Need Load Order HELP

[Deleted99367623User]

Greetings to everyone!

 

I need help with my HUGE load order. I do not get crashes often but have problem with disappearing landscapes, plants, trees, grass and buildings that appear after some seconds. Game freezes at almost all locations I visit - even when I have been there.

When I get crashes Buffout 4 logs show mostly/mainly companion/follower related mods.

For this plugins load order list I sorted first with LOOT, then looked in Wrye Bash for plugins that missing masters, sorted them manually. I also sort the plugins after mods' authors load order guides. I also use FO4EDIT for cleaning the mods (when Wrye Bash or LOOT show errors). As organizer I use Mod Organizer 2.

Here is the BIG list:

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout4.esm

 

DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm

 

Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp

 

SettlementKeywords.esm
OWM-Master.esl
ArmorKeywords.esm
dlcprojectx_mainplugin.esm
HUDFramework.esm
EthreonMasterPlan.esm
Loads.esm
Homemaker.esm
WorkshopFramework.esm

 

SettlementSalvageBot.esl
Wasteland Illumination DLC.esl
SS2.esm
WorldwideGhoulsV400.esl
NewCalibers.esp
CWSS Redux.esp
C.O.A.T.S - Core.esp
AAF.esm
MaleBodies.esm
PANPC.esm
_LandAnimMod.esl
Rusty Face Fix.esl
Loot Detector.esl
Quad_Fusillade.esl
Wasteland Illumination Far Harbor ESL.esl
ConfigurableHotkeys.esl
KillTips_by_tooun.esl
GKX Worthwhile Caps Stashes.esl
TBOS-ClothingCraftersWorkbench.esl
RRTV_RobotModelKits.esl
LuckyLoot.esl
Real Water HD for ENB.esl
Lucid's Texture Upgrades.esl
EvilInstituteHD2K.esl
Workshop_Workbench_Cleaner.esl
CROSS_CoA.esl
JockStrap.esl
KazuOutfit1.esl
GunGSSideAiming.esl
DDLL.esl
AAFTurnTheLightON.esl
CanarySaveFileMonitor.esl
EG7.esl
lodfix_beantown_container.esl
GunGS.esl
BerettaM9FS.esl
Quick_Modification_Weapon_by_tooun.esl
SettlementGardenBot.esl
lodfix_salem_museum.esl
SettlementMedicBot.esl
SettlementCopBot.esl
SettlementFixerBot.esl
SettlementTidyBot.esl

 

