kniggit92 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) If the imperials think it's nord nonsense, why do the emperors claim to be dragonborn then? Edited February 21, 2015 by kniggit92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) If the imperials think it's nord nonsense, why do the emperors claim to be dragonborn then?Where do they? I've never seen the Imperials claim that. The Nords certainly say it a lot, but Cyrods have never fussed about it. In fact, to Cyrdoiil, all Dragonborn means is being born in Cyrodiil. Edited February 21, 2015 by Lachdonin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kniggit92 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) the septims were all dragonborn... doesnt get more imperial than that... Edited February 21, 2015 by kniggit92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) We know that NOW, and we know the Nords make a fuss about it, but was it ever mentioned before? Did the people of Cyrodiil so much as mention Dragonborn Emperors? Did Uriel even use the words Dragon Blood? No one outside of Skyrim CARED. It was all Nord Nonsense to the rest of the world. The only 'blood' anyone else seemed to care about was the Alessian Bloodline, which we now know was the Dragon Blood under a different name, but it was never associated with dragons anywhere outside Skyrim. Edited February 21, 2015 by Lachdonin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kniggit92 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Are you forgetting about the blades? The dragon knights?The dragon transformation? The widespread worship of akatosh and Talos? The imperials know full well their emperors were dragonborn and their oldest group of warriors acknowledges the existence of dragonborns and even actively searches for them.. If anything, this *nord nonsense* was brought back to life by tiber septim, the imperial emperor. Edited February 21, 2015 by kniggit92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) The Blades were highly secretive and separated from all Imperial cults. Even then, they only started looking for more Dragonborns, in secret, after the fall of the Septim dynasty. And with the exception of Esbern, they don't seem to have taken much of the Dragonborn talk serioisly.As for the Dragon in the Temple of the One... Again, the Cyrods believed the story of Alessia's covenant, which fully explained the outcome. They didn't associate anything with being Dragonborn, it was about the heirs of Alessia and the pact with Akatosh.The ONLY time that being Dragonborn is mentioned outside Skyrim (the province and the game) is in the Myth of the Nerevarine, and we have been told explicitly that it's use meant 'Born in Cyrodiil'. And the only Imperial source we have that even uses the term Dragonblood is in The Oblivion Crisis, in Skyrim. Edited February 21, 2015 by Lachdonin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilfre16 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 the guilds, dont get me started on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kniggit92 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) The Blades were highly secretive and separated from all Imperial cults. Even then, they only started looking for more Dragonborns, in secret, after the fall of the Septim dynasty. And with the exception of Esbern, they don't seem to have taken much of the Dragonborn talk serioisly. As for the Dragon in the Temple of the One... Again, the Cyrods believed the story of Alessia's covenant, which fully explained the outcome. They didn't associate anything with being Dragonborn, it was about the heirs of Alessia and the pact with Akatosh. The ONLY time that being Dragonborn is mentioned outside Skyrim (the province and the game) is in the Myth of the Nerevarine, and we have been told explicitly that it's use meant 'Born in Cyrodiil'. And the only Imperial source we have that even uses the term Dragonblood is in The Oblivion Crisis, in Skyrim. Have you considered that dragonborn was a later invention by Bethesda and therefor somewhat lacking in the older lore? There's just no way the imperials don't know what a dragonborn is, or that their emperors were dragonborn, while every single nord does know. The blades may be secretive but they have no need to be secretive about this fact since it was not a secret. Not sure what you mean with the exception of Esbern either, there's only two blades alive by the time the dragonborn and alduin appear, delphine searching more actively for the dragonborn without having had contact with esbern for years and years. Edited February 21, 2015 by kniggit92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidbossVyers Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Back in Oblivion, Baurus said that Emperor Uriel could see more than lesser men because of his dragon blood, not to mention being able to wear the Amulet of Kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dongsaeng Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) I liked Serana but some of her dialogue... :confused: yeah, definitely wasn't sold on her being an ancient Nord vampire. In general I thought vanilla Skyrim was decent, with Alduin's writing slightly below average. The only major pitfall that haunts me to this day is the Dragonborn dlc. Jesus. Edited February 21, 2015 by Dongsaeng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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