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MidbossVyers

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  1. Well, the Hero of Kvatch became Sheogorath, and pre-Hero of Kvatch Sheogorath was responsible for some political upheavals, such as with King Lyandir. Also, funny that you bring up leadership, as I don't think anyone has answered this before, but the Stormcloaks are led by a High King, the Empire is led by the Emperor, but who leads the Thalmor? A king, a president, a chairman?
  2. It's not a given, but it can be a common occurrence, depending on the circumstances. Also, the Dark Brotherhood are an organization of killers, but unlike the Thieves Guild, stealth is not a given. Just the killing. Heck, there was an orc assassin back in Oblivion's Dark Brotherhood who always wore heavy armor and used a 2-handed weapon. Yes, a lot of the bonuses can be achieved more easily with stealth, but you can be a revered member of the Brotherhood, just for the killing, not necessarily for the stealth (unlike the Thieves Guild). In the terms of the armor, the fact remains that it is better armor quality than the Imperial light armor. If not enchantments, then secret Brotherhood smithing techniques were used. Also, does the armor boost from the Shrouded full set count as an enchantment or special effect? Of course, this only applies to the armor because, as you say, robes provide no protection, but robes are for mages, but they are expected to know Mage Armor spells.
  3. "Unlikely occurrences" can literally determine the outcome of a battle. Wei lost the Battle of Chibi during the 3 Kingdoms period IRL history mostly due to the wind changing direction. In this game, you know how the Thieves Guild functions on Nocturnal's luck? How do you think that actually manifests? Also, stop saying that assassins can't fight directly. You're right. Some can't. Others can. If you've played "No More Heroes", technically, you're an assassin, but most of your fights are rather direct. Similarly, ninjas IRL history were technically spies and assassins. However, a lot of works have them fighting directly as well as through stealth. Also, there can be a lore explanation about why Brotherhood armor is better than Imperial light armor, such as enchantments and secret forging techniques known only by the Brotherhood.
  4. I recall back in Daggerfall that Brotherhood hideouts could literally just be normal houses with seemingly normal residents, some of whom were even children IIRC. Some of those "children" might be vampires, like Babette, but I'm guessing that a few of them were legitimately children. Getting a similar hideout may be difficult, but not impossible. Well, regardless of whether or not the Night Mother is omniscient, personal meetings still need to occur to get payment. Yes, the Empire could hire the Brotherhood. What's your point in that regard? Lucien ran the same risk as Astrid, in terms of recruitment standards. Corrupt members of organizations are still members of those organizations, but I do get your point in that that particular agent may not have been representing the organization as a whole.
  5. Also, every Imperial officer who ever went after the Dark Brotherhood, in either the Septim or Mede empires, has been turned into sashimi (Phillida and Maro, respectively). The Morag Tong responded to the Empire trying to hunt them down by retreating to Morrowind, where they have been accepted legally by tradition (although, given Adril Arano's comments, this may no longer hold true, either). Also, ironically, after the main Dark Brotherhood quest line, you can get hired by the Penitus Oculatus: http://uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Corrupt_Agent As for capturing whichever Brotherhood member shows up, I believe Amaund Motierre said that he's not stupid enough to betray the Brotherhood. Apparently, after finding the Emperor's ship soaked in the blood of its own crew, other Imperial politicians and officers now think the same. Also, no potential client is supposed to ever contact the Brotherhood directly. They pray to the Night Mother. I think that the Night Mother can figure out which ones are legitimate contracts and which ones are attempts to rat out the Brotherhood. As I said before, there is only 1 simple reason why the Brotherhood has not gone after the Thalmor. No one has yet hired them to do so. The Brotherhood only care about 2 things, money and death (the Night Mother is a person, not a thing). Political sides are irrelevant, no matter how powerful they are.
  6. Besides other DB members (even then it is allowed in special cases), killing ANYONE is fair game to the Dark Brotherhood. So long as someone is willing to pay, someone will die. Legion, Stormcloak, Thalmor, Black-Briar, Silver-Blood. All potential prey.
