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I am not an expert at modding nor completely new, but for the love of God I am not able to figure out what I am doing wrong. I use both Vortex and Mod Organizer 2 in which my main downloading manager would be vortex while I change the load order in MO2 and initiate the game from there. Still I am unable to figure out what I am doing wrong and why it refuses to start.

I grabbed the load order from vortex, but I had organized it differently in M02. Still etiher way I am unsuccessful, and even ticking off mods going down the list in MO2 I am unsuccessful. Please help:

 

# Automatically generated by Vortex

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
RigmorCyrodiil - Sounds.esm
RigmorCyrodiil - Textures.esm
Heels Sound.esm
BSAssets.esm
BSHeartland.esm
RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
SMSkyrim.esp
arnima.esm
FarmhouseChimneys.esp
RigmorCyrodiil.esm
BS_DLC_patch.esp
Campfire.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
Falskaar.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
Vigilant.esm
FlowerGirls SE.esm
FlowerGirls SE Threesome Fix.esl
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
FISS.esp
SexLab.esm
SkyUI_SE.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp
Obsidian Weathers.esp
Laundry.esp
Immersive Wenches.esp
Bee Hives.esp
SimpleOutfitManager.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
Viking Hairstyle.esp
MoW Balgruuf.esp
MoW Belethor.esp
MoW Benor.esp
MoW Brill.esp
MoW Brunwulf.esp
MoW Cosnach.esp
MoW Derkeethus.esp
MoW Eltrys.esp
MoW Emperor Titus Mede ii.esp
MoW Enthir.esp
MoW Erikur.esp
MoW Esbern.esp
MoW Ghorbash.esp
MoW Golldir.esp
MoW Hadvar.esp
MoW Hrongar.esp
MoW Idolaf.esp
MoW Jon.esp
MoW Kodlak.esp
MoW Lokir.esp
MoW Madanach.esp
MoW Marcurio.esp
MoW Neloth.esp
MoW Olfrid.esp
MoW Quintus.esp
MoW Ralof.esp
MoW Roggi.esp
MoW Runil.esp
MoW Sheogorath.esp
MoW Skjor.esp
MoW Torvar.esp
MoW Tullius.esp
MoW Veezara.esp
MoW Vilkas.esp
MoW Ysgramor.esp
NosEarringsInti.esp
HN66_Earrings.esp
Fumofumo's Earrings.esp
RutahTattooPack SE.esp
MiniBikini.esp
PeroPeroArmorPackSE.esp
Keep It Clean - Bruma patch.esp
Keep It Clean - Falskaar patch.esp
WeightlessOV_MERGED.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
Skyplug.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
MoW Belrand.esp
MoW Marshes.esp
MoW Stenvar.esp
MoW Vignar.esp
MoW Vorstag.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
FireGiant.esp
CAMP.esp
Elemental Destruction.esp
Sex Scene Framework.esp
Secret Lives.esp
MoW Ulfric.esp
MoW Galmar.esp
Ambriel.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
RigmorCyrodiil_DLC01.esp
Vigilant Voiced.esp
skyBirds_SSE.esp
MoW Brynjolf.esp
MoW Falk.esp
MoW Farkas.esp
RomanceOfNPCs.esp
MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
hearthfireextended.esp
JK's Dragonsreach.esp
YurianaWench.esp
OneWithNature.esp
HF_Lakeview_AvantGarden_EX.esp
Keep It Clean.esp
JKs Skyrim_No Snow Under the Roof_Patch.esp
Inigo.esp
Flower Girls NPC Relationships.esp
JKs Skyrim - Farmhouse Chimneys Patch.esp
JK's Sleeping Giant Inn.esp
JK's The Bannered Mare.esp
MistySkye.esp
SummerSkyrim.esp
RiverwoodKeep.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Jewel Of Solstheim.esp
PAN_NPCs_DB.esp
MoW Ralis.esp
MoW Storn.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
MainlandStalhrim.esp
Better Bleak Falls Barrow.esp
RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenuSE.esp
KSHairdosSMP.esp
KSWigsSMP.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Maevan2EyeBrows.esp
YOT - Keep it Clean.esp
Keep it Clean - Hunterborn Soaps Patch.esp
Agatha Follower.esp
[COCO]ahegao_tshirt.esp
[COCO]Student_Uniform.esp
[COCO]wedding_2B.esp
InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
Gray Fox Flora Overhaul.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
SMSkyrim - TexturePack_Max.esp
FlowerGirls SE - Maids II Deception.esp
SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp
Flower Girls NPC Overhaul.esp
JK's Arcadia's Cauldron.esp
Inhumans - A Marvel Mod.esp
MoW Erandur.esp
MoW Erik.esp
Tiikeli.esp
RigmorCyrodiilPatch.esp
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
Immersive Wenches -Enslaved Wenches patch-.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp
Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp
FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp
Deadly Wenches.esp
BecomeABard.esp
Immersive Wenches -Become a Bard- Patch.esp
CiceroFemaleSE.esp
FlowerGirls SE - Cicero.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp
SamuraiBlades.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
ForgottenCityBruma.esp
HottIldari.esp
Better Harvesting.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - Shop.esp
CAMP Users.esp
doxie.esp
Cannabis Skyrim SE.esp
