Shieldmaid Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) I have spent all day trying to understand and fix what has gone wrong with my game, but it is time for me to accept this is just beyond my (admittedly minimal) expertise. I just rescued Preston and the settlers from Concord, but found to my dismay I cannot load any saves starting from the moment I reenter Sanctuary with the group. The game does not crash when entering Sanctuary. Only when loading a save IN Sanctuary. I have tried everything I could think of. My load order is sorted with Loot, and then adjusted according to what information I can find in read-me's and mod pages. I have cleaned the mods in FO4Edit with Loot's guidance. I played with the load order a bit to try and get it to work. I have cleaned my save files with resaver. I have created a merge patch with FO4Edit. I disabled mods that I suspected could be causing the issue and tested the game without them one at a time, including Increased Build Limit Enhanced 4K, Repaired Sanctuary Roofs, Scrap Everything, Better Sandbox Expansion (I really thought that was gonna be the one, but nope!), and Better Settlers. Nothing. I am at my absolute wits end. This is my last desperate attempt before uninstalling everything, starting a new game, and reintroducing the mods in batches until I find the culprit. Here's my load order. Is there anything obvious that I'm doing wrong? Thanks to anyone for any help you can provide.(Also, not sure if this is relevant, but I have a decent PC/Monitor, and have not had problems with framerate up to this point. 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Call -Feed Dogmeat.espQuazRadioModelReplacer.espTHBrows.espUncappedSettlementSurplus.espAboutFallout.espBrainwashing.espTrue-Frags_v1-2_MidDmg_NoKnockdown_MidRange_NukaDLC.espdinoshelf.espLooksMenu.espCarryWeight300.espCarryWeight25Strength.espPower_Armors_Redone.espArmorsmith Extended.espBetterModDescriptionsAE.espArmorsmith WestTek Night & Thermal Vision addon.espProvisionerBackPack.espDX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp1nivDX Courser X-92 Power Suit Male.espNukaRadBans.esp[PPE] Armoursmith Extended + Fashionable Valentine [Patch].espEli Armor Compendium AE Patch.espUnique NPCs.espLooksMenu Customization Compendium.espUnique NPCs FarHarbor.espUnique NPCs_SpecialSettlers_NoSuperMutants.espW.A.T.Minutemen.espUnique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters.espUnique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters - AE Patch.espMore Realistic Cats.espBetterSettlers.espBetterSettlersMortalPack.espBetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.espDeeper Voice For Preston - Type A2.espScrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.espRepaired Roofs.espDD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp Edited May 4, 2021 by Shieldmaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monesq Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 It is frustrating when no one answers, but more often than not, that means that they have no idea. I don't. Have you tried loading a save outside of the triangle of death (Red Rocket, Sanctuary and Abernathy Farm)? Does the game still not allow you to load a save? If it does (at this point, I doubt it as your saves have probably been corrupted) you know it has to do with something affecting the unholy Trinity and I would start looking at mods that have any impact in Sanctuary, Red Rocket and Abernathy Farm. I did not count out all your mods, but there are a lot of them. If you are uninstalling mods to see if that uninstall helps with the save where you had the problem with saving, that will more than likely not prove fruitful. I have not had much luck (actually any) with Resaver. By removing mods and trying out to load a save with that mod missing, you have probably corrupted your save. The worse thing about that is you may not realize you have messed up your saves until later in the game when the game no longer runs at all. I did notice that you have Functional Displays. I have never used that mod so this is second-hand, but I have read several posts that the mod can mess up your game. Another idea (not enough detail was given in your query so I am grasping at straws), have you checked your ini files to see that they recognize where your save games are located?? When you tried to load any saves, was the option greyed out? If so, the ini may not be properly pointing to the location of your saved files. The save file location is in the Fallout.ini file usually located in your C:\Users\username\Documents\My Games\Fallout4. Open that file up with Notepad ++ or your standard notepad program and look for SLocalSavePath=Saves\?????\ where the question marks are the name of the directory. The save files should be in the same directory as the ini files for the game. Assuming that they are, and your Fallout4.ini file does not have the line above or the correct directory, then replace the question marks above the the file name, save the file, and try to relaunch the game. I would also comment that even if this works, your save files may already be corrupted, so I would: 1. Restart the game with all your mods (assuming the only problem was the game could not find the save directory) and have fun. 2. Restart the game as vanilla save the useless Preston and save the game. At that point, I would make two copies of that save, one for experimentation to find your culprit and the other just in case you accidentally save the game when experimenting. Once you have found the offending mod or mods, the use the clean save and load your mods (assuming that they can be enabled after game start). 3. You can try to enable all your mods in the experimentation save and see if that full mod list is causing any issues. If the issues continue, do not save that game, toggle the console and type qqq and the game will end without saving) and disable 1/2 of your mods. Rinse and repeat until you have narrowed down the offending mod. That's all I got man (used in the generic filial sense). Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Robot Home Defence.esmSturgesEdit.19FDA.espMamaMurphyEdit.19FD8.espJunFace.19FDB.espSettlementGarageSale.espSettlement_Markers.esp I would also be trying those.... and I didn't even make it all the way thru your load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monesq Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 I too have had issues with Settlement Home Defense, not sure about the other mods, I did notice the Great Green Jewel mod. I have heard some good things about it but am unaware if it has been updated or needs an update. I know there were some issues raised and the MA moved the mod off of Nexus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythor Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 While it might not be the cause of your particular problem, Functional Displays is known to cause CTDs. There's a possible fix in the comments (link) that is worth trying to see if that fixes your crashing. Otherwise... yeah, you have too many mods for anyone to realistically be able to help you. Good luck. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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