Publisher-Approved Paid Modding Policy

[showler]

8 minutes ago, elpuertorro said:

Let's see how does the point system here work vs verified what are the differences?

Is this a serious question?

With Verified the Creator gets (according to you) a 30% share of the revenue of every sale of the mod in question.  A very direct relation between sales and income.

With DP a mod author gets a share of the total money pool each month based on how many unique downloads their mods had as a percentage of how many unique downloads ALL opted in mods had during that month.  The total each month is somewhere north of $350,000 depending on how much is received through Patreon donations, but that money is shared between all opted in authors.

It is extremely easy to see how a popular Creation could earn significantly more money than an author would get through the DP program.

[MadMonkey119]

11 minutes ago, elpuertorro said:

So then why not offer the split the other way around 70% creator/ 30% for them? is not like they need to pay for anything and it's all profit for them, so why not do that? if they REALLY CARE that's how they would have gone or at least even 50/50, but ok I guess you have the experience with Nexus right so you can actually talk facts... oh wait... hmm sorry but... you have no experience with the point system, and  my bad but I don't think you are qualified to talk about  how the points work as you have not had the opportunity of having the experience with it, so not putting you down or an insult just straight up facts, no experience with it,so how can you speak of it same goes for the verified program you in it? what was the offer for you, what was the split going to be
Let's see how does the point system here work vs verified what are the differences? I'm goiung to have dinner so that should give you planty of time to list out the differences of how they work as and i quote "It's also totally transparent and predictable" so i'm sure you going to have an answer with numbers to compare for me, so I can look dumb and stupid and have to shut up and leave this conversation.
Be back like in 1hr looking forward to the comparison.

"If nexus really cared 70% of all their profit would go to the modders, etc etc." It's a silly argument. Unless of course the monthly payouts from Nexus really are that large a percent of their profit. I don't think that's the case, open to be corrected. 

[trainwiz]

5 minutes ago, Arthmoor said:

Without going into specifics (not sure if it would violate NDA or not) I can tell you firsthand that it's not a 70/30 split in favor of Bethesda. That's the split you see in places like the Google or Apple Stores and nobody seems to have an issue with that. Bethesda's is much more fair, and while you may not agree they deserve anything at all, it IS their IP that anyone in the VC program is modifying.

So while they may not publish the split on the VC site, I doubt very much any of us would continue to participate if we thought it was at all unfair to us.

Todd's money is the reason my cats live like kings.

[showler]

1 minute ago, MadMonkey119 said:

"If nexus really cared 70% of all their profit would go to the modders, etc etc." It's a silly argument. Unless of course the monthly payouts from Nexus really are that large a percent of their profit. I don't think that's the case, open to be corrected. 

Pedant time:   Since you said "profit" rather than "revenue" I'd suspect that the average of $350,000 per month is pretty large portion of the "profit".

[Djlegends]

9 minutes ago, Arthmoor said:

Without going into specifics (not sure if it would violate NDA or not) I can tell you firsthand that it's not a 70/30 split in favor of Bethesda. That's the split you see in places like the Google or Apple Stores and nobody seems to have an issue with that. Bethesda's is much more fair, and while you may not agree they deserve anything at all, it IS their IP that anyone in the VC program is modifying.

So while they may not publish the split on the VC site, I doubt very much any of us would continue to participate if we thought it was at all unfair to us.

i'm still wonderin where they got that cut since last i've checked nobody in the VC progarm leaked the actual Percentage

[showler]

2 minutes ago, Djlegends said:

i'm still wonderin where they got that cut since last i've checked nobody in the VC progarm leaked the actual Percentage

Like Arthmoor said, that's the generally reported split for Google/Apple and it's well-known enough that it gets assumed to be true in other cases as well.  As I recall, people claimed exactly the same split during the very brief Steam Workshop paid mods period.

[HeavenNZX]

"Patches for/Dependencies on Paid Mods: We will not allow any patches or addons for user-generated content that requires payment to unlock (this specifically excludes DLCs offered by the developer - including DLCs that bundle items previously sold individually such as Skyrim's Anniversary Upgrade). Equally, if a mod uploaded to the site requires a paid mod to function, it will not be permitted. "

This is just stupid. I agree with the rest and think they are good additions to the community, but why wouldn't you allow people to release patches FOR FREE even if they require some paid mods? I can't even get started on how shitty and greedy this looks and the only people affected by this is nexus community since console players won't look here for the patches anyway and the patches released here in Nexus are made by players and for players..

[dabiggieboss]

THANK THE LORD! This is the best policy I've seen from Nexus. Get that filth out of here. I keep seeing patches for paid mods and I'm really glad Nexus is cracking down. There are also MANY MANY mods in permanent "paid betas" for better versions. Amazing news. I have no problem with mod authors making money, but I don't like it when it is done at the EXPENSE of the free modding community.

[Luridum]

14 minutes ago, trainwiz said:

Todd's money is the reason my cats live like kings.

Well, if cats benefit...

[elpuertorro]

23 minutes ago, FrumpyBadger said:

As someone who was operating with incomplete knowledge of the situation, I was willing to engage with you in good faith as a member of the community until you took this tone. In general it's worth considering that people will be more receptive to your argument if you hold the attitude.

Regardless, it's clear from responses from other posters that the system as announced in the past is not the same in execution as of the present; perhaps it's you who could benefit from doing a little more Googling before posting.

Excuse me, I believe I was very respectful and even with a little light joke in there, English is not my main language, so if I offended that was not the intention
Regardless, I can careless what people think about me I don't have time to paint a pretty little picture to not offend I go straight to the point, with facts as I don't like to waste my time or others.

ps: i did quote it as is in their page as of what 20mins ago? so unless something changed in the last 20mins: that is Their rules as they stand as i Type this and as i read them right now on their site.