I'd like to donate as anonymous

[sunshinenbrick]

 

In the light of current revelations over the past year or two, I would have to question the ability to have any legal anonymity. Other than if it were the case that the person was supposed to be.

 

Do not get me wrong though, I personally am wholly in favor of being able to choose whether a recipient knows who donated to them or not.

 

Please understand, the Nexus does not keep your payment information (not even for Premium Subscriptions.) But your payment PROCESSOR (PayPal, etc.) may require your real information to, you know... send your money to someone on on your behalf.

 

Since the Nexus does not, (and Dark0ne has repeatedly said it will not) hold people's money, the information passed to the receiving party is totally up to your payment processor and the Nexus does not, cannot, and will not, control that.

 

My references were to the revelations of Wikileaks and Edward Snowden and meant no inference to Nexus. Sorry for my lack of clarity on that :/

 

SNB

[Deleted6918717User]

Hi, I've used the Nexus often over the past few years, and I don't plan on stopping, so I thought it was about time to buy a lifetime premium membership. From what I can tell, the only justified personal information the Nexus needs is my country of residence, for tax reasons. I am interested in forking over eighty bucks, but I am not interested in disseminating my personal information any more than it needs to be. I'm not interested in lying and saying I live at Disneyland, either, if this might be kept in any kind of record. If the checkout form really is some kind of hard-coded failure of the forum software, the privacy policy isn't nearly explicit enough about what information is not retained.

 

In any case, I felt it was only fair to explain to you why I didn't go through with my impulse purchase before I left. I'm sure that sometime in the future I'll get that impulse again and come back, so I'm hoping this issue will have been resolved by then, especially given how trivial it is. In the meantime, thank you for running such a nice website, I appreciate it!

[Arthmoor]

I fail to grasp in what reality paying people anonymously would ever be considered legit. Anonymous payment + internet = automatically suspicious for most people. It's the kind of thing that screams "I have something to hide" even if you really don't.

 

Yes, I get it, privacy etc. Privacy on the internet is and always has been an illusion. You can fight it to a point, but when dealing with financials, it no longer makes sense to try and convince the world you really are Mickey Mouse, address Disneyland. Payment processors frown on this sort of thing and will quite often report it to the authorities.

[Dark0ne]

You can tell us you live at Disneyland, it's not like I need to know or even care where you live. But this is all about telling the payment processor where you live, at which point I (and only myself, none of the other staff) can see your address anyway because that's the way online transactions work.

 

So I can understand not sharing your personal details here (because you think we might be less secure that a multi-billion dollar company...questionable in light of recent news), but that isn't going to stop me, personally, from seeing your real address because you need to tell the payment processor (Pay Pal or 2 Checkout) your real details, as they are used to confirm you are the actual owner of the credit or debit card you're using, at which point I can see it anyway. Bearing in mind I most definitely cannot see your credit card or debit card details. It's all about fraud prevention.

 

So really, if people are worried about their address being stored on the Nexus, they can either write rubbish, provided the country is correct, or enter the correct details and then remove them once the process is done (which can be done from within the payment gateway on the forums),but either way, I can just login to Pay Pal or 2Checkout and see those details anyway...so it's all a bit of a moot point.

 

The same goes for any online transaction you make. Joe Bloggs working on the support desk at Amazon/Netflix/Steam/a big multi-national has access to your personal address. But what does that matter?

[sunshinenbrick]

I fail to grasp in what reality paying people anonymously would ever be considered legit.

 

Ha! Tell that to party doners and lobbyists :confused:

 

Joe Bloggs working on the support desk at Amazon/Netflix/Steam/a big multi-national has access to your personal address. But what does that matter?

 

Difficult to find out Joe Bloggs address though. Can't even visit a tax office in person anymore unless you're a CEO...

 

If its as important to know where the money is coming from, it should be as important to know where it is going too, no?

[Arthmoor]

 

I fail to grasp in what reality paying people anonymously would ever be considered legit.

Ha! Tell that to party doners and lobbyists :confused:

 

Except there are lists of these people for legal reasons. Nice try, but no :tongue:

 

(hint: That's what Mozilla inappropriately used against Brendon Eich)

[sunshinenbrick]

 

 

I fail to grasp in what reality paying people anonymously would ever be considered legit.

Ha! Tell that to party doners and lobbyists :confused:

 

Except there are lists of these people for legal reasons. Nice try, but no :tongue:

 

(hint: That's what Mozilla inappropriately used against Brendon Eich)

 

 

I know :rolleyes:

 

But seriously, some lists are harder to obtain than others. There are also such things as beneficiaries through which the paper trail can be easily set on a wild goose chase.

 

Don't get me wrong, I am all for transparency and legitimacy, but not in the case where it is one rule for some and another for everyone else.

[MotoSxorpio]

You can buy a PRE-Paid credit card at walmart for a few buck and use it to buy whatever through paypal.

[Deleted6918717User]

You can tell us you live at Disneyland, it's not like I need to know or even care where you live. But this is all about telling the payment processor where you live, at which point I (and only myself, none of the other staff) can see your address anyway because that's the way online transactions work.

 

So I can understand not sharing your personal details here (because you think we might be less secure that a multi-billion dollar company...questionable in light of recent news), but that isn't going to stop me, personally, from seeing your real address because you need to tell the payment processor (Pay Pal or 2 Checkout) your real details, as they are used to confirm you are the actual owner of the credit or debit card you're using, at which point I can see it anyway. Bearing in mind I most definitely cannot see your credit card or debit card details. It's all about fraud prevention.

 

So really, if people are worried about their address being stored on the Nexus, they can either write rubbish, provided the country is correct, or enter the correct details and then remove them once the process is done (which can be done from within the payment gateway on the forums),but either way, I can just login to Pay Pal or 2Checkout and see those details anyway...so it's all a bit of a moot point.

 

The same goes for any online transaction you make. Joe Bloggs working on the support desk at Amazon/Netflix/Steam/a big multi-national has access to your personal address. But what does that matter?

 

If I buy the membership with PayPal, I don't believe you can just log into Paypal and see my home address. I'm pretty sure they only share my name and email address. (Unless you're shipping something to me, in which case they'll give you the shipping address I selected.)

 

Still, that's beside the point. I'm not worried that Robin Scott is going to do anything nefarious with my home address, I'm worried that evil hackers will crack open the Nexus someday and swipe whatever's in the database. If you can't change the checkout software's "required" fields, you can at least clarify that my personal information won't be stored permanently on your servers. Your privacy policy currently says

 

• We do not store any credit card or debit card details on our own servers and all information is sent to our payment processors through secure Secure Socket Layer (SSL) technology for your security and peace of mind.

Like I said in my previous post, all that really needs to be clarified to make me happy would be this:

 

• We do not store any payment information, including credit or debit card details, name, or residence, on our own servers. All information is sent to our payment processors through secure Secure Socket Layer (SSL) technology for your security and peace of mind.

Of course, I hope my concerns prove to be overcautious, and thanks again for all your hard work!

[SirSalami]

Hi CitricBase. The Privacy Policy is currently under review and I'll definitely be taking your suggestion into consideration. Thanks for your concern and support!