Invisible walls and floor for some buildings

[Kovenicus]

Hi,

 

I am experiencing a bug in which the floor and walls of some buildings are appearing and disappearing. Any idea what mod could cause it ?

 

I tried disabling SavrenX Building And Interiors but didn't work.

 

Here is a screenshot and here is my mod list :

0 0 Fallout4.esm

1 1 DLCRobot.esm

2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm

3 3 DLCCoast.esm

4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm

5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm

6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm

7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp

254 FE 0 AWHD4KFull.esl

254 FE 1 KCI.esl

8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm

9 9 NAC.esm

10 a SimSettlements.esm

254 FE 2 SavrenX HD DLC Armor and Clothes.esp

254 FE 3 SavrenX HD Vanilla Armor.esp

254 FE 4 SavrenX HD Vanilla Clothes Optimized.esp

254 FE 5 SavrenXFoodAndFoodware.esp

254 FE 6 SavrenXHD1KBuildingAndInterior.esp

254 FE 7 SavrenXHDSettlementAndSetDressing.esp

254 FE 8 SavrenXPropsAndJunk.esp

254 FE 9 SavrenXSynthHD.esp

11 b ClassicGhoulRace.esp

12 c CGR - Nuka World.esp

13 d ClassicBehemoth.esp

14 e Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp

15 f Craftable Armor Size.esp

16 10 dD-Enhanced Blood.esp

17 11 fo3friedghouls.esp

18 12 Guards.esp

19 13 TrueGrass.esp

20 14 Insignificant Object Remover.esp

21 15 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp

22 16 NAC-FarHarbor.esp

23 17 NAC-NukaWorld.esp

24 18 Randomized DC Guard Outfits.esp

25 19 RAW INPUT.esp

26 1a strongheight.esp

254 FE a Tom Sprint.esp

27 1b Leaders Of The Commonwealth.esp

28 1c ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp

29 1d More detailed perk description dlc version.esp

30 1e GlowingSeaEXPANDED.esp

31 1f More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp

32 20 More Where That Came From - Classic.esp

33 21 Fo4FI_FPS_fix.esp

Edited June 26, 2020 by Kovenicus

[Kovenicus]

Ok so after disabling everything and enabling the mods progressively I found out the issue comes from Fo4FI FPS Fix.

If someone knows why, I would gladly have a help, otherwise I won't bother trying to fix and will simply uninstall the mod.

Sorry for the useless topic.

[JimmyRJump]

Any FPS fix mod tampers with pre-combines. Pre-combines are a setting in the game's ini file that make some textures like houses one whole as opposed to using the separate objects like walls, roofs, doors, wondows, etc. Making one whole of these textures alleviates the strain on the GPU because of less objects having to be rendered. Scrap mods do the opposite and break down large objects into their smaller components so that you can selectively scrap.

 

The problems start when you have several mods that try to do the same thing, or when pre-culling is involved. Pre-culling is loading textures into the RAM so that they are at the ready when they need to be rendered. When scrapping items that normally can't be scrapped, the pre-culling gets screwy because the game tries to render stuff that's no longer there. Since a game doesn't load what's behind an object -to save on resources- the object that wants to get rendered will flicker in and out of view, showing a hole in the game where the scrapped object used to be because what's underneath the scrapped object is infinity.

 

In your case, it could be you need to sort your load order and get the FPS mod to load last or first after the esm plugs.

[HeyYou]

The mod author recommends that one load dead last, right where it is in your load order. Seems that a selection of folks have issues with that though, and experience the same thing. Are you by any chance running an AMD video card?

[Kovenicus]

The mod author recommends that one load dead last, right where it is in your load order. Seems that a selection of folks have issues with that though, and experience the same thing. Are you by any chance running an AMD video card?

 

Yup, it's an AMD.

 

 

Any FPS fix mod tampers with pre-combines. Pre-combines are a setting in the game's ini file that make some textures like houses one whole as opposed to using the separate objects like walls, roofs, doors, wondows, etc. Making one whole of these textures alleviates the strain on the GPU because of less objects having to be rendered. Scrap mods do the opposite and break down large objects into their smaller components so that you can selectively scrap.

 

The problems start when you have several mods that try to do the same thing, or when pre-culling is involved. Pre-culling is loading textures into the RAM so that they are at the ready when they need to be rendered. When scrapping items that normally can't be scrapped, the pre-culling gets screwy because the game tries to render stuff that's no longer there. Since a game doesn't load what's behind an object -to save on resources- the object that wants to get rendered will flicker in and out of view, showing a hole in the game where the scrapped object used to be because what's underneath the scrapped object is infinity.

 

In your case, it could be you need to sort your load order and get the FPS mod to load last or first after the esm plugs.

 

Thank you for the little explanation ! As @HeyYou said, the author hardly recommend to load it last and that's what I did (LOOT would place it higher though)

Edited June 26, 2020 by Kovenicus

[HeyYou]

Might experiment with older/newer drivers for your vid card, and see if it makes any difference.

[Kovenicus]

Might experiment with older/newer drivers for your vid card, and see if it makes any difference.

 

I'm experiencing bigger issues on my computer that I'm currently trying to fix because of my vid card drivers so for now I won't really look into it, but thank you for your answer. I appreciate it.

Edited June 27, 2020 by Kovenicus

[Joporai124]

Try loading all your mods in FO4Edit and then use the Apply Filter for Conflicts Option As Shown Here. I had this same problem and found that Another Green Mod was conflicting with the FPS fix and I fixed it by putting the FPS Fix esp above Another Green mod esp in my load order.

[jackdanniels]

add this line in fallout4Custom.ini:

[General]

bUseCombinedObjects=0

bUsePreculledObjects=1

Edited January 4, 2021 by jackdanniels

[Paulixs]

2 building in starlight invisible, only fix so far is to not use "cleaner_lived-in_settlements" but i want this mod, how can i fix?