JKs The Drunken Huntsman.esp
JK's Sleeping Giant Inn KIC Patch Immersive.esp
JK's Sleeping Giant Inn KIC Patch.esp
AmorousAdventuresPlus.esp
SamuraiBladesWeapons.esp
EOMSIC_YunsolCustomVoiceFollower.esp
mihailmountainlion.esp
No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp
mihailgiantyoungling.esp
JK's Warmaiden's.esp
EK_UnusualApplications.esp
JK's SkyHaven Forge.esp
Edhildils Giant Families.esp
Aymarandfriends.esp
HFE-BeeHives-Patch.esp
FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar.esp
FarmhouseChimneysWyrmstooth.esp
JKs Dragonsreach - Immersive Wenches Patch.esp
JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp
JKs Arcadias Cauldron - USSEP Patch.esp
MoonlightTalesMCM.esp
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
BD Armor and clothes replacer.esp
MoW Miraak.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
3BBB.esp
CBBE.esp
DWKaPoTunRace.esp
DWKaPoTunRaceCompatibilityADDON.esp
Facelight.esp
JKs Drunken Huntsman - USSEP Patch.esp
JKs_Drunken_Huntsman_-_Immersive_Wenches_Patch.esp
JumpingBonus.esp
FNISspells.esp
FNIS.esp
RaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
RaceMenuHH.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
buildingmaterialsgodchest.esp
HFE-CRF-Patch.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
moonpath.esp
Buster - Johnskyrim.esp
Kynreeve Armor.esp
MistysHairSalon.esp
Gray Fox Cowl - Alternative Start.esp
FGCumEffect.esp
Flower Girls NPC Overhaul - KS Hairdos Patch.esp
Sex Scene Framework - JK's Dragonsreach Patch.esp
WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest MCM.esp
SummerSkies.esp
HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp
Obsidian Watermult Fix.esp
InstantMining.esp
[COCO]LaceBody.esp
[COCO]ms_shirt.esp
[COCO]Lingerie.esp
[COCO]BloomYouth.esp
Sekiro-like.esp
TKDodge.esp
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
PrinceandPauper.esp
RSChildren.esp
Prince and the Pauper SE - RS Children Patch.esp
RealisticRSChildren.esp
RRSC-Prince&Pauper-Patch.esp
adoptAventusAretino.esp
RRSC-AdoptAventus-Patch.esp
adoptAventusAretino_PrinceandPauperRS.esp
RRSC-CRF-Patch.esp
PnP - HFMultiKid Patch.esp
mihailchildrentoys.esp
DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
DrSKnapsacks.esp
Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp
Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp
GRIM ElfMed.esp
Elvenia.esp
IdiotElfFollowerSE.esp
LazyHeels.esp
Potions.esp
FasterHorses.esp
Animallica.esp
goodBoy.esp
LZA Giants Are People Too SSE.esp
KJ Tattoos 4K.esp
NosPiercedEarsAll.esp
TW3Eyes.esp
Khajiit_Eyes_Extended.esp
Elemental Eyes.esp
Beards.esp
HairsBeastRace - Extended Plus - Replacer.esp
SVBeardsSE.esp
TAotB - New Facial Hairs.esp
RM_HennaOverlay.esp
Merchant Stock - All in One.esp
YourMarketStall.esp
more plants all extra.esp
planters.esp
Rifle.esp
ShakeIt!.esp
Dance for Septims.esp
KhajiitMane.esp
SolstheimMudcrabs.esp
Cliffracers_Solstheim_SSE.esp
SkaalFishingCamp.esp
SolstheimLighthouse.esp
Karinda.esp
Undriel_Raven_of_RavenRock.esp
WetFunction.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
R.B Serana Follower.esp
Skill Config.esp
Kynreeve - Daedric Replacer.esp
Daring Kynreeve Armor.esp
corvussword.esp
MoW Mercer.esp
KvCrystalSword.esp
50 More Perk Points.esp
Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp
Ace Blood Magic SE.esp
GomaPeroLand.esp
ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp
NeoHorus.esp
RiverwoodKeepUSSEP.esp
NeoInpouArmour.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
PathOfSorcery.esp
Elemental Destruction - Ordinator Patch.esp
PoS Elemental Destruction Patch SE.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
Rigmor.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
JKs Dragonsreach - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp
PCE - JKs Dragonsreach Patch.esp
JKs Dragonsreach - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
JKs Belethors General Goods - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
JKs Warmaidens - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
JKs Bannered Mare - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
JK's Sleeping Giant Inn ICAIO Patch.esp
JKs Drunken Huntsman - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
Hunters Not Bandits.esp
nwsFollowerFramework.esp
nwsFF_NoTeamMagicDamage.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo WaterColor - Keep It Clean.esp
Underwater Visibility Fix - RW2.esp
RW2 Better Watercolor - Tropical.esp
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MO2 and Vortex should not be used together. The only mod manager that can be used with other mod managers is Wrye Bash and that is when it is used solely for building a bashed patch. Only ever use one mod manager to download, install and manage load order and file priority.