  7. Choosing trade guilds have absolutely nothing to do with choosing a side for the civil war.
  8. Well, was Tullius within earshot when the captain made the order? Also, Hadvar could have easily went behind the captain's back and told Tullius that the captain was going to sent a (relatively) innocent man/woman to their death (again, Tullius was right there, nearby, if not within earshot), but I suppose Hadvar didn't want to risk his own position for a stranger.
  9. True, as shown in Helgen, the Empire has their own torturers and therefore would not need the Thalmor's.
  10. Actually, doing the Missing in Action quest as a Legionnaire will allow Tullius to write a "hall pass" permitting the release of Thorald.
  11. http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Modern_Heretics Not illegal. The law apparently tends to ignore both hunters and worshipers so long as they do their thing privately. However, for example, I was playing as a vampire and was attacked by the Dawnguard in a city. The city guard killed the Dawnguard.
  12. Well, in Oblivion, you could talk about finding Daedric Shrines in casual conversation, so it never really struck me as something super secret. Also, you can walk into a town with a cadre of undead or Daedric familiars, and, while people will express their distaste, no one will arrest you (there are legal repercussions for transforming into a giant wolf or bat, though).
  13. Again, is Daedra worship directly illegal? Besides, for murders and other crimes connected to Daedra worship, the only people that I find directly hunting Daedra worshipers just for non-violent worship are vigilante groups.
  14. Wait, is DB the acronym for Dark Brotherhood or Dragonborn?
  15. Wait, I thought that Daedra worship, itself, along with necromancy, were culturally controversial, but legally accepted (as opposed to actions that are often required of Daedra worshipers, such as murder), due to that the fact it is hard to tell the difference between Daedra worship and Mages Guild secular summoning of Daedra familiars? The only people who actively hunt Daedra worshipers are vigilante groups, such as the Vigilants of Stendarr.
  16. The Markarth incident happened in 4E176. The events of Skyrim the game happen in 4E201. And Braig’s daughter would be 23 according to him today if she was still alive. So, that means she was killed after 4E178. Two years after Ulfric was arrested, which is what the Markarth Incident was about. Religious freedom regarding Talos and religious freedom of the Forsworn is slightly different, given that Forsworn religion actually requires bloody sacrifices and the like.
  17. Yes, but see what happened to Astrid when she tried to turn the Brotherhood into the mercenary group that you described?
  18. When I read "up to Solitude" and "head on their shoulders" in the same sentence, I couldn't help but smirk. Ulfric isn't even actively racist either, just at worst racially neglectful. In other words, he doesn't care. Also, the Empire is fighting Ulfric NOT because he is racist, but only because he is a rebel. In other words, had Ulfric remained loyal to the Empire, the Empire wouldn't really care how he treated anyone. Heck, the Empire labeled Ulfric a hero for fighting the Forsworn, but as soon as he rebelled, those exact same actions were vilified. To stop Ulfric's "racist actions" is hardly a reason to join the Legion.
  19. Also, it depends on whether or not you think "dynasty" is synonymous with "empire".
  20. In terms of Ocato, yes, he was one of the most loyal Chancellors of the Septim dynasty, but do Chancellors represent the Empire, or do Emperors? As for Thules, history has been filled with Emperors of ridiculously short dynasties. Wouldn't Thules be one of them?
  21. But if you're just following what you did in Oblivion, then it begs the question if different dynasties mean different empires. Ancient Chinese people would say yes. This is not like modern western countries where the country is the same despite having completely different leaders. In most empires, when the bloodline of the Emperor (Septim) is dead, the Empire is dead. If someone else resurrects the Empire under a different family/dynasty name, then that is a different Empire altogether. The Medes are not the Septims.
  22. Not to offend anyone here, but most religions are based on public belief rather than actual divine support. However, those who play those cards right often get a ridiculously large following that would be impossible otherwise. Heck, the one who says the line, Lisbet, worships Namira. Oh, when you said "priestess", my mind instantly went to someone wearing robes. Never mind.
  23. What is the name of this priestess? As for Talos, again, symbols are everything. To the common man, Talos is a symbol of honor and traditional heroism. That's the orthodoxy that takes precedence over the heresy. And fortunately or unfortunately, common men make up most of any army, with super scholars, who have higher likelihood of believing the heresy, being the comparatively fewer strategists.
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