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Ok so to start off with my entire Load Order is cleaned

 

*Apologies for not being able to figure out how to use Spoiler Tags in advance..*

 

My Load Order : 

 

  0  0     Fallout4.esm
  1  1     DLCRobot.esm
  2  2     DLCworkshop01.esm
  3  3     DLCCoast.esm
  4  4     DLCworkshop02.esm
  5  5     DLCworkshop03.esm
  6  6     DLCNukaWorld.esm
  7  7     DLCUltraHighResolution.esm
254 FE   0 ccbgsfo4019-chinesestealtharmor.esl
254 FE   1 ccbgsfo4038-horsearmor.esl
254 FE   2 ccbgsfo4044-hellfirepowerarmor.esl
254 FE   3 ccfsvfo4003-slocum.esl
254 FE   4 ccgcafo4003-factionws03bos.esl
254 FE   5 ccgcafo4009-factionws09mm.esl
254 FE   6 ccgcafo4010-factionws10rr.esl
254 FE   7 ccgcafo4012-factionas01acat.esl
254 FE   8 ccgcafo4013-factionas02bos.esl
254 FE   9 ccgcafo4018-factionas07mm.esl
254 FE   a ccgcafo4023-factionas12army.esl
254 FE   b ccbgsfo4050-dgbcoll.esl
254 FE   c ccbgsfo4058-dglabc.esl
254 FE   d ccbgsfo4062-pippat.esl
  8  8     cczsef04001-bhouse.esm
254 FE   e ccbgsfo4063-papat.esl
254 FE   f ccacxfo4001-vsuit.esl
  9  9     Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
254 FE  10 CROSS_Wasteland_Ronin.esl
 10  a     ArmorKeywords.esm
254 FE  11 CanarySaveFileMonitor.esl
 11  b     Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esm
254 FE  12 Settler Sandbox Overhaul.esl
 12  c     WorkshopFramework.esm
 13  d     SimSettlements.esm
 14  e     PANPC.esm
 15  f     Fo4FI_FPS_fix.esp
 16 10     WOTC.esp
 17 11     BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
 18 12     3DNPC_FO4Settler_SimSettlements.esp
 19 13     Insignificant Object Remover.esp
 20 14     Max Performance - All Interiors - All DLC.esp
 21 15     NukaWorldPlus.esp
 22 16     MojaveImports.esp
254 FE  13 Fog Remover II (AIO) Recommended.esp
 23 17     LightsDontCastShadows.esp
 24 18     UnlockedTrailersProject[UTP]v2.0.esp
 25 19     SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearTwo.esp
 26 1a     W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
 27 1b     dD-Action Ragdoll Force.esp
 28 1c     Vivid Waters.esp
 29 1d     MilitarizedMinutemen.esp
 30 1e     UniqueUniques.esp
 31 1f     UltracitePA.esp
 32 20     Archimedes-II.esp
 33 21     BeastWhisperer.esp
 34 22     th1nkEyebot.esp
 35 23     th1nkEyeBot-FarHarbor.esp
 36 24     th1nkEyeBot-NukaWorld.esp
 37 25     th1nkEyeBot-DLC03DLC04Addon.esp
 38 26     SimSettlements_CityPlanPack_ContestEntries_Season2.esp
 39 27     SimSettlements_CityPlanContest.esp
 40 28     CompanionAccuracy.esp
 41 29     CurieAccuracy.esp
 42 2a     DanseAccuracy.esp
 43 2b     F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
 44 2c     M1Garand.esp
 45 2d     VarmintRifle.esp
 46 2e     EAMR.esp
 47 2f     dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
 48 30     dD - Small Splatter Size.esp
 49 31     Give Me That Bottle.esp
 50 32     LongerPowerLines3x.esp
 51 33     More Realistic Cats.esp
 52 34     ManufacturingExtended.esp
 53 35     M1Garand - AWKCR.esp
 54 36     No Aggro Impact Landing.esp
 55 37     PA-Quick Animations.esp
 56 38     Realistic_conversations.esp
 57 39     Realistic Roads - Fade.esp
 58 3a     Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
 59 3b     RobotAccuracy.esp
 60 3c     SimSettlements_CityPlanPack_ContestEntries.esp
 61 3d     SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
 62 3e     SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearThree.esp
 63 3f     SurvivalOptions.esp
 64 40     The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
 65 41     VarmintRifle - AWKCR.esp
 66 42     EvilViking13_MinutemenMorale.esp
 67 43     Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
 68 44     EvilViking13_WastelandWalls.esp
 69 45     Better Explosives - Grenade Frequency 30.esp
 70 46     Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
 71 47     Better Explosives.esp
 72 48     BE_Enhanced Grenades.esp
 73 49     Vivid Weathers - Natural Bright.esp
 74 4a     Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
254 FE  14 CROSS_CoA.esp
254 FE  15 CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp
254 FE  16 CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
 75 4b     LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp
 76 4c     ConcreteSledgehammer.esp
 77 4d     DP_CaravanShotgun.esp
 78 4e     CrudeBlowback.esp
 79 4f     CrudeBlowback - AWKCR.esp
 80 50     ConcreteSledgehammer-AWKCR.esp
 81 51     FCOM.esp
 82 52     HandmadeRevolver.esp
 83 53     HandmadeRevolver - AWKCR.esp
 84 54     LeeEnfieldNo4MkI - VIS&AWKCR.esp
254 FE  17 CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp
 85 55     ProvisionerUniform.esp
 86 56     Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp
 87 57     Publick Occurrences Expanded.esp
 88 58     WorkshopPlus.esp
 89 59     Armorsmith Extended.esp
 90 5a     SuperMutantRedux.esp
 91 5b     SuperMutantRedux_ArmorSmithExtended.esp
 92 5c     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 93 5d     Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
 
