Mod Browsing Overhaul Discussion

[showler]

I wouldn't say it's useless to discuss changes at this point, but I'd expect we're looking at refinement of an established new look now (plus the mentioned bug fixes).

Anybody asking them to revert the entire look of the site is literally years too late since the overall look was established when they were getting feedback on the Collections pages.  And asking them to maintain two versions of the site is just plain crazy.  It's hard enough squashing bugs for one set of pages when you update things...doing it twice would be too much.

And least useful of all is implying (or saying outright) that the UI designers they hired are bad at their jobs based on your personal tastes on how the UI should work.  Just accept that you might be wrong about what good design is for a large, diverse audience.

And for the love of peace, please stop blatantly insulting the people who work on these designs.  That's just rude.

[HadToRegister]

Here we go....I'm so sick of this, where people start arguing against people leaving their criticism of this site. It happens EVERY SINGLE TIME and just wastes space in these thread, because people are stuck wading through the “Not it's Not, the site looks good now” “What website are you looking at?”
We always end up with people defending the site, rather than just letting people leave their comments/criticism. FFS CUT IT OUT.

It's ANNOYING, and it happens EVERY SINGLE TIME. 

And it grows and grows until the people leaving criticism get shouted down, because we aren't gushing and lauding over terrible changes, which is what always happens on this site.
We've seen it many, MANY times before.

Because FEEDBACK threads always degenerate into a handful of people defending any and all criticism or OPINIONS, rather than just allowing people to leave feedback or complaints. 
God I hate Fanbois.

My Complaint is about ONE THING. The quick search. NOTHING MORE.
ONE THING. QUICK SEARCH. 

ONE THING.





 

[Isguros]

Maybe we're all a bit too harsh: They only completely botched 3 aspects of the site-wide update: the layout, the color scheme, and the search function. 

We always tend to focus on the things that went disastrously wrong, but this update has brought us good things too: people that can't use their right arms can now use the search function a bit easier and be as disappointed by the results/functionality as the rest of us.

[mfPixel]

2 hours ago, Isguros said:

Maybe we're all a bit too harsh: They only completely botched 3 aspects of the site-wide update: the layout, the color scheme, and the search function. 

We always tend to focus on the things that went disastrously wrong, but this update has brought us good things too: people that can't use their right arms can now use the search function a bit easier and be as disappointed by the results/functionality as the rest of us.

Hey @Isguros - the search results should be more accurate now (we let you include punctuation and also return partial query matches). Can you point me to any specific functionality or results that are worse with this update and we'll take a look. Thanks

[RomanR]

21 hours ago, showler said:

And least useful of all is implying (or saying outright) that the UI designers they hired are bad at their jobs based on your personal tastes on how the UI should work.  Just accept that you might be wrong about what good design is for a large, diverse audience.

And for the love of peace, please stop blatantly insulting the people who work on these designs.  That's just rude.

Sorry, but they brought it on them themselves. All big talk about an overhaul and result is, well... Really, next time they should let speak more their work rather than their ego. And all these complaints aren't just about GUI, there are others, like performance problems.  If these complaints insult them, then why make open beta at all?

6 hours ago, Isguros said:

Maybe we're all a bit too harsh: They only completely botched 3 aspects of the site-wide update: the layout, the color scheme, and the search function. 

Well, I still don't understand why quick search should need an extra window, but I can live with it. But others two directly impacted my user experience for worse, that's for sure.

And for your amusement - GUI of the Past and Today. Dwelling in the past isn't a good thing, but sometimes... 

[Battlestar1965]

4 hours ago, mfPixel said:

Hey @Isguros - the search results should be more accurate now (we let you include punctuation and also return partial query matches). Can you point me to any specific functionality or results that are worse with this update and we'll take a look. Thanks

If I may just add my thoughts about the new search function....What i feel is worse with this update:

1) Search opens a new page

2) The droplist (which stayed on the page you were actually looking at), is gone.

3) I would much more appreciate the results in a list form, not tiles with large pictures.

And as always, not only on the search page, you are wasting space to the left and to the right. Heck, I'm looking at a 16:9 screen, when will you ever use the space properly? And if you say it's because of the mobile phone users, then open a second NEXUS site which hosts mods just for mobile phones. You could call it "nexusmobilemods.com". Maybe you get some new customers over there, too (not me, though....)

 

1 hour ago, RomanR said:

And for your amusement - GUI of the Past and Today. Dwelling in the past isn't a good thing, but sometimes... 

Talking about old times...look at this:

 

The good old times...and hey, look, back in the old times they even knew how to properly fill a 16:9 screen.

[NexBeth]

5 hours ago, Battlestar1965 said:

If I may just add my thoughts about the new search function....What i feel is worse with this update:

1) Search opens a new page

2) The droplist (which stayed on the page you were actually looking at), is gone.

3) I would much more appreciate the results in a list form, not tiles with large pictures.

And as always, not only on the search page, you are wasting space to the left and to the right. Heck, I'm looking at a 16:9 screen, when will you ever use the space properly? And if you say it's because of the mobile phone users, then open a second NEXUS site which hosts mods just for mobile phones. You could call it "nexusmobilemods.com". Maybe you get some new customers over there, too (not me, though....)

I've heard Search opens a new page a lot from commentators, but I don't see that at all.  Search opens a large menu in front of the page you were on.  You don't lose the page you were on by opening Search. You can do the search and when done, close it, press ESC or just click on the page you were on and you are back to where you were.  

A list of search results is an individual preference.  I prefer the search with pics rather than a list.

I agree the formatting of the forums into 3 columns resulting in only 1/3 of the forum space available for active communications (the intention of forums) is not good for pc users.  Yes, wish there was a better solution that didn't lean in favor of smartphone compatibility.  This has been argued to death pretty much; doesn't seem likely to change.  Perhaps Nexus is preparing for the time when smartphones will be the dominate medium for NexusMods.

 

[showler]

1 hour ago, NexBeth said:

Perhaps Nexus is preparing for the time when smartphones will be the dominate medium for NexusMods.

I wonder if they're planning to add integration into the new app so that you can cue mods from your phone to download to your computer?

[RomanR]

43 minutes ago, NexBeth said:

I agree the formatting of the forums into 3 columns resulting in only 1/3 of the forum space available for active communications (the intention of forums) is not good for pc users.  Yes, wish there was a better solution that didn't lean in favor of smartphone compatibility.  This has been argued to death pretty much; doesn't seem likely to change.  Perhaps Nexus is preparing for the time when smartphones will be the dominate medium for NexusMods.

The best solution would be to make design which can take account an aspect of your display. Are the devs really don't mind scrolling these webpage noodles up and down like crazy on their PCs, because with wide-screen display you see only about little more than 10% of all content at once?  I feel that Nexus isn't a site for creators now, just for passive users and downloaders - a focus just for mobiles is more and more visible. Even with first introdution in about 2015 there were voices pointing out about disadvantages of such design and warnings of degraded user experience overall - all landing on deaf ears of course. But it's too late for crying over spilled milk I suppose.

[showler]

How much access do they have to modify the Invision software?