ENBLightsHDRPatch.esp
SettlementMenuManager.esp
AWKCR - Last Resort CTD FIX.esp
Flicker Fixer.esp
spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp
SettleObjExpandPack.esp
SavrenXPropsAndJunk.esp
SavrenXFoodAndFoodware.esp
FlaconOil_BA2_Upto4K_Part1.esp
FlaconOil_BA2_Upto4K_Part2.esp
FlaconOil_BA2_Upto4K_Part3.esp
luxor8071 HD Texture Pack AIO.esp
luxor8071's HD Texture Pack AIO Pt 2.esp
luxor8071's HD Texture Pack AIO Pt 3.esp
luxor8071's HD Texture Pack AIO Pt 4.esp
luxor8071's HD Texture Pack AIO Pt 5.esp
Vivid Fallout - All in One - 4k.esp
Perfect landscape.esp
Langleys HD Texture Workshop.esp
NMC Bundle VERY HIGH.esp
LooksMenu.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
VIS-G Item Sorting.esp
VIS-G Legendary Modifications.esp
VIS-G Item Sorting Vanilla Weight Patch.esp
M8r_Item_Tags_Vanilla_DE.esp
M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp
WorkshopRearranged.esp
GatlingLaserAmmoFix.esp
freefov.esp
freefovpowerarmor.esp
InstitWeapPosit.esp
Wetness Shader Fix.esp
EasyHacking.esp
LongRangeBulletHoles.esp
Settler Sandbox Overhaul.esp
No Aggro Impact Landing.esp
CastleRecruiter.esp
Corpse Collision.esp
Realistic Death Physics - ALL DLC.esp
PerceptionBugFix.esp
General Atomics Fix.esp
Passive Camera Shake - Reduced.esp
Docile Radstags.esp
FirstPersonMessagesMerged.esp
WheelMenu.esp
PhotoMode.esp
Scopes.esp
Radioactive Load Screens.esp
WmkActiveEffects.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
DN Music.esp
STALKER Music_Complete.esp
LOST Audio Tweaks.esp
CGOsoundsplugin.esp
HiPolyFaces.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
MiscHairstyle.esp
Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
MoreHairstyles4Male.esp
Lots More Facial Hair.esp
MoreBeards.esp
SS2Extended.esp
SimSettlements2ChildSupport.esp
SS2 Better Outfits.esp
SS2_CityPlanPack_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
SS2WastelandReconstructionKit.esp
BrahminFeederFull.esp
Brahmin Watertrough.esp
RobCo Refacing Module - Jake.esp
RobCo Refacing Module - Old Paul.esp
ScrapDeadThings.esp
Unicorn_Farts_And_God_Rays.esp
Quieter Settlements - Recommended Settings.esp
Decreased Subway Announcement Sound.esp
Easy City Downs Announcement.esp
CriticalKill.esp
UIVatsCriticalExecuted.esp
PowerArmorIntercomVoice_Balanced.esp
Horrorghouls2.2.esp
RadioReverbFix.esp
Project Reality Footsteps FO4.esp
Better Vendor Stalls.esp
HoloDisplay.esp
OWM-DLCRobot.esp
cartman1975_concrete-glass.esp
BetterJunkFences.esp
BossChestsHaveLegendaries.esp
PA-Quick Animations.esp
funcweddingrings.esp
Improved Jetpack Flight Model.esp
Splinterz.esp
Exploding Eyebots.esp
3pMeleeTweak.esp
Durable Vehicles x5.esp
jdmCouchSleep.esp
EatFood.esp
Move (Get Out the Way).esp
PressXtoRespond.esp
CompanionStatus.esp
Immersive Fallout - Increased Fall Velocity.esp
Immersive Fallout - Movement (DLC).esp
RAW INPUT.esp
_Balance_ProjectZero.esp
TAS.esp
Complex Vendors.esp
Larger Shipments.esp
PlayerComments.esp
HCKTerminalHack.esp
Immersive Waiting.esp
CROSS_Jetpack.esp
NoExpForCrafting.esp
M88_MRE.esp
BuildableBurningCampfires.esp
SunLightAlignment.esp
UltraExteriorLighting.esp
PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp
Universal Working Bathroom Fixtures (CWSS and DLCs).esp
Boston Natural Surroundings.esp
Pine Trees Redone - BNS 2.4.esp
Pine Trees Redone.esp
TrueGrass.esp
FLORA - The Fungal Forest.esp
Better Landscape Grass.esp
VELDT - Original Recipe.esp
VELDT.esp
Region Names on Save Files.esp
WAVE.esp
Fallout 4 Ultimate Window Overhaul.esp
Real Roads HD.esp
Vault 111 HD.esp
Better Rubble.esp
Fixed Gobo Effects.esp
