Auto update?

[HadToRegister]

 

But at the end of the day it comes down to USER CONTROL.

 

If you want full USER CONTROL of Updates, then you turn "No Automatic Updates" ON, and use the "CHECK NOW" button to manually check for updates.

 

There are three options, ONE Option says "No Automatic Updates", which means, that the two other options are AUTOMATIC, and will happen without user interaction.

 

 

 

[Guest deleted34304850]

 

Your language is was FINE. My bad for not asking you if you were in the BETA or STABLE channel.

 

I use the BETA channel, which does offer me informational messages that I can choose to ignore if I wish. (I never do, I always install the latest, as I watch the issues llist on Github). If you want to receive a notification before the update hits, you could try that? What's the worst that could happen, right?

 

However, you seem to be one of those users who have the arrogance to think they know better than software providers as to how/when/what updates go on their systems, so perhaps it's not an ideal option for you. Still, it may be something you'll get a kick out of, because you can choose to ignore available updates and pretend you're Neo sticking it to the man.

Wow first part so good, second part you just went completly off the rails, just because i have some special needs and situations that can not let my computer just dl what ever it wants when it wants even if it's updates because a have very specific situations that i do not need to explain to you.

 

But at the end of the day it comes down to USER CONTROL. My machine, my control i install or not install what i want be it to my benefit or detriment But NO ONE OR THING will tell me how or what to do or take control out my hands from my stuff!! I CHOOSE! if you well just go along and trust all and everything good for you, that's you and how you live and kudos to you, but don't try to get on your high horse judging people when all i come in was reporting a finding which I thought would bring problems so i apologize for caring but also on a selfish level it can really wreck my daily life quite a bit.

 

Again another person who assumes and well...

 

Just so you can learn something new today about judgment and assumptions

I'll explain why i cant let my machine just install stuff

You see unlike probably you as i'm not going to assume here, I'm handicapped and use pedals and systems and software to control my pc that are not mainstream and well not the normal way you would control it, so you see my attachments are very sensitive to updates because well my community doesn't have the resources to have engineers on top of those programs and their drivers and such that we use for the pedals and macros and other input devices, so you see is not that i'm

 

 

 

one of those users who have the arrogance to think they know better than software providers as to how/when/what updates go on their systems

No sadly is that well in my situation well life pitched me a curve and well I have to swing at it but MY WAY because I have to adapt to it and the situation as I have NO CHOICE in that matter, so then I need to do all that so that way I can have and make my daily living a bit more bearable and with some quality of life and fun with my limited gaming, but thank you non the less. have a great day!

 

Wow the last one was meant as a joke. But I see you have no sense of humour.

You too have a great day, and remember - they're all watching you.

[elpuertorro]

Oh and don't worry I know there watching, but not much i can do in my situation can can i ? :ninja: :tongue: <-- See that was a joke VERY different.

Yeah keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, was a joke until you found out of my situation!
Lesson learned don't assume, you already know.

But yeah this treatment towards me will be ignored and have a well let's keep it moving

Have a great day, and remember keep telling yourself it was a "joke" so you can sleep better. :wink:


On a side note It kind of baffles me that in a place with so many tech savvy people they don't follow the 40+yrs (give or take) unwritten rule of never install updates right away specially OS, GPU, Audio drivers which I KNOW Tanin himself follows, specially in his production machine as any problem with an update = downtime which = loss revenue, as well as HadTo.

Hell I'm not a betting man but i would put all my money on it! and i know i would win "HAND" down <-- (see again that's is a joke that only i can make lmao) and they can't deny it we all know better and if not wow just wow I'll leave it there not here to judge how people manage their stuff.

Even now days the YT tech reviewers still advice the new generation about the practice, you wait a few days make sure no major bugs are wrecking machines then you install, so i guess that's why IT's deploy updates right away as soon as they are out right? no testing for a few days in a testing machine before deploying the workstations/production machines? and they do know way better, but then again I'm just :

 

one of those users who have the arrogance to think they know better than software providers as to how/when/what updates go on their systems

[Guest deleted34304850]

oh i sleep just fine. don't you worry about me.

i would ask you why you've got a mod manager and games on a "production" machine which to me, is way more serious than installing fixes for software, but each to their own. but then i don't think you know what you're doing anyway because your replies in this thread are amazing in both their arrogance and their ignorance, so we'll leave this here. good luck with your production machines and may your tinfoil hat always fit your pointy head.

