blandpanda Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 The reason im writing this is I've been modding for a while now.. I've used many different methods to do so.. ranging from: downloading the files manually installing them manually and learning which files should overwrite each file and the exact order to install them manually. creating my own mods and installing them manually with CK and Xedit. using MO2 to do the same thing but clumped together to make it a bit more easier. and Vortex... I see so many people pump up MO2 like it is the be all end all of modding.. well i don't think it is.. it fact.. If you know how to use Vortex already I would suggest stay with that..also learn how to overwrite files and place them manually.. MO2 isnt for the elite..it is for the people who prefer to live in the stone age...it is basically one step up from placing all the files manually. I have to say.. hands down Vortex wins.. when you learn to use vortex and the different advantages it has over the other methods combined with the methods prior to that.. it is hands down the superior mod manager. I can install and uninstall entire load orders in a few minutes that would take me most of the day with other methods. I see people all the time rant about Vortex writing to the main game folder etc..etc.. etc.. they dont know what they are doing.. I can install thousands of mods then remove them and my main folder is back to vanilla just like that.. buzz of MO2 gatekeepers lol Thank You to the creators of Vortex. PS.. it also has support for so many other games. The only change i would make is the annoying network connection attempts and errors when you are not online..other than that its the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorrp10 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I prefer Vortex as well... that said, I don't think MO2 is as 'primitive' as you claim.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I use vortex as well, and I recall the unfairly disparaging "stuff" it was subjected to by holier-than-thou MO2 users for several years. Methinks it's proven itself as a solid manager, since their incessant chest-beating about MO2 has quieted considerably over the past 2 or 3 years.. My sole gripe with Vortex is the overwrite window that pops up once and a while when updating a given mod, and which presents a confusing set of two choices (revert, or "save" or something like that) which will clear the entire contents of a mod you just updated if you choose the wrong one, oddly enough, the one they recommend almost every time...the one that isn't "revert"), which results in having to reinstall the mod all over again, so that it is no longer registering as "EMPTY" in the mod's tab view of vortex, MO2 is just a different way of approaching things. different strokes. However, even though I like vortex, I still manually "install" things like char presets and some textures, since they're just resource files, and I find it easier than cluttering my officially "installed" mod list with preset listings and additional textures I use selectively on various NPCs or for modifying my player textureset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCadsimar Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 (edited) If Vortex is so "great" and "advanced", why does it seem to have so much trouble properly installing large multi-part mods, huh? I try to help people with the Beyond Skyrim: Bruma mod, but I can't help the Vortex users because they have problems installing the mod properly and getting it to work that I just don't have. Biggest problem that I have with MO2 is sometimes forgetting to rename additional mod files that came from the same NexusMods page. Okay that and figuring out which mods actually need real updates, a lot of the mod update warnings in my MO2 are nonsense, like more than 90%... Edited July 22 by SirCadsimar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karna5 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 I'm very happy for everyone who uses and enjoys Vortex. Likewise I'm very happy for everyone who uses and enjoys MO2. I use and enjoy NMM CE, and for me it's a perfect fit. It's a good thing there are variations of mod managers. It isn't a competition. It's about playing games, not being better than the next person on the internet 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortexposer Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 (edited) Nonsense. Beyond Skyrim's largest file size is 2.5 GB (included in 564 Nexus collections) and something that small has never been an issue for Vortex. I've got 25 GB archives which sure, take a while to unpack but if they fail it's usually a bad compression or the download got corrupted (fails in or outside manager). Users and their computer are their own worst enemy, so just bc you can't figure out how to help doesn't meme there's something wrong or inadequate with the tool. In fact, most MO user advice does harm to our community - with their terribly inept "recommendations". smh Edited July 22 by vortexposer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfandrews Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 9 hours ago, Karna5 said: I'm very happy for everyone who uses and enjoys Vortex. Likewise I'm very happy for everyone who uses and enjoys MO2. I use and enjoy NMM CE, and for me it's a perfect fit. It's a good thing there are variations of mod managers. It isn't a competition. It's about playing games, not being better than the next person on the internet I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Frankly, whatever works for you is fine by me. Be it Vortex, MO2 or even NMM for those few who are and can still use it. But I do agree that a lot of BS advise comes out of the MO2 crowd. Or at least has in the past...not so much any more. Any "partisanship" I display in my own comments occasionally comes as a reaction to the snarking that I endured early on trying to get advise, only to be routinely dismissed as unworthy of advise by many MO2 folk, simply because I used Vortex, as if I was an "untouchable". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Hey everybody, just relax. Remember, we have the Nexus Mods App coming in the future to really confuse things and cause some fights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karna5 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 4 minutes ago, showler said: we have the Nexus Mods App coming Actually, that might be the only thing which might finally lure me away from NMM. I read the interview with the author of the new mod manager a few months ago, and he struck me as an old style software developer (the kind who understands hex and bits and direct memory addressing and also understands user friendliness). So I'm willing to give his mod manager a shot when it comes out. As long as the new app is blind friendly and doesn't require a significant amount of reading, I'll switch to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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