Thaylar Lighting 3.2 - Big Edition.esp
Clean Wasteland Workshop.esp
CleanPoweredDoors.esp
CleanRedRocketTextures.esp
RohZima_RealAnimatedPoses.esp
RBMECPoses.esp
Atomic Lust.esp
Rufgt's Animations.esp
AAF_Spectators.esp
Elzee Cough.esp
Corporate Wasteland + Far Harbor.esp
PD_LowerWeapon.esp
Live Action Handy Pre-War.esp
fofw_Davies.esp
Guards.esp
Cito.esp
Unofficial Fallout 4 FDI Patch.esp
GunnersOverhaul.esp
NSA All-in-One.esp
SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
True Legendary Enemies.esp
Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp
detailedferalghouls2K.esp
Unique Mythic Deathclaws.esp
NightOfTheCreeps.esp
CF_AtomicWarlord.esp
ZEX-TestPlugin.esp
Armor Rack.esp
quickchange.esp
Crafting Mastery.esp
Orphans.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
orphans AE.esp
K9TacticalHarness.esp
Gunmetal-Clothing-Variaty.esp
Classic Combat Armor.esp
Tactical Flashlights.esp
Tactical Flashlights - Settings.esp
TNR Shoulder Lamp.esp
TNR Shoulder Lamp - Settings.esp
Binoculars.esp
Randomized DC Guard Outfits.esp
MLU.esp
MLA.esp
TTOutfit.esp
Friffy_New Minutemen Outfits.esp
BZW_Chris_Redfield.esp
BZW_Military_Gear.esp
BZW_Renegade_Soldier.esp
ANZAC Hats.esp
Cowboy Lux.esp
GS Outfits for Beefy Male.esp
TBOS-CCW-ExampleClothing.esp
ImmersiveVendors.esp
VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp
SummonCompanions.esp
SlowTime.esp
CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
Wet Effects.esp
Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp
3dscopes-replacer.esp
DCVendorClutter.esp
Clarity.esp
Enhanced Flickering Firelight.esp
The Castle.esp
OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
Immersive Pickup Sounds F04.esp
More Sensible Mod Perk Req GOTY.esp
MojaveImports.esp
AWKCR-R.esp
CommonwealthChooksAndBunnies.esp
Raider Children.esp
The Collector's Guides AIO.esp
BetterCoastalWaves.esp
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
SwimmingEnemies - All DLC.esp
C.O.A.T.S - Patch - LooksMenu.esp
C.O.A.T.S - Patch - LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul Redux.esp
Reasonable Scrapping - VIS (Vanilla Weight).esp
ImmersiveScrapping_SeasonPass.esp
LOST - AWKCR VIS-G Tweaks.esp
Chemistry Station Override.esp
Reapers Wasteland Imports Patch.esp
FCRO - Food Chem Rads Overhaul.esp
Better Cooking Stations.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
Ambient Wasteland.esp
Better Cooking Stations - Mojave Imports patch.esp
Better Cooking Stations - Far Harbor + Nuka World patch.esp
Better Cooking Stations Immersive Patch.esp
Audio Merge Consistency Patch.esp
NewRecipesFH.esp
OWM-AWKCR.esp
WorkshopRearranged_MojaveImports_Patch.esp
OWM-DLCNukaWorld.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
Clean Water - Tropical.esp
UGO_PlayerModule.esp
UGO_NPCModule.esp
Corporate Wasteland - Main.esp
Animated Drinking.esp
Smoke-able Cigars.esp
Corporate Wasteland + Nuka World.esp
Crafting Mastery - Patch Loads of Ammo.esp
FarHarborStory.esp
Pipsy.esp
QuestsTags_00_AllDLC.esp
Search&DestroyFixed.esp
LOST Eli Compendium Patch.esp
W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
highwaysfix.esp
Crafting Mastery - AE Patch.esp
Crimsomrider's Accessories.esp
Facials.esp
keke-bu All-in-one Pack_1.1.7.esp
Neons NPC Overhaul.esp
Merchants stick with store - Unique Settlers (except Ron).esp
fofw_BlakeAbernathy.esp
fofw_DocWeathers.esp
fofw_HoltCombes.esp
fofw_HonestDan.esp
fofw_Horatio.esp
fofw_JunLong.esp
fofw_KnightRhys.esp
fofw_Mel.esp
fofw_Swanson.esp
fofw_Zeke.esp
Great Actors - NPCs.esp
SSNPC - DCResidentsAIO.esp
fofw_Hawthorne.esp
fofw_John.esp