[elpuertorro]

oh i sleep just fine. don't you worry about me.

i would ask you why you've got a mod manager and games on a "production" machine which to me, is way more serious than installing fixes for software, but each to their own. but then i don't think you know what you're doing anyway because your replies in this thread are amazing in both their arrogance and their ignorance, so we'll leave this here. good luck with your production machines and may your tinfoil hat always fit your pointy head.

Can you tell me when it turn personal for you? as i recall you insulted me, not the other way around and if me stating facts is a problem oh well be it.

 

Also you should READ I never said I HAD a production machine, remember my machine for me is my life but that is something you can't begin to comprehend unless you are in my situation or at least try to put yourself in it which you have not done, you are simply looking at this from your perspective, so not going to hold your ignorance on how my life is different then yours against you, but then again talk about arrogance you see what you want and understand what you want to understand.

 

Can't even have the decency of really reading so you can then let me have it and make fun of me some more :dry:

[Tannin42]

 

On a side note It kind of baffles me that in a place with so many tech savvy people they don't follow the 40+yrs (give or take) unwritten rule of never install updates right away specially OS, GPU, Audio drivers which I KNOW Tanin himself follows, specially in his production machine as any problem with an update = downtime which = loss revenue, as well as HadTo.

 

Hell I'm not a betting man but i would put all my money on it! and i know i would win "HAND" down <-- (see again that's is a joke that only i can make lmao) and they can't deny it we all know better and if not wow just wow I'll leave it there not here to judge how people manage their stuff.

 

Even now days the YT tech reviewers still advice the new generation about the practice, you wait a few days make sure no major bugs are wrecking machines then you install, so i guess that's why IT's deploy updates right away as soon as they are out right? no testing for a few days in a testing machine before deploying the workstations/production machines? and they do know way better, but then again I'm just :

 

 

You are wrong, I update relevant software asap. I have a backup system so I can continue work if something were to break but I've never needed it.

 

That unwritten rule of never installing updates was ruled by idiots, it's probably unwritten because no one would want there name attached to that nonsense.

 

Just to clarify something here: tech reviewers like Linus Sebastian or Austin Evans are charismatic people which qualifies them to make money on youtube. They are not software experts. What do you think qualifies them to give professional advice on when to update your software? Are you going to take medical advice from Ninja? Investment advice from PewDiePie?

It's a funny world we live in where people think "oh, the guy has 10mio subscriber, he must know what he's talking about"

 

You are right: IT departments often don't update workstation or production machines immediately. That's why they get hacked. Most hacks are either through social engineering or through well known and fixed security issues. The chance of being hacked through an unfixed, unknown, zero-day attack is minuscule.

 

Software updates may introduce new bugs which can be inconvenient, no question about that. But from a security standpoint, keeping software updated is essential. And in professional environment you'd usually use a software fork that doesn't get the newest features but still gets security fixes.

Case in point (even though I would certainly not consider Vortex or electron in general a "professional environment"): You might have noticed how we updated Vortex to electron 11.4.8, not the current version 13.1.2. Which is sensible for a stable update because electron 11.4 still receives security fixes and essential bugfixes but no new features so it's unlikely to cause new problems.

[Guest deleted34304850]

 

 

On a side note It kind of baffles me that in a place with so many tech savvy people they don't follow the 40+yrs (give or take) unwritten rule of never install updates right away specially OS, GPU, Audio drivers

 

what unwritten rule is that? in 30+ years working in IT I've never once, not ever, come across any kind of ruling like that. If you can give me a reference to that strategy, I can educate myself. I'll wait.

Edited June 19, 2021 by 1ae0bfb8

[HadToRegister]

 

 

On a side note It kind of baffles me that in a place with so many tech savvy people they don't follow the 40+yrs (give or take) unwritten rule of never install updates right away specially OS, GPU, Audio drivers

 

 

 

Kind of ironic then, considering you had AUTOMATIC UPDATES TURNED ON.... Isn't it?