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The nature of when the game crashes will determine the cause.

 

 

if the game refuses to launch then it will be because of either of these causes below:

 

1. Missing/Disabled or Corrupted Skyrim Master File (Skyrim.ESM) - very likely this is the cause right here, since you are running 2 mod managers, they are most likely conflicting and thus disabling this file.

 

1a. Solution: Enable Skyrim.ESM or if its already enabled and skyrim is still refusing to launch, then Open Steam, Right Click on Skyrim, click on Local Data, *Verify Integrity of Game Cache* to repair it, via a re download of the Skyrim Master File(s)

 

 

2. Outdated Skse Plugin(s) for the latest version of Skse - if true, a message box will popup when launching skse indicating what plugin(s) is older then the current version of SKSE you are using

 

2a. Solution: Update your Skse Plugins.

 

 

if the game crashes upon selecting a new game or continue game:

 

1. Missing or Disabled Master File(s) for any of your mods.

 

1a. Solution: Download and Run LOOT (Load Order Optimization Tool), it will show you Any Errors With Mods, Any Major Problems with mods, and it will mention any mod(s) that is missing a master file(s). plus it can be used to sort your load order, giving you a good baseline for a correct load order, which is incredibly important. without a correct load order, you are going to have a bad time.

 

1b. for the purpose of this solution, you want LOOT for its ability to mention missing master files for any of your mods. then likewise download all require master files, and the problem will be solved. if this is the cause.

 

 

If the game Crashes before options appear (so it launches, you get a black screen, and then game CTD just before Options appear, such as new game):

 

1. Missing or Corrupted Localization Strings.

 

2a. Solution: Same as the Solution for Repairing Skyrim Master Files.

 

 

But yea as the above posts have said, only run 1 Mod Manager. and if you do not have it already, get LOOT: https://loot.github.io <-- it will make your modding life so much better. its an essential tool that every modder should have. regardless of the automated load order sorting, its especially useful for its mod checking, that will save a lot of time, and will lead into a much more stable game/ less error prone game, when you have corrected the issues it presents. such as disabled references, missing master files, and downloading any patches your mods might need. etc etc.

Edited by G4M3W1NN3R
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