Nerevar vs Hero of Kvatch vs Dovakhiin

[NightmarePhantom]

According to legend, story, and lore, who would win in an all out battle royale? Each hero would be the strongest they could be by the end of their respective storylines (so the CoC before becoming the Mad God) Edited April 6, 2013 by NightmarePhantom

[Tidus44]

Between Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim, I feel that the "hero" least likely to be able to accomplish anything of any heroic consequence is the Dovahkiin.

 

In Morrowind the hero had to think and adapt and figure things out. Some pretty awesome creatures and enemies to fight as well. In Morrowind no hero who wasn't able to quickly adapt and gain some skills would survive.

 

Oblivion, I think of the first time entering that Oblivion gate at Kvatch – with no idea of what to expect and then the subsequent worlds of Oblivion and getting gates open and figuring out how to get to the right tower and fighting through levels of capable and deadly enemies in the dark.

Then that first time opening that Great Gate and keeping Martin alive and with only 15 minutes to stop the siege engine with scamps, clannfear, daedroths and dremora hurling death at you the whole way. No way a non-hero is going to survive that.

 

Morrowind and Oblivion made your PC a hero, and a capable one who had the skills and knowledge and tools to deal with anything that any demon or mad man could throw at them. They worked hard and earned their position as "hero" by overcoming adversity.

 

Skyrim….Meh... Yeah the Dovahkiin can shout (even though it isn't anything learned, it's a gift and gained with no effort) and killed some old raggedy dragon with three actual heroes helping and sort of has some skills in step and fetch if someone tells him(her) what to do and where to go and what to get.

 

To me the Dovahkiin is the least likely to be prepared for a challenge and has the least amount of talent or skills required to survive a real fight.

 

I figure the Nerevarine or the Champion of Cyrodiil could show up in their pyjamas after a hard night of partying and use the Dovahkiin as a bar mop, wring him out and have a bit of the hair of the dog before going back to bed and not even break a sweat doing it.

Edited April 5, 2013 by Tidus44

[Tidus44]

Weird - double posted. Edited April 5, 2013 by Tidus44

[gsmanners]

In a battle royale style fight, what would most likely happen is that they would all vaporize each other, instantly.

 

If the CoC got the drop on the other two, he would most likely rip out the intestines of the other two and skip rope with them.

 

If Dragonborn got the drop on the other two, he would most likely fusrohdah them off a cliff.

 

I'm not too sure about the Nerevarine.

[Jaradin]

What are the circumstances? Are the heroes based on their game period or by the period of Skyrim? Because if the latter, The Hero of Kvatch / Champion of Cyrodiil's a freakin' Mad God by then. And Sheogorath, old or new, would just drop them both from a high altitude and laugh about it when their bodies break against the rocks.

[sisterof]

If the Hero of Kvatch became the Mad God, then yes, he'd kick ass all around. Mine didn't, though, it was a different character (I would have done it differently if I replayed, though). Without the Shivering Islands storyline, the Hero of Kvatch is the most useless of them in terms of power - he's just Martin's sidekick. But he's very heroic, as someone pointed out, by his sheer bravery and by achieving everything with nothing but a mortal's abilities.

The Nerevarine was quite heroic too, and in my opinion far more intelligent/prepared than the other two. He was a king and warchief reborn, loved by his people.

The Dovahkiin is by far the most powerful of them (minus Shivering Islands), but he has the issue of not having to work much for all that strength. He's born awesome, and that's much less heroic. He gets into the world, has the Thu'um instinctively, and fulfills a prophecy without question. He can be strong in battle without the Voice, but the fact that he had to work so little for his abilities make him just the lucky dude the Gods smiled upon.

So, in terms of power, Mad God (optional) > Dovahkiin > Nerevarine > Hero of Kvatch (without SI). In terms of heroism, Hero of Kvatch > Nerevarine > Dovahkiin. In terms of intelligence/wisdom, the Nerevarine by far, while the two others probably rank the same.

[Dovahkiin234]

What are the circumstances? Are the heroes based on their game period or by the period of Skyrim? Because if the latter, The Hero of Kvatch / Champion of Cyrodiil's a freakin' Mad God by then. And Sheogorath, old or new, would just drop them both from a high altitude and laugh about it when their bodies break against the rocks.

 

Did you take into account the 'Become Ethereral' Shout?

[TheLoreSeeker]

 

What are the circumstances? Are the heroes based on their game period or by the period of Skyrim? Because if the latter, The Hero of Kvatch / Champion of Cyrodiil's a freakin' Mad God by then. And Sheogorath, old or new, would just drop them both from a high altitude and laugh about it when their bodies break against the rocks.

 

Did you take into account the 'Become Ethereral' Shout?

or Odahving? He could just summon him to pick him up.

[Jaradin]

 

 

What are the circumstances? Are the heroes based on their game period or by the period of Skyrim? Because if the latter, The Hero of Kvatch / Champion of Cyrodiil's a freakin' Mad God by then. And Sheogorath, old or new, would just drop them both from a high altitude and laugh about it when their bodies break against the rocks.

 

Did you take into account the 'Become Ethereral' Shout?

or Odahving? He could just summon him to pick him up.

 

Can't shout in mid-air. :biggrin:

Edited April 6, 2013 by Jaradin

[Kayyyleb]

 

 

 

What are the circumstances? Are the heroes based on their game period or by the period of Skyrim? Because if the latter, The Hero of Kvatch / Champion of Cyrodiil's a freakin' Mad God by then. And Sheogorath, old or new, would just drop them both from a high altitude and laugh about it when their bodies break against the rocks.

 

Did you take into account the 'Become Ethereral' Shout?

or Odahving? He could just summon him to pick him up.

 

Can't shout in mid-air. :biggrin:

Usually the ONLY thing people do when falling to their death is scream their lungs out (or at least that's what I'd be doing). So if the Dovahkiin has enough sense about him mid-fall to think of using that shout then yeah...he's good to go.