Is using collections really worth it ?

[seweryn]

So I have heard some collections may not work with each other.

Is this a common occurrence or does it happen rather rarely?

I ask this because when i install mods manually i read every mod installation instruction but when using collections i probably won't.

The idea of collections is to download tons of mods as one batch and not worry about them working together.

I usually download a lot of mods from different categories so i wonder if is it better to stick with manual installation or if using collections is really worth it.

Thanks for the info,

Cheers,

[M48A5]

It would depend on your knowledge level and motivation.

 

If you are satisfied with the way you are doing things now, don't stop.

 

However, if you want to take the lazy way out, by all means start downloading and installing collections.

 

By not reading the individual installation instructions, you will run the risk of hours of troubleshooting trying to correct a problem.

[showler]

A single Collection is meant to work correctly without extra work.

 

Multiple Collections CAN be designed to work together without extra work. Like the Modules series for Fallout 4.

 

However, if you are using multiple UNRELATED Collections then nobody will have done the conflict resolution and patching necessary to make them work together. That's on you to do.

 

The Collections pages are very explicit about this fact.

 

So the answer to your question is: It depends on whether you are using Collections in the manner in which they are intended to be used.

[seweryn]

It would depend on your knowledge level and motivation.

 

If you are satisfied with the way you are doing things now, don't stop.

 

However, if you want to take the lazy way out, by all means start downloading and installing collections.

 

By not reading the individual installation instructions, you will run the risk of hours of troubleshooting trying to correct a problem.

The whole point of collections is laziness as you delicately put it; so you do not have to do all the manual labor yourself. Click download, then install and they work out of the box.

 

A single Collection is meant to work correctly without extra work.

 

Multiple Collections CAN be designed to work together without extra work. Like the Modules series for Fallout 4.

 

However, if you are using multiple UNRELATED Collections then nobody will have done the conflict resolution and patching necessary to make them work together. That's on you to do.

 

The Collections pages are very explicit about this fact.

 

So the answer to your question is: It depends on whether you are using Collections in the manner in which they are intended to be used.

I am talking about adding multiple collections or individual mods via the mod manager or deactivating some of the collections mods since I do not like them.

I am asking if i do this will it create more problems with mod compatibility or less? Will it be easier and faster to download every mod independently, since i will deal with any incompatibilities on the fly?

[showler]

 

I am talking about adding multiple collections or individual mods via the mod manager or deactivating some of the collections mods since I do not like them.

I am asking if i do this will it create more problems with mod compatibility or less? Will it be easier and faster to download every mod independently, since i will deal with any incompatibilities on the fly?

 

If you add multiple unrelated Collections there WILL NOT be any conflict resolution or patching done between mods from Collection A and mods from Collection B.

 

If you add individual mods there WILL NOT be any conflict resolution or patching done between the mods in the Collection and the individual mods you have added.

 

If you remove mods from the Collection you will have to also remove any CR/Patch files that the Curator has made that are dependent on the mods you removed (ie, files that have the mods you removed as Masters). Since those files can also contain conflict resolution and patching information for mods that remain in the Collection you will also lose the benefits of that CR/patching.

 

So, it depends. If you intend to keep all the mods in the Collection then it's easier. If you intend to keep all the mods in several Collections it will still be easier but you'll have to do some of the work yourself. Once you start removing mods from the Collections then it is probably easier to install the mods yourself or look for a different Collection that doesn't include the mods you don't want.

 

That's the complete answer. It depends on what you are intending to do.

[gnarly1]

However, if you want to take the lazy way out, by all means start downloading and installing collections.

Your biased value judgement is unnecessary and inaccurate and, given your years in the community you should know better. By your logic, using a mod manager, or BethINI or any number of other modding automation tools would also be 'the lazy way out'.

 

Collections and curated mod lists are popular because it means you can be playing the game you want more quickly than if you had to install everything and resolve all the conflicts yourself. Is that being lazy in your world? The implication of your comment is that not using a collection is somehow a more noble method of modding your game. It isn't.

 

De-bias your mind from this mode of thinking.

 

 

I am talking about adding multiple collections or individual mods via the mod manager or deactivating some of the collections mods since I do not like them.

I am asking if i do this will it create more problems with mod compatibility or less? Will it be easier and faster to download every mod independently, since i will deal with any incompatibilities on the fly?

 

 

It will likely create more problems. If you want to do this, I recommend you become familiar with SSEEdit in order to identify and resolve any conflicts that arise.

 

In terms of whether it will be easier and faster to download every mod independently - it would depend on the size of the collection and the nature of the mods included. I would think that in general it would still be faster to use a collection as you would still need to spend time resolving conflicts that may otherwise have been resolved in the parts of the collection you decided to retain.