Maxson.esp
JunFace.19FDB.esp
SturgesEdit.19FDA.esp
DeaconRom.esp
Everybody Loves Nudes - All DLC.esp
HiPolyFaces - Male Companions.esp
fofw_Deacon.esp
fofw_MacCready.esp
fofw_PaladinDanse.esp
fofw_PrestonGarvey.esp
Great Actors - Danse Alt.esp
Great Actors - Deacon.esp
Great Actors - MacCready.esp
Great Actors - Preston Alt.esp
Great Actors - X6-88 Alt.esp
PrestonEdit.19FD9.esp
Badass Danse Clean.esp
Badass MacCready Clean.esp
Synth Overhaul.esp
Docile Rabbits and Chickens.esp
Patch - Commonwealth Chickens - Scrap Dead Things.esp
Locky Bastard.esp
Firelance2.5.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Quest.esp
CAPP.esp
TU3SD4Y'S Commonwealth Responders.esp
Campsite.esp
WorkshopRearranged_Campsite_Patch.esp
CheatTerminal.esp
VUWR.esp
Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp
InstituteSettlements2.esp
DT_GunnerOutfitPack.esp
DTG_LeveledListIntegration.esp
PlaneWreck.esp
AFSSAB.esp
Better Explosives Redux.esp
Realisticbullets-DLC.esp
SRO - Syringer Overhaul.esp
Immersive Fallout Merge Consistency Patch.esp
Immersive Fallout - Real Recoil (DLC).esp
Immersive Fallout - Realistic ADS (DLC).esp
Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment.esp
Nexus_PMC.esp
RustDevilRedux.esp
TrashcanFix.esp
Zippo1.esp
VIS - Collectable Zippos Collectible.esp
AtomCatGarage.esp
DualSurvivors.esp
Minuteman Watchtowers.esp
Rsiyo'sLocationPack.esp
DualSurvivors_additionaldialogue.esp
WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
Vietnam Era Collection.esp
QuickTrade.esp
NVUMP.esp
cVc Dead Wasteland 6.esp
cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC2.esp
cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC3.esp
BoSStory.esp
RRTV_CourierStations.esp
LOST WATM Patch.esp
WestonWaterLOD.esp
Jocks.esp
RealHandcuffs.esp
UFOCrashSite.esp
Fo4Lore.esp
CartographersMapMarkers Commonwealth.esp
WET.esp
GreenGoo.esp
NWTransCenLOD.esp
FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
SS2WastelandVenturers.esp
Driveable Motorcycle Mod.esp
WorkshopPlus.esp
RRTV_Outcast_Hideout_Home.esp
DualSurvivors_compatibilitypatch.esp
ButtonsCompanion.esp
AlChestBreachCompanion.esp
Deacon_Modded_WGD.esp
Ryan.esp
EightCompanions.esp
DiamondCityAutoClose.esp
CartographersMapMarkers FarHarbor.esp
CartographersMapMarkers NukaWorld.esp
LD50_Leaders.esp
DK811_RRTV_Outcast_Hideout_Home_CourierStations_Storage.esp
Nathan.esp
GreaseRatGarbs.esp
GreaseRatGarbs_RaiderPatch.esp
GreaseRatGarbs_SettlerPatch.esp
CoAPowerArmor.esp
AtomicRadio.esp
3DNPC_FO4.esp
3DNPC_FO4_DLC.esp
3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp
WorkshopRearranged_AtomicRadio_Patch.esp
AT - Atomic Radio RAO Patch.esp
OAR_faces.esp
SkipHSH1_6.esp
Jif_TechnicalDocuments.esp
RemoteExplosives.esp
XM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.esp
CROSS_Blades.esp
CROSS_BreakActionLaser.esp
Thaylar Lighting 3.2 Workshop Rearranged Patch - Big Edition.esp
CustomCamera.esp
DD_All_the_COncrete.esp
CREAtiveClutter.esp
BrighterSettlementLights_ExtraBrightv1.1.esp
AkaWaterWorld.esp
SS2-PraRandomAddon.esp
SS2-PraRandomAddon-VIS.esp
SS2-PraRandomAddon-LWIS.esp
SS2-Jampads2.esp
SS2-Jampads2_ImportsPatch.esp
Nate's Old Footlocker v1.2.esp
DocDrumlin.esp
SalvageBeacons.esp
JP_GuardTowers.esp
cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC.esp
cVc Fishery.esp
MiscOutfitPackv2.esp
GunGS_LLInjector.esp
K-9 Harness_ArmorLLI.esp
XM2010_LLInjector.esp
chem redux.esp
LOST Chem Redux Patch.esp
AnimChemRedux.esp
NukaColaClassic.esp
NukaColaClassic_DLC.esp
XM2010_SniperRifle_STS.esp
XM2010_SniperRifle_STS_FOV90.esp
Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_PMC_Patch.esp
Visible Companion Affinity Consistency Patch.esp
Xander's Aid Quest Consistency Patch.esp
NPCSTRAVELFIXES.esp
cVc Consistency Patch.esp
dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
Hollywood Lasers.esp
HBT - New Calibers.esp
Hollywood Bullet Tracers.esp
Savant.esp
CleanVATS.esp
VATST_Combat_SlowMo.esp
VATST_Distance_10000.esp
VATST_Targeting_SlowMo.esp
SprintMfg.esp
ImmersiveLoversEmbraceRemastered.esp
Alex_Stripper_Pole_2.esp
Alex_Stripper_Pole_Working_Hours.esp
GetDirty.esp
GetDirty_NoCleanlinessPatchForCWSS.esp
CWSS and GetDirty Compatibility Patch.esp
RichMerchants.esp
SpotlightFix-200-Shadow.esp
R&AO Reduced Vault Reverb Patch.esp
MoreNoticeableHitEffect_DoubleVisionOnly.esp
BetterLowHealth_screenOnly.esp
MoreAmmo.esp
More Ammo CR.esp
Tom Sprint.esp
CompanionActiveWait.esp
FlirtyCommonwealthMale.esp
FlirtyCommonwealthMM.esp
Regs_Enhanced_PainGrunts.esp
PlayerComments_UFO4P_Patch.esp
CompanionHealThyself.esp
AA Better Companions - No Conflicts.esp
NoVanillaRadiantDLCLocations.esp
TabsMissingFix_DLC_WW_CW.esp
LOST Heal Thyself Patch.esp
LOST AFSSAB Patch.esp
LOST Anim Chems Patch.esp
LOST Backpacks Commonwealth Patch.esp
LOST Better Cooking Stations Patch.esp
LOST Blades Patch.esp
LOST Break Action Laser Patch.esp
LOST Buttons Patch.esp
LOST Campsite Patch.esp
LOST Cheat Terminal Patch.esp
LOST Children Atom PA Patch.esp
LOST Church of Atom Patch.esp
LOST Classic Combat Patch.esp
LOST Companion Status Patch.esp
LOST Complex Vendors Patch.esp
LOST Crit Gore-verhaul Patch.esp
LOST David Hunter Patch.esp
LOST Death Scream Patch.esp
LOST Distributed LL Patch.esp
LOST Explosives Redux Patch.esp
LOST FCRO Patch.esp
LOST Grease Rat Garbs Patch.esp
LOST Gunner Outfit Pack Patch.esp
LOST Have a Beer Patch.esp
LOST Homemaker Patch.esp
LOST Huntress Manor Patch.esp
LOST Jampads 2 Patch.esp
LOST K9 Harness Patch.esp
LOST Leaders SS2 Patch.esp
LOST Lore Project Patch.esp
LOST NPC Travel Patch.esp
LOST Objects Expansion Patch.esp
LOST Outcasts and Remnants Patch.esp
LOST PANPC Patch.esp
LOST Pipsy Patch.esp
LOST PMC Patch.esp
LOST Realistic Bullets Patch.esp
LOST Remote Explosives Patch.esp
LOST Salvage Becons Patch.esp
LOST SCDO Patch.esp
LOST See Through Scopes REPLACER Patch.esp
LOST Settlement Menu Manager Patch.esp
LOST Settlers of the Commonwealth Patch.esp
LOST Sim Settlements 2 Patch.esp
LOST Smokeable Cigars Patch.esp
LOST SS2 Wasteland Venturers Patch.esp
LOST Synth Overhaul Patch.esp
LOST Syringer Overhaul Patch.esp
LOST Tactical Flashlights Patch.esp
LOST Tales Commonwealth Patch.esp
LOST TAS Patch.esp
LOST TNR Lamp Patch.esp
LOST Visible Companion Affinity Patch.esp
LOST Vivid Weathers Patch.esp
LOST Vivid Weathers QUEST Patch.esp
LOST VUWR Patch.esp
LOST Wasteland Outfit Patch.esp
LOST Watchtowers Patch.esp
LOST WestTek Optics Patch.esp
LOST Workshop Framework Patch.esp
LOST Workshop Plus Patch.esp
LOST Worthwhile Caps Stashes Patch.esp
LOST Xander's Aid Patch.esp
Reaper Build Your Own Pool Patch.esp
Reaper NVUMP Patch.esp
Reaper XM2010 Patch.esp
Reapers Cross JetPack Patch.esp
Reapers CWResponders Patch.esp
Reapers HCKTerminals Patch.esp
Reapers QMW Patch.esp
Reapers RRTV_Outcast_Patch.esp
Reapers Tough Traveller Patch.esp
GardenBotWaterPatch.esp
Reapers Crimsomriders Access Patch.esp
SuperMutantRedux.esp
LOST Super Mutant Redux Patch.esp
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
EFF.esp
Realistic_conversations.esp
COFP.esp
Fo4FI_FPS_fix.esp
FO4FI_3DNPC.esp
FO4FI_Eli.esp
F04FI_FPS_fix - Region Names Patch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

