Publisher-Approved Paid Modding Policy

[Kant3n]

Just now, elpuertorro said:

https://creations.bethesda.net/en/creators/bethesdagamestudios

Spouting a bunch of untruths followed by a URL that doesn't back any of them up isn't doing you any favors.

[elpuertorro]

8 minutes ago, showler said:

I mentioned some issues earlier.

1. Third party patch creators may not WANT to be part of Bethesda.net

2. The mod author of the secondary mod (the non-VC one) that is being patched may not have given permission for patches to be released anywhere other than Nexus Mods.

3. The secondary mod may contain content that Bethesda does not allow on Bethesda.net, so I'm not sure a patch for such a mod would be allowed either.

Bingo! you see someone get's it and thinks of the detours further down the road and not just the intersection in front of them .

[cyan49]

5 minutes ago, showler said:

I mentioned some issues earlier.

1. Third party patch creators may not WANT to be part of Bethesda.net

2. The mod author of the secondary mod (the non-VC one) that is being patched may not have given permission for patches to be released anywhere other than Nexus Mods.

3. The secondary mod may contain content that Bethesda does not allow on Bethesda.net, so I'm not sure a patch for such a mod would be allowed either.

Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't thought of that last one. The first thing that comes to mind is nude mods, they would never allow those. I don't think 1 and 2 are particularly problematic, 1 is simply their choice and 2 is a general modding rule.

[elpuertorro]

5 minutes ago, Kant3n said:

Spouting a bunch of untruths followed by a URL that doesn't back any of them up isn't doing you any favors.

Wow you already read all that? you do know you have to open up the titles to read the nested content in them right?  but i guess you are a speed reader.

[Kant3n]

Just now, elpuertorro said:

Wow you already read all that, you do have to open up the titles to read the nested content in them, but i guess you are a speed reader.

Because you don't have any arguments that can be verified or refuted on that page because it doesn't mention any of what you've been claiming. You just thought dropping the Creations URL after your comment was somehow an endorsement of validity.

[reiella]

8 minutes ago, cyan49 said:

Is there a problem with putting patches for Verified Creations on BethesdaNet instead of NexusMods? When it's in the same place as Verified Creations it seems to make more sense. It is still not possible to have multiple files on one mod page, but it is now possible to put them into one mod page for PS, Xbox and PC. Not so bad, I think.

 

In addition to other problems folks mentioned, certain integration patches can't be put on bethnet.

Non-plugin configurations like SPID Distributors, Achievement Injector integration, Complex Sorter configurations.

Pretty much if the mod can't be delivered strictly as a plugin + bsa, it can't be on bethnet.

 

[Chernobylite12]

5 minutes ago, showler said:

But you keep claiming that the VC's can't release patches for their mods.  And they can, if they do it through the free system rather than the paid system.

That's what everybody keeps telling you.

But as people have pointed out, Nexus has taken the position that patches CANNOT be released for paid mods ON NEXUS.  Which is the bigger issue at hand for a lot of users. 

[reiella]

7 minutes ago, showler said:

But you keep claiming that the VC's can't release patches for their mods.  And they can, if they do it through the free system rather than the paid system.

That's what everybody keeps telling you.

In fact, this is how Kinggath Creations released patches faster for EEE than the Bethesda approval process.

[ScytheBearer]

4 hours ago, ScytheBearer said:

It's okay for NexusMods to profit from the work of mod authors which is freely donated to their site, but NexusMods will not support nor approve of mod authors profiting from their own work.

 

3 hours ago, Khundiann said:

Last I checked mod authors do not need to pay Nexusmods to host their mods, and mod users don't need to pay for downloading mods. On Nexusmods you pay for premium website features, not the actual rights to download and use a mod. Comparing apples and oranges here imo.

I know that reading comprehension is no longer stressed in the education system, but I would think even you would understand that "work of mod authors which is freely donated to their site" means "mod authors do not need to pay Nexusmods to host their mods".  

As for the rest of your screed, NexusMods makes a profit, but without those free mods to share, where would NexusMods' profit come from?  Here again, I think even you are smart enough to understand that "no mods" means "no NexusMods".  So, NexusMods profits come from the work of mod makers, but NexusMods will not support mod makers who which to profit from their work.    

As for your fruit reference, all I see are sour grapes.        

Edited October 30 by ScytheBearer

[showler]

2 minutes ago, reiella said:

In fact, this is how Kinggath Creations released patches faster for EEE than the Bethesda approval process.

Funny you mention that.  I just searched this up to end this argument:

https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/details/65eb793d-9917-486f-9e60-1401ac0eafdb/East_Empire_Expansion_Modified__Patch_