Valve/Bethesda announce paid modding for Skyrim, more games to follow

[Silki08]

Should someone be paid for investing hours upon hours on creating something that others enjoy? In my opinion yes.

 

But how they're doing this is wrong. The author should definitely be paid more than 25% per commission. It's like a painter and his paintings. The painter uses the tools that he has to create something aesthetic, beautiful, or with a powerful message. The modder uses the tools at his disposal to create something just as much impact in the world of gaming. What valve is doing is basically a tax on creativity. "We are going to take 75% of all your commissions. If your mod is not successful, well we still get to keep that $99 that your mod made if it ever gets that high. lolz." That's really messed up.

 

I believe in rewarding hard work of the individual or a team that has and respects their vision. What I don't believe in is sucking 75% of the money from the creators and saying it is okay. Valve didn't make the mod, they just made a "service" that allows modders to charge money. And yet they take 75%? Something is very wrong with that.

[Bigmoose85]

We need to make a list of every mod maker that joins in with this pay of mods crap to black list them forever!

[zzjay]

In response to post #24570954. #24571409, #24571469, #24571539, #24571664, #24572149, #24572164, #24573034 are all replies on the same post.

nivea wrote:

TaboriHK wrote: I completely forgot about the theft angle. That was already a pretty big problem, now I imagine it's going to balloon massively. Ugh.

nivea wrote: What if the Unofficial Patches go to steam, so many mods need those and so many users need them.

Aedred wrote: Yeah, many awesome modders deserve at least the recognition for their creations. I totally understand the decision to hide away from this Valve storm.

Hoamaii wrote: Good point, nivea. What Valve is doing is the surest way to kill modder's resource, patches, fixes, etc. It's hard to imagine a way it could not infect the Nexus too... Damn.

insaneplumber wrote: If USKP will be on the sale.
It just shows how lazy and accurate Bethesda is.
Number of bug fixes in USKP/UDGP/UDBP/UHRP is mind boggling.

SvarogNL wrote: Having to keep an eye on the Workshop in case of thef leaves no spare time for Modding even. It becomes a fulltime job.

MelodyAven wrote: We will probably see a massive mod stealing to sell on Steam.I'm pretty sure lots of not-so-good people will take what is free here, and sell it on the workshop.
For my part, if this is how Skyrim modding is really going, I will have to say goodbye to that game. Shame, after almost 3 years playing it. Modding is what made this game interesting, and enjoyable even after countless hours playing it. If things continue to go as it is, Nexus will close and so will a lot of others, except those who will allow pirated content (cough). But yeah, in my opinion, this is the beginning of the end of the modding community.
Just my 2 cents here.
~Melody, out.

THIS ^

please anyone contacts me if something from me is being sold off...i'll sue them if needs be

[popcorn71]

In response to post #24571614. #24572234, #24572374, #24572469, #24572589, #24572669, #24572829, #24572854, #24572864, #24572984, #24572994, #24573004, #24573029 are all replies on the same post.

KaiserDeathIV wrote:

speash wrote: Signed

ShwayNorris wrote: Signed

Kerros wrote: Signed, thank you for the link

zzjay wrote: Will do tomorrow..cant open from phone :(.

I doubt it'll help...we can simply not buy em.

groupthinker1984 wrote: Way too soon for this kind of knee jerk reaction.

I agree that this COULD be absolutely disastrous. Or it could be wonderful. Or somehow both at the same time.

MrSpanky wrote: signed. passed the 7500 mark

Rigmor wrote: Signed

Ultrametal wrote: This means nothing to Valve, they just gonna discourage people from making mods, since anyone can steal the idea and sell it with a different color.

softail4life wrote: Signed...thank you

Mindprobe24 wrote: Signed

shaithlis wrote: Signed

jradik wrote: signed

Sites not loading. Too many people trying to sing?

[choco2114]

I make follower mods. This pay-for-mods system might discourage modders like me who rely on other's assets. =_= Edited April 24, 2015 by choco2114

[Silki08]

In response to post #24570954. #24571409, #24571469, #24571539, #24571664, #24572149, #24572164, #24573034, #24573214 are all replies on the same post.

nivea wrote:

TaboriHK wrote: I completely forgot about the theft angle. That was already a pretty big problem, now I imagine it's going to balloon massively. Ugh.

nivea wrote: What if the Unofficial Patches go to steam, so many mods need those and so many users need them.

Aedred wrote: Yeah, many awesome modders deserve at least the recognition for their creations. I totally understand the decision to hide away from this Valve storm.

Hoamaii wrote: Good point, nivea. What Valve is doing is the surest way to kill modder's resource, patches, fixes, etc. It's hard to imagine a way it could not infect the Nexus too... Damn.

insaneplumber wrote: If USKP will be on the sale.
It just shows how lazy and accurate Bethesda is.
Number of bug fixes in USKP/UDGP/UDBP/UHRP is mind boggling.

SvarogNL wrote: Having to keep an eye on the Workshop in case of thef leaves no spare time for Modding even. It becomes a fulltime job.