Edited May 31, 2021 by Guest

[Guest deleted34304850]

is your goal to have a load order that contains every mod for fo4?

there's so much duplication of mods in that list.

[Deleted99367623User]

is your goal to have a load order that contains every mod for fo4?

there's so much duplication of mods in that list.

Of course, I am NOT going to have all Fallout 4 mods to have one of the biggest plugins list (I would then reach even the limits for .ESL and or .ESL flagged plugins of 4096). By the way, in the list are 380+ .ESL and ESL-flagged .ESP. And 180+ .ESM and .ESP. (the limit of 254 is not reached).

 

I know no one would go through the VERY LONG plugins list to look what is conflicting or what mod is not needed. Maybe there is some one who has such big list and knows what to do.

 

What you mean exactly with duplication mods? Do I have double of them and if yes, which one are these?

If you know please tell me (of course when you have time for it), but I thank you for answering me.

Edited June 1, 2021 by Guest

[HadToRegister]

Well, you've got 69 LOST patches installed, so I decided to copy the name of some of then going down the list, by hitting CTRL+F to use Browser Search, so I copy the Titles, Like "See through Scopes" or "David Hunter" and the browser returns "1 of 1" file

Which means you have patches installed for Mods you don't even have installed, I found about 10 of them so far, but I'm not going through all 69 of them.

 

Also, I question your sorting, you use LOOT, but then sorted them manually anyway

[Deleted99367623User]

Well, you've got 69 LOST patches installed, so I decided to copy the name of some of then going down the list, by hitting CTRL+F to use Browser Search, so I copy the Titles, Like "See through Scopes" or "David Hunter" and the browser returns "1 of 1" file

 

Which means you have patches installed for Mods you don't even have installed, I found about 10 of them so far, but I'm not going through all 69 of them.

 

Also, I question your sorting, you use LOOT, but then sorted them manually anyway

Thank you too, for answering.

 

David Hunter - A Brotherhood Story mod has BoSStory.esp. And See Through Scopes has 3dscopes-replacer.esp. I install the patches from Mortercotic's LOST and optional Reaper patches so: What FOMOD installer finds, will be installed.

 

I installed the mods after Masterlix1982's MOFAM, ThuggySmurf's Thuggyfied, Mortercotic's Way to the Lost and LOST AWKCR VIS-G Patches and from other authors' guides.

 

Sorting of plugins: After guides' rules then, because I added MANY MANY mods that were not on those guides too so I had to sort mostly manually while looked to load order guides of famous authors.

 

If you want to know what mod the plugins is I would answer. By the way, I made on MO2 many sections/genres when installing mods after the guides I used so I know where a mod installed (want to say that it is easy to find what mod is installed in what order).

 

AGAIN: I get RARE crashes with Buffout 4. I got VERY OFTEN crashes 'till 1 month ago then I wrote in many many mods' "Posts" page about my problem and could solve, even so it is not properly solved, solution for crashes. Since then rare crashes but when it crashes it is mostly because of companion/follower related crashes.

 

To FPS: I have in FULLY built Sim Settlements 2 areas normally 30-40 FPS when I look around, outside/far away from SS2 settlements normally 40-50 FPS.

 

But the biggest problem I have is ENSeries info needs 1 minute to appear, 1 minute to disappear. Loading a save needs 3 minutes. 1 month ago I had to wait 3 minutes for ENBSeries appearing/disappearing and loading of a save took up to 10 minutes. But after Sigt1's performance guide (that I followed) starting game is acceptable and FPS so, See the link:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/49866/?tab=description&BH=1

 

 

Edited June 1, 2021 by Guest

[HadToRegister]

I was using those as random examples, what about "Heal Thyself", and "Cheat Terminal" those were a couple that showed 1 of 1

[Deleted99367623User]

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I was using those as random examples, what about "Heal Thyself", and "Cheat Terminal" those were a couple that showed 1 of 1

(First, thanks again for trying to help and EVERY help is WELCOME)

Companion Heal Thyself: CompanionHealThyself.esp (LOST patches: LOST Heal Thyself Patch.esp). And to Cheat Terminal: CheatTerminal.esp (in LOST: LOST Cheat Terminal Patch.esp). I do not know why your searching shows just 1 result.