 
Edit ; I forgot to Add this issue only effects my game in the Boston Downtown area, Which I'm aware has many issues in general with FPS however I'm unsure what else to try.
 
I've Naturally tried setting settings Lower,ENBBoost,Boston Area FPS related Fixes and sadly none of these have worked. Stability DID increase when I removed a grass mod *not very script heavy granted.*
But I'm not at a loss of what else to Try. Naturally I'm aware removing mods during a play through is not a Good idea and I have been modding games for a decent long time but this issue has honestly alluded me for a fix. So Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
 
 
Once Again, sorry for not knowing how to use Spoiler tags I'm bad at Forums.

Edited by robeagle, 07 July 2020 - 01:57 PM.


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What hardware are you running the game on?



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What hardware are you running the game on?

 

i5 9th Gen

2060s RTX , 16gb 3200mhz DDR4.

All of which with Optimised cooling setup of course.

..(I knew I forgot to list something..hardware specs..always the hardware specs.)

 

Might also be worth knowing that I have an Unlocked CPU, so Overclock-able etc, Whilst I doubt that would cause an issue this is a Bethesda game.


Edited by robeagle, 07 July 2020 - 08:57 PM.


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From a video i watched by JuiceHead, he said the BostonFPSFixAIO kinda works but not completely. video near url time here: https://youtu.be/nFf2kRXQmdM?t=753 You can try disabling that and see if that does anything.

 

I didn't see any, add more npcs combat mods in your mod list, though if you do have one that could also be the culprit. If you haven't downloaded the High FPS Physics Fix (https://www.nexusmod...out4/mods/44798) that could help with your frames as well.



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From a video i watched by JuiceHead, he said the BostonFPSFixAIO kinda works but not completely. video near url time here: https://youtu.be/nFf2kRXQmdM?t=753 You can try disabling that and see if that does anything.

 

I didn't see any, add more npcs combat mods in your mod list, though if you do have one that could also be the culprit. If you haven't downloaded the High FPS Physics Fix (https://www.nexusmod...out4/mods/44798) that could help with your frames as well.

I Do have War of The Commonwealth, could that be the issue perhaps? also I will try that!



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I Do have War of The Commonwealth, could that be the issue perhaps? also I will try that!

 

 

It could be, WotC can be a pretty heavy performance mod since it can spawn a lot of npcs fighting each other. The game and your computer have to handle all the effects from the fighting, ragdolls, etc... if that physics fix or disabling the BostonFPSFIx esp doesn't help improve you FPS, then try disabling that as well. If you are really determined to have a kind of warzone like feel, there are other mods besides WotC that can somewhat offer the same experience, but with less drop in performance.

