.

Since you're using vortex, make sure that all the mods are deployed. Also double check your load order through the in-game mod manager to make sure that all of them are active.

 

Also make sure that you are using this- https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/42497 so that any older mods are working with a newer version of the game, and vice versa if that applies.

 

Also since there's a lot of these mods that do similar things, it may require some load order juggling to get them to work together. IF they will work together.

 

Another part of is that you may need to remove and then reinstall some of these mods manually. I've never worked with ENB's so I dunno what all that entails. But I do know (and I'm not gonna go into any comments about who's fault it might be. I don't want that debate popping up into your thread. Or look like I'm trying to throw anybody under the bus.) but vortex does not always install mods correctly.

 

One thing that I WILL go ahead and say tho, is that this whole listing thing is a bad way to go. People download all these mods in these lists, and don't take the time to test them out for playability. When you're installing mods, you need to take time. You need to add them slowly, and test them. People reading these lists, using modmanagers, don't do that.

Edited March 6, 2020 by StormWolf01

[JimmyRJump]

I went from NMM to Vortex and the exact same mod list I used with NMM didn't work in Vortex. I threw Vortex off of my PC after almost two months and re-installing mods five times plus a sixth time when I went back to NMM. That's over three-thousand mods alltogether. Hit the link in my sig for the latest Nexus Mod Manager.

[Jankosi]

You don't HAVE to use Vortex to use mods from Nexus. I've used Nexus Mod Manager for years and have no problems. When something seems to go wrong with mods or the game in general, people on this site are always able and willing to help. Perhaps it's because I'm old and maybe a little set in my ways, but I don't really trust mods from other sites. I've tried some on occasion, but there always seems to be some sort of problem, and as you've noticed, support for said mods is lacking.

 

 

 

You don't HAVE to use Vortex to use mods from Nexus. I've used Nexus Mod Manager for years and have no problems. When something seems to go wrong with mods or the game in general, people on this site are always able and willing to help. Perhaps it's because I'm old and maybe a little set in my ways, but I don't really trust mods from other sites. I've tried some on occasion, but there always seems to be some sort of problem, and as you've noticed, support for said mods is lacking.

Heyas Dark!

Ok, so I took a look at the page that's linked. And while I didn't go through all of the list, most of them are links to mod pages here at the nexus. So the site is being legit, in that they're not trying to redistribute nexus files or anything like that.

But the site also mentions edits or tweaks, that they don't go any further with. Either to explain, or download. Nor does it seem like the list is being supported. At least, not from that page.

 

Jankosi - Ok, so part of the problem is that you're not giving an accurate description of the problems that this load order is causing. If you want to use pics to help describe it, use a 3rd party image host site like imgbox to host the images and then post links to them.

This is just some generic advice, but it might help.

Since you're using vortex, make sure that all the mods are deployed. Also double check your load order through the in-game mod manager to make sure that all of them are active.

 

Also make sure that you are using this- https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/42497 so that any older mods are working with a newer version of the game, and vice versa if that applies.

 

Also since there's a lot of these mods that do similar things, it may require some load order juggling to get them to work together. IF they will work together.

 

Another part of is that you may need to remove and then reinstall some of these mods manually. I've never worked with ENB's so I dunno what all that entails. But I do know (and I'm not gonna go into any comments about who's fault it might be. I don't want that debate popping up into your thread. Or look like I'm trying to throw anybody under the bus.) but vortex does not always install mods correctly.

 

One thing that I WILL go ahead and say tho, is that this whole listing thing is a bad way to go. People download all these mods in these lists, and don't take the time to test them out for playability. When you're installing mods, you need to take time. You need to add them slowly, and test them. People reading these lists, using modmanagers, don't do that.

 

Alright. Super thanks! Sorry i wasn't available lately. I wasn't expecting any answer so soon after i bumped my thread, so i wen't to watching videos half-asleep in my chair.

 

I don't know why i cannot put screenshot or any up. I do NOT understand how to on this website at all, and i've been part of mind blowing amounts of Forums and relative such. Very rarely do i find one where i cannot put up a screenshot straight from my computer at all, which is very frustrating if not almost enraging. Since i rely on simplicity in these modern times. Anyways!

 

I'm aware they do similar things. I'm aware a lot of people are set in NMM. I was too, i used it WAY before most did long time ago. But i kinda dropped it as i relied a bit more manual methods as games back then weren't so advanced and difficult to screw with and toy with their files and settings. I took Vortex as it was the continuing program over NMM and it started getting support and design, despite it's...difficulties and problems. Once you figured it out and managed to get around it's issues, it was fairly easy and simple to use. But i still can't really personally comprehend it's Loading Order system, that's the one thing that gives me problems only. So far BEFORE i did this crazy nonsense, i didn't have so many conflicting mods. And now that i have them, i'm running into circles more times i'm willing to count...repeating the same things to see if anything works, with few differences. Changing Load Order, uninstalling some, disabling some and etc etc.

 

One of the more main problems is as you said, StormWolf. These are some similar mods that does generally the same. I managed to figure out...or at least to the Guide Order, almost the EXACT same (or so it seems???) Load Order. However. It STILL does not work. The weird thing is that i just touched the Coffee Cup in the House you start at. And that is a very weird crash. As i do not believe almost ANY of the Mods have anything to do with the Coffee Cup. So i scratch my head in utter disbelief and confusion as to what exactly is causing Coffee Cup interaction crash.

 

I've taken a note that half the mods seem (rough estimation without being outside Vault you come from) works. This is a very, very rough estimation and theory that they do, as i did note some already did. ENB being one that roughly worked but caused some rather odd issues, that may or may have been conflicting with the other Graphic Mods that affect Human Models (including the baby that became Poop Brown...) and light that seem unusually sharp or dull to some degree, depending the direction the Model is being reflected at. So the Mods i'm using, the only ones that SO FAR causes issues MUST be Graphic Mods and Animation Mods, or very similar.

 

I'm gonna have to wrap my head about what i'm doing and i may just slam NMM instead. Cause no matter what i do with the friggen Vortex, it frustratingly troubles me with it's Load Order function to a madly degree. I don't know WHO thought that automatically Load things in their own order without opting manual configuration, was a wise idea. It ain't at all. And has only made things far more difficult for no reason at all. Otherwise then that, Vortex is rather good if you don't value in the Load Order Functionality of it...........

 

Imma redo everything into NMM instead. IF you have some opinions or things to tell me. Either be it Guides you want to give me, Mods you feel like would be a good addition or anything you wanna say. Just speak your mind! I welcome anything! Even if i may not like it.