I also tried to play without LOST patches and also without AWKCR, AE, VIS-G Item SOrting and related mods but then I got VERY OFTEN crashes. I also tried with AND without LOST AWCKR VIS-G Patches (and related mods) and Thuggysmurf's two Patches "Grindfree Game Settings". When LOST and OR Thuggy patches are installed=rare crashes.

But I do not know how to load FO4FI_FPS_FIX plugin. Author says VERY LAST and it means just above Bashed Patch, 0.ESP and AFTER the Mortercotic's LOST patches. When I load FO4FI at top (after Masterlix1982's installation guide) or at LAST still same re-building of areas that are first 50% or 100% 'ghostly' (not visible) for awhile. Then everything will be built (landscapes, plants, trees, buildings, grass etc.).

[monesq]

While my list of mods was not that extensive (I had around 400 mods) I made the decision to eliminate certain mods so that my game performance would increase. I am an ardent settlement builder and want to share my blueprints, so I have a huge number of settlement mods that I will not get rid of, but some of the mods that I did for textures, I bundled those up with the basic game assets as per a guide I found that has increased FPS and decreased CTDs. I normally do not have CTDs but FPS issues. So now, if I am going to build settlements, I set the graphics level to low and when I am not, I set it back to high so my FPS remains consistent.

 

Bottom-line, you need to make adjustments with this game engine and one of the best ones would be to reduce the number of mods. The more mods you have, the more likely you will have CTDs or performance issues unless you have one heck of a PC and even then, you may still have issues. You can put a Yugo engine into a Ford 4x4 pickup and it will run, but when going uphill, it will run backwards!

[Deleted99367623User]

While my list of mods was not that extensive (I had around 400 mods) I made the decision to eliminate certain mods so that my game performance would increase. So now, if I am going to build settlements, I set the graphics level to low and when I am not, I set it back to high so my FPS remains consistent.

 

Bottom-line, you need to make adjustments with this game engine and one of the best ones would be to reduce the number of mods.

The idea of reducing graphic settings when building is good idea but it would mean I must do it every time I want to build, end the game, set settings at high, then when building, end game, set settings low etc. I do NOT mean that your idea is useless, it is VERY useful.

 

I am at work reducing mods but slowly. I had last month 850(!) active plugins but reduced them a lot. But almost, but NOT all, mods I installed are mods I would not play without them. But performance comes first then mods, so I must continue to reduce the list. Thank you guys for helpful information!

 

Especially, because I get crashes because of companions/follower (and I installed many) mods, I must concentrate on those mods. And of course because of longer loading times and often freezing that have to do with big texture, landscape, flora mods I must also look around to reduce those mods.

 

 

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Texture mods can be a killer, especially if they are in loose file format. You can combine them with other BSA texture mods through Cathedral Assets or a tool provided by the CK as BSA are much more efficient to load. I have done that with the game files that someone added their choices of textures and I added mine. It worked very well. You should try the High FPS mod. I finally figured out wh7y my game was lagging so much. I have an outdoor "man-cave" with a TV an evaporative cooler, etc., and I play outdoors as I smoke cigars while I play (I do not smoke inside my house). Irrespective of the number of fans I am running (4 under the laptop and the evap blowing on to my laptop) the temperature outside is very high (over 100 degrees and climbing now). At least I know that it is not a hardware problem per se.

 

Companion mods can be problematic as they are heavily scripted I believe. The max I will run are three, Ivy from Lover's Lab (my all time favorite, I am waiting on version 6 to come out to play with her again) and a recent discovery, Darlene and Amazing Follower Tweaks (you cannot control Ivy or Darlene with AFT but I use it for the other companions to get their perks and then dump them). I like Heather Casdin and Ellen the Cartographer, but they have not been updated for years and after playing with them several times, the romance is over. Ivy and Darlene are actively being updated by two very good modders and I think they are the best companions for this game.

 

I also have eliminated many of my weapon mods as I can only carry so many weapons with me. I use the BR77 as in latter stages it can be very powerful, which I need as I have mods that allow NPCs to gain experience with no limitations, coupled with mods that increase their intelligence and fighting (like taking cover or trying to surround be with cross fire, my combat game play is great, leaving only settlement mods (the vast majority of my mods), some visual mods and presets and of course Quest mods.

 

I would easily go over 700 mods as there are so many out there, but with more mods, comes more exposure to instability.

 

Keep working on your load order and eventually you will find a stable one.

 

Good luck.