Will social progressivim become the new domestic terorism

[KakeiTheWolf]

What many people don't seem to consider is what "social progression" can be construed to being.

 

Social progressivism isn't inherently positive. The definition of progression, per the dictionary's definition, simply means moving towards a goal or destination. When you have the blind and uninformed leading the blind and uninformed, you may be progressing towards a goal, but it is not necessarily a good one. People seek comfort, not stability.

[HeyYou]

In this case, they seek what they percieve as "equality", which means, if you run a business that provides a service, and you refuse that service to someone based on YOUR rights, they can scream discrimination, take you to court, and either FORCE you to do it anyway, or get a pile of money from you.

[kvnchrist]

It's always easier to tell someone they must do something if all that is required is the effort of speech. Words are cheep and don't require any knowledge of the subject matter at hand. Actions, on the other hand require a certain amount of effort and many times also require a familiarity with that which is acted upon.

 

Activism today is pretty much instantaneous and can be done in the confines of one's own house on one's own computer. It is unnecessary for any research to be conducted and many who are idealistically attached to an issue may never take the time to ascertain the complete story or facts in any matter.

 

If they wish to define themselves by what they are not instead of what they are, they will react negatively to any action attributed by any source to those they are determined to oppose.

 

This is a relative perfect storm of self deluded mimicry that often lead those not burdened by the thought process to sign on to any list or any issue that their puppet masters tell them to.

 

This occures on either side of the ideological/political spectrum and does little service to society as a whole.

[HeyYou]

It's always easier to tell someone they must do something if all that is required is the effort of speech. Words are cheep and don't require any knowledge of the subject matter at hand. Actions, on the other hand require a certain amount of effort and many times also require a familiarity with that which is acted upon.

 

Activism today is pretty much instantaneous and can be done in the confines of one's own house on one's own computer. It is unnecessary for any research to be conducted and many who are idealistically attached to an issue may never take the time to ascertain the complete story or facts in any matter.

 

If they wish to define themselves by what they are not instead of what they are, they will react negatively to any action attributed by any source to those they are determined to oppose.

 

This is a relative perfect storm of self deluded mimicry that often lead those not burdened by the thought process to sign on to any list or any issue that their puppet masters tell them to.

 

This occures on either side of the ideological/political spectrum and does little service to society as a whole.

I dont' think that part matters any more. It's more about 'winning', and satisfying that sense of entitlement than anything else.

[Ghogiel]

It's like people actually think that what the daily mail writes is actually happening. Most of the issues and other nonsense that purportetedly goes on is blown so out of proportion it's ludacris.

 

Let's all vote UKIP :<

[KaiHatia]

You know what the word "assimilation" means? It means i adapt a curtain form of behavior out of pressure. When its cold during winter times, i have to wear a warm coat or i will freeze to death.

 

Nations and Tribes and Families formed because of assimilation. The only reason why immigrants and other groups will accept the lowest common standart of law and morals is pressure. It was all the time during history this way. Adapt our behavior or we will burn your ass on the Stake. And in the past, people hadn't white guilt complex and were so sorry about their imperialist behavior and that they were better then the rest of the world, they were proud of it. Social Dialoge? Screw that stuff. Dialoge with who? And about what? That someone in the minority can come here and demand extra rules for himself? Whats the point? Why should there be "social dialoge"? Also, progressivism is just a codeword for "socialism" and means the progress to change a society towards a socialist world view. All this 'social' stuff is mainly just a mindcontrol drug for people who wanna self medicate themself with this because they can't handle the reality. Strong walls make cowards and the whole progressiv movement rose up in the shadow of strong walls. They never had to face the real barbarism of this world and think we can all be friends, because they ever realy expierenced something else.

And what does 'antiquated ideals' mean? Ownership? Such antiquated ideals about something like Property and the right not to share?

 

No thanks!

[kvnchrist]

Idon't think progressivism has anything to do with any of what

 

You know what the word "assimilation" means? It means i adapt a curtain form of behavior out of pressure. When its cold during winter times, i have to wear a warm coat or i will freeze to death.