MelodyAven wrote: We will probably see a massive mod stealing to sell on Steam.I'm pretty sure lots of not-so-good people will take what is free here, and sell it on the workshop.
For my part, if this is how Skyrim modding is really going, I will have to say goodbye to that game. Shame, after almost 3 years playing it. Modding is what made this game interesting, and enjoyable even after countless hours playing it. If things continue to go as it is, Nexus will close and so will a lot of others, except those who will allow pirated content (cough). But yeah, in my opinion, this is the beginning of the end of the modding community.
Just my 2 cents here.
~Melody, out.

zzjay wrote: THIS ^

please anyone contacts me if something from me is being sold off...i'll sue them if needs be

Oh jeeze, if USKP goes on the sale team that's super controversial. For example, it is Bethesda's fault for releasing an incredibly buggy game. The people who are passionate about the game fixes their mistakes.

[Deleted6349286User]

This is so greedy by valve and bethesda. I have no problem with mod developers getting a more direct way of getting money. I personally think expecting people to pay for mods is silly seeing as a 200 mod list could easily reach the hundreds of pounds by the way things are priced so far. But for valve to take a 75% cut with developers pretty much shows this is a money grab. Any mod developer that supports this is retarded.

[DarkWarrior90]

This is it, this is the final blow to the PC modding community, RIP

[ScrollTron1c]

In response to post #24570954. #24571409, #24571469, #24571539, #24571664, #24572149, #24572164, #24573034, #24573214, #24573264 are all replies on the same post.

nivea wrote:

TaboriHK wrote: I completely forgot about the theft angle. That was already a pretty big problem, now I imagine it's going to balloon massively. Ugh.

nivea wrote: What if the Unofficial Patches go to steam, so many mods need those and so many users need them.

Aedred wrote: Yeah, many awesome modders deserve at least the recognition for their creations. I totally understand the decision to hide away from this Valve storm.

Hoamaii wrote: Good point, nivea. What Valve is doing is the surest way to kill modder's resource, patches, fixes, etc. It's hard to imagine a way it could not infect the Nexus too... Damn.

insaneplumber wrote: If USKP will be on the sale.
It just shows how lazy and accurate Bethesda is.
Number of bug fixes in USKP/UDGP/UDBP/UHRP is mind boggling.

SvarogNL wrote: Having to keep an eye on the Workshop in case of thef leaves no spare time for Modding even. It becomes a fulltime job.

MelodyAven wrote: We will probably see a massive mod stealing to sell on Steam.I'm pretty sure lots of not-so-good people will take what is free here, and sell it on the workshop.
For my part, if this is how Skyrim modding is really going, I will have to say goodbye to that game. Shame, after almost 3 years playing it. Modding is what made this game interesting, and enjoyable even after countless hours playing it. If things continue to go as it is, Nexus will close and so will a lot of others, except those who will allow pirated content (cough). But yeah, in my opinion, this is the beginning of the end of the modding community.
Just my 2 cents here.
~Melody, out.

zzjay wrote: THIS ^

please anyone contacts me if something from me is being sold off...i'll sue them if needs be

Silki08 wrote: Oh jeeze, if USKP goes on the sale team that's super controversial. For example, it is Bethesda's fault for releasing an incredibly buggy game. The people who are passionate about the game fixes their mistakes.

Nivea, i understand this will kill the motivation of many skilled and renown modders like you.

So about the "Wet & Cold" mod on Steam - assuming you had actually agreed on it being posted there, how much would the included hoods from your "Winter is Coming" mod be worth?
And who would decide that?


This will destroy the modding scene if nothing is done to stop it.

Edited April 24, 2015 by ScrollTron1c

[phantompally76]

In response to post #24572569. #24572664, #24572779, #24573134 are all replies on the same post.

phantompally76 wrote:

IgnacyOrder wrote: Im sure I wont be releasing my mod any more. I jsut keep it for myself because I dotn want someone now to steal it and make money for nothing. Or the fact I did use some stuff from modderss recources. Some people now may force me to pay for reeasing mod even thou its free. Makes me criminal then. I guess many modders wont want that problem

Youtuber mod showcases will die as well as it will be expensive hobby now

boulegue wrote: authors just like publishers will send their mods to reviewers for free so they get exposure

zzjay wrote: Lol you're right...i will never sell a mod...too many problems...of they close free modding ill jusy quit.

Modding is an hobby...not a job...if bethesda cant make thir own games pretty i dont see why to buy em at all...if i even have to pay for mods...mods are like essential for skyrim...without its worthless...

The question is how many of the irate modders out there tonight who are unendorsing chesko and isako's mods out of spite (which I don't condone, but totally understand) will in turn unsubscribe from Brodual, Gopher, and all the other popular mod reviewers that they perceive as being advocates for charging a fee for untested alpha content? So far I've only seen a reaction by Gopher, who was being diplomatically cautious about the whole thing.

I fear (and I really do hope I'm wrong) that this will also have an adverse affect on the Youtube modding reviews community. I'm not sure how many reviewers will risk losing subscribers, traffic and revenue by reviewing paid mods. Only time will tell.