363rdChemicalCompany Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 On 10/14/2024 at 9:53 PM, jjb54 said: 2 - Bethesda recently released SKYRIM & FALLOUT .... * WITH MODS * ... so that kind of shoots that down BIG TIME. Since they PUSHED MODS ( wanted or not ) on to the users. And this seems like a good spot to say it: - The mods they pushed are mostly the kind someone who has beaten the game with most factions, is at level 100+ and bored and is now playing around and now would download content that is borderline non-sensical ( like TV for helmets!), yet this "NextGen CC" stuff is pushed as soon as a new player steps out of the vault unbalancing the game so much it amounts to vanadalism on the Fallout experience. - BTW did you see my links to NixGen to remove and/or postpone the NextGen CC content form .984 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted October 20 Author Share Posted October 20 On 10/19/2024 at 1:58 AM, 363rdChemicalCompany said: And this seems like a good spot to say it: - The mods they pushed are mostly the kind someone who has beaten the game with, is at level 100 and bored and is now playing around and now would download content that is borderline non-sensical ( like TV for helmets!), yet this "NextGen CC" stuff is pushed as soon as a new player steps out of the vaul unbalancing the game so much it amounts to vanadalism on the Fallout experience. - BTW did you see my links to NixGen to remove and/or postpone the NextGen CC content form .984 games? 1 - That there is part of the problem. The "Forced Mods", I have found they conflict with Mods that I want to use and have to work around the mess they create. 2 - The mods are flaky, in that NPC dialogs sometimes won't work. Weapons will not show and/or will not work. Quests are not able to be completed. 3 - Mod creators will not - do not support said mods, it's Bethesda's issue to fix. Bethesda, yes I asked them, told me to go see the Mod Creator as they are not responsible for said mod. ( Talk about the run-a-round!! ) ... When one can do their own download / install of mods, then they have support from the Mod Creator and / or I can usually fix it by adjusting load order and such. Sometimes I found a download was corrupted in the process and a simple re-download fixes it. I will check it out - your "NixGen" I like the typo .. more accurate of my feelings. I wish they would NIX it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraquar Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Bethesda isn't going to change. Why? They are the 800lb Gorilla. However, based on recent history they have lost a couple hundred pounds - they haven't put out anything worth writing home to mom about. The USER's have to change their mindset. Not just with the base game, but with your mods as well. Why? There are mods that jump on that latest patch like it's the next best thing since sliced bread and remove any ability to download their previous offerings. Back up the whole slam - regularly - and do NOT overwrite with your backups unless you are making that conscience decision. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogzilla82 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 ...A simple mod manager can disable the mods bethesda added..... Also a mod or 2 on nexus that can do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exlandia Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Skyrim is a beautiful game with wonderful music and atmosphere. It was made with passion by early days Bethesda, FO4 is nice too, but it seems Bethesda just doesn't have that passion anymore and are just turning out hyped and mediocre games these days. When it was all new and Todd said he's going to make the best games in the world, there was passion... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South8028 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 1 hour ago, exlandia said: Skyrim is a beautiful game with wonderful music and atmosphere. It was made with passion by early days Bethesda, FO4 is nice too, but it seems Bethesda just doesn't have that passion anymore and are just turning out hyped and mediocre games these days. When it was all new and Todd said he's going to make the best games in the world, there was passion... Well, I wouldn’t go into philosophy, but absolutely all modern trends are an example of the spiritual death of creativity. Solid remakes of remakes. There is absolutely nothing to watch, I want to play something less and less. For some probably commercial reasons, the authors of films and games ignore good books and use stupid scripts written by 8th graders. Starfield was simply no exception. It is no worse or better than the rest of the stream of rubbish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted October 23 Author Share Posted October 23 16 hours ago, Frogzilla82 said: ...A simple mod manager can disable the mods bethesda added..... Also a mod or 2 on nexus that can do the same thing. I wish that was true .... but no. I use NMM - ( Nexus Mod Manager ) - and they are GREYED OUT .. meaning they are "registered" like master files. - I was told over the past year ( some have since repented ) that you could move the Hard Set Mods that Bethesda forced on us ... to another directory, so they are not seen. Been there tried that and NO IT DID NOT WORK. 4 people that told me this, admitted they posted what they were told and then actually tried it and yes, "Jj, you are correct, the game ( Skyrim and FO 4 ) will not load. Now a couple gave me videos that it "DID WORK" .. until I pointed out some things ... at which "oops, .... " 2 Found they were not running any mods that required FO4SE and/or SKSE ... now maybe that does work, if you are just running base program and no mods and/or limited mods that do not require SE. But mods I use in both games require SE loader for the mods I use. Some found, also, that various .INI files would have to edited and such to get the games to work. In other words - a whole lot of work and the as I have found and few other: INDIVIDUAL RESULTS MAY VARY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted October 23 Author Share Posted October 23 2 hours ago, exlandia said: Skyrim is a beautiful game with wonderful music and atmosphere. It was made with passion by early days Bethesda, FO4 is nice too, but it seems Bethesda just doesn't have that passion anymore and are just turning out hyped and mediocre games these days. When it was all new and Todd said he's going to make the best games in the world, there was passion... Exactly! They have clearly lost the ability to TELL STORIES and have GREAT - GOOD Quest Lines. This became very clear with FO4 - they had some GREAT POSSIBLE QUESTS .. they traded for "Fallout meets Sim-City" and they successfully FAILED in that ... as it is clear they had NO CLUE WHAT THEY WERE DOING! I will not repost the Quests that I thought would be cool .. with Strong - Deacon - Preston G & Mama Murphy - Piper - and so on . ..... But instead we got BASE GAME FAILURE of "Sim-City" and a smaller sandbox in FO4. Then, as I stated the BOMB of FO76 and the serious issues that had at the beginning and even now. Then the BOMB of the Starfield and the common BORING and "holding on if they get it right"??? To be honest: at this point, I hope they don't do Elder Scroll 6 .... right now, on their current path: It could prove to be a MAJOR LET DOWN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 23 minutes ago, jjb54 said: I wish that was true .... but no. I use NMM - ( Nexus Mod Manager ) - and they are GREYED OUT .. meaning they are "registered" like master files. Fun fact: The list of plugins that are considered official content and therefore are not managed by NMM or Vortex is determined by the NMM and Vortex developers, not by anything that Bethesda does with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted October 23 Author Share Posted October 23 @Showler You do realize that most of the people have come to just ignore you, right? You talk down to us, you come across as .. well .... it's not positive. Most people just ignore you ... and this is very much the last post to you and your posts that I will make. As I too, have come to find it easier to just ignore you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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