 

Nations and Tribes and Families formed because of assimilation. The only reason why immigrants and other groups will accept the lowest common standart of law and morals is pressure. It was all the time during history this way. Adapt our behavior or we will burn your ass on the Stake. And in the past, people hadn't white guilt complex and were so sorry about their imperialist behavior and that they were better then the rest of the world, they were proud of it. Social Dialoge? Screw that stuff. Dialoge with who? And about what? That someone in the minority can come here and demand extra rules for himself? Whats the point? Why should there be "social dialoge"? Also, progressivism is just a codeword for "socialism" and means the progress to change a society towards a socialist world view. All this 'social' stuff is mainly just a mindcontrol drug for people who wanna self medicate themself with this because they can't handle the reality. Strong walls make cowards and the whole progressiv movement rose up in the shadow of strong walls. They never had to face the real barbarism of this world and think we can all be friends, because they ever realy expierenced something else.

And what does 'antiquated ideals' mean? Ownership? Such antiquated ideals about something like Property and the right not to share?

 

No thanks!

 

 

I don't think that the orginal idea behind the progressive movement had anything to do with that and I'm certain that those within the movement, even in the last decade would like what is going on within it now. I think the movement has been usurpt by a new breed of individuals who have neither the patiance nor the skill to rectify any issue in any way other than they have. They are just as intolerant and selfritious as the moralist were in the past.

 

The reason, I think society embraces anything new is that it is ready to do so. I think those who, in the past had ilogical reasons for wanting something slowly lost their grasp on society because of their own absurdity.

 

I also think that the absurd way those who call themselves Social Pregressives today conducting their affairs they will soon loose the ear of the public and be catigorized as just as tyranical as those who oppose them.

 

This whole thing has nothing to do with liberal or conservative issues and has nothing to with gay or straight people. It has to do with snot-nosed idealists blinded by their desires to be needed and the idea that the ends justify the means.

 

Both the left and the right have these little zealots and they all are more enterested in proving something than improving anything.

[KaiHatia]

 

Idon't think progressivism has anything to do with any of what

Basicly it doesn't matter what you think the same way every occupy wallstreet protestor redefines for himself socialism and that we need to stop making socialism a bad word maaaan. The Word Progressivism itself includes a progress that should be made in a curtain direction towards social organization and all those things, who get done from above. Doesn't mean some laissez-faire "just let it evolve", Progressivism is creation. And the terms how they define their world view shows that it has the same narcissistic core as every ideology that is made up by people who think about themself, they are enlighted and everyone else is to stupid to live his own life. I mean read your own stuff how you talk about these people with 'antiquated ideals' and how these not realy defined people are the obstacle for whatever you want and think a society should be.

 

Who are those people and their antiquated ideals? I myself want to provide something.

[kvnchrist]

 

 

Idon't think progressivism has anything to do with any of what

Basicly it doesn't matter what you think

 

I call that a lot of bold talk from a one-eyed fat man. :laugh: You are entitled to your opinions, not the facts. I would ask you, if we are to discuss anything further to not be so arogant in your presentation. I don't take anything personaly, but I do ask the same level of decency from others that I give them or I simply put them on ignore and move on. Thank you.

[HeyYou]

They call it a 'movement' for a reason. (I would insert the term "bowel" in front of that, as it concerns progressives, but hey, that's just me.) They are trying to move society in a specific direction. Trouble is, as is typical with the human race, not everyone wants to go the same way. So, what we end up with, is those that scream the loudest, end up getting their agenda moved to the top, and society moves in 'their' direction. No society stays the same for very long, they change over time, mostly gradually, sometimes dramatically.... not all change is 'good' for the society, but, they don't figure that out until AFTER it becomes patently obvious that "hey, maybe that wasn't such a good idea after all." I just wish our politicians would learn to recognize a 'bad idea' when it slaps them in the face with the consequences. But no.... they will repeat the exact same behavior, and expect different results, and then act all surprised when the exact same consequence occurs again.....