 

 

 

 

[elpuertorro]

Ok let's not deviate the MAIN point which has nothing to do with good it practices and update procedures or what not has to do with a program acting NOT as intended by the programmer but yet is better to concentrate on looking for any little thing to make me look like hey you wrong on this so you also wrong on the other i know what your doind but still does not deny 1 fact you program malfuction, by it by it's on or caused by an external situation but it did, and instead of trying to figure out why did it happen that way we have to keep doing this

The program did not auto update the way it was intended, which is:

1. I open the program once it opens, does the check, if there is an update (like yesterdays userlist one) then a NOTIFICATION window with in Vortex will pop up and tell you about it giving you access to the change log and also with the option do update now or it tells you that once you close it, it will update itself.

2 At this point you make the desicion ( still my desicion to accept or not so this is ok with me) you install now and get it over with and go step3, if not ) finish what your doing and on next launch will be updated. Done.

3. If you decide to update at that moment you click the button, windows pops up asking permission and then the updating window pops up, you press ok, it it closes itself installs and then open, done.

THAT DID NOT HAPPEN
For the last time I almost never turn this pc off

Open Vortex probably about 1 am eastern time, I did some modding stuff, tested, played a bit then left it at that, was seeing stuff on nexus and watching vids on youtube and what not when it happened.

Reminding you I did not close vortex at all so it was easily 8 hrs+ open before it happened, that's why I at least guaranteed the 1 hr open in the background so you can see it wasn't something of a few mins.

Again Vortex is OPEN and minimized at task bar as I have the setting to minimize at launch of games, so I didn't click to open it or close it.

Then as I'm watching a video on YT out of nowhere the installing don't close etc.. windows pops open, That is not the way is supposed to work and we all know it that window is supposed to pop up IF I click on the update now or close Vortex, so again I did NOT click on anything I did NOT receive a notification about the new update and I did NOT close vortex.

Recap there was NO sort of INTERACTION from my part to trigger the update as it should, be it by closing Vortex so it can proceed or click on the install at the moment, so what ghost in the machine?

Same has it did it when watching a video on youtube could have been while playing a game, in the middle on a call, etc.

Now that I think about it, it did a windows yeah that kind of describes it better, as in updating itself when you are in the middle of something without you telling it to.

I don't understand why are you guys trying to ignore it, at least if it's some fluke thing or whatever admit it and say i don't know something along, you know what I/we have no clue what it could have been seems odd first time it happens so if you want use it and if something else arises let us know, but if you are that worried uninstall it and call it a day, easy!
But no it's better to keep going at the user to what? I don't know make me look bad or not knowledgeable or something? like I care... remember is not like I am the one that has an IMAGE TO PROTECT, but regardless facts remain

Vortex Did Not Function As Programmed/Designed.

Still some need to learn how to read, I don't have a problem with it on the STABLE choice in updates as I clearly said from the OP and like 2 more post, iwhen works as intended is what I want, it let's me know and I decide when and if and you can CLEARLY see that in my description of the what happened is nothing to do with the intended way it updates itself.

So there you go, have a great day! And have fun posting more stuff that you know I will not reply so get all of them in!!
But still a reminder FACT!

DID NOT WORK AS PROGRAMMED.

[HadToRegister]

//Snipped excuses and shifting blame//

 

 

DID NOT WORK AS PROGRAMMED.

 

 

There's THREE setting for Updates, one setting prevents AUTOMATIC UPDATES, the other two setting are AUTOMATIC UPDATES.

 

NO AUTOMATIC UPDATE = Updates do not take place AUTOMATICALLY

 

STABLE = Vortex AUTOMATICALLY Updates to the Latest Stable update when published.

 

BETA = Vortex AUTOMATICALLY updates to the latest update when published.

 

 

WORKING AS INTENDED.

 

What you experienced is called PEBCAK and are placing your anger at everybody but yourself for leaving AUTOMATIC UPDATES TURNED ON.

 

Accept your mistake and move on.

 

FROM THE TOOLTIP

 

 

 

 

 

"You can choose to receive AUTOMATIC UPDATES only after they went through some community testing (Stable) or to always get the newest features (Beta)"

 

It clearly lets you know that choosing either STABLE or BETA is going to AUTOMATICALLY UPDATE.