 

Also if you haven't already, see if you need to update your video card as well.



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hardware is ok but it depends also on the resolution you play. 1080p should be no problem. 2k or even 3 or 4k with ultra settings may cause low framerates depending on your ini settings. 16 gb ram is the minimum you need with ultra settings. if you encounter stutter avoid to run any win process not needed to save ram or reduce graphics details   or upgrade to 32gb ram to be save. you can check ram utilization with task manager in background and vram usage with nvidia inspector



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hardware is ok but it depends also on the resolution you play. 1080p should be no problem. 2k or even 3 or 4k with ultra settings may cause low framerates depending on your ini settings. 16 gb ram is the minimum you need with ultra settings. if you encounter stutter avoid to run any win process not needed to save ram or reduce graphics details   or upgrade to 32gb ram to be save. you can check ram utilization with task manager in background and vram usage with nvidia inspector

 

Good shout on the Vram checks I forget about that often! Running at 1080p So highly doubt thats the issue. I also turned down some Settings in the ini file in an attempt to preserve some framerate. 
My Ram however is performing quite well all things considered (70% which is around what I Expected.) 

I religiously check my GPU Drivers for updates so also as it should be.
CPU hits around 34% (Naturally not being used as much as GPU)

Vram in use is around 5gb, Whilst testing to see the issues (AFTER installing the FPS related mods that Jables mentioned) I received what appeared to be an FPS Related CTD, however instead of CTD it froze and then unfroze and I was able to continue playing. I'll see if this has completely fixed the problem or not but if it has that will be quite good since easy fix.
Will update once I've tested some more.
(Note ; I have not currently yet removed War of the Commonwealth,and whilst playing a WoTC event happened My FPS around that time went from 80fps in the Boston Downtown area To 50-60fps which was Granted a decent Drop however it was Stable.)
Shall update once I've tested some more.

 

Edit : I crashed after around 27 Minutes of Playing (Crashed as I exited the Station where you rescue Nick.) Makes me think its not FPS related.


Edited by robeagle, 08 July 2020 - 07:53 PM.


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Edit : I crashed after around 27 Minutes of Playing (Crashed as I exited the Station where you rescue Nick.) Makes me think its not FPS related.

 

Then my next suggestion would be to start a new game save, go to the area where you are having fps drop/ctd. If you are able to move around fine with the new game save then your old save may have some scripts that are conflicting that may be causing the crash. If the new save game also has the fps drop/ctd, then it maybe more likely that a mod is causing the issue. Note: this is kinda of a theory that I go off of myself that typically works for me for whenever I have a ctd in a area and I try to resolve it. I can't say it will help you but it is a possibility.

 

My other suggestion is to try troubleshooting and disabling one or a few .esp's at a time and reloading the game each time you disable a .esp and see if that works. Though doing this can be very time consuming, but could work. If you try this method I would suggest starting with the heavy mods first, then go to the less stressful mods



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Edit : I crashed after around 27 Minutes of Playing (Crashed as I exited the Station where you rescue Nick.) Makes me think its not FPS related.

 

Then my next suggestion would be to start a new game save, go to the area where you are having fps drop/ctd. If you are able to move around fine with the new game save then your old save may have some scripts that are conflicting that may be causing the crash. If the new save game also has the fps drop/ctd, then it maybe more likely that a mod is causing the issue. Note: this is kinda of a theory that I go off of myself that typically works for me for whenever I have a ctd in a area and I try to resolve it. I can't say it will help you but it is a possibility.

 

My other suggestion is to try troubleshooting and disabling one or a few .esp's at a time and reloading the game each time you disable a .esp and see if that works. Though doing this can be very time consuming, but could work. If you try this method I would suggest starting with the heavy mods first, then go to the less stressful mods

 

 

 

So Far, War of the Commonwealth is Surprisingly not the problem, As I just had a Crash during the Skinny Shootout after disabling it (tried re-enabling but same issue.)

I'm honestly not quite sure What mods could be causing an issue.

Edit ; I have read that people with Unlocked CPU's  (Such as mine) Have issues with Fallout 4, Perhaps this could be the problem?


Edited by robeagle, 09 July 2020 - 01:43 PM.






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