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Steam and Bethesda remove paid modding from Skyrim Workshop


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@nbtc971

A lot of people keep making that argument, that this system goes down the toilet when mods break, cause you've paid money and there must be assured of a certain level of quality assurance.

well, user review systems have always existed to inform users about the sensibility of product purchases. Why have people suddenly forgotten about this?

Secondly, the mods that would have gotten the most sales are the cosmetic ones, the weapons, armors and skin mods. These mods seldom break, and any mod-author with half a brain wouldn't upload something that didn't function.

There would have been plenty of opportunists popping up all over trying to make a quick buck off of broken/ half finished mods for sure, but that brings us back to the user review system. One negative review and that mod will be exposed, it'll get buried and life will go on.

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+1 to you sir..

man are paying consumers a pain... The non-stop fix this and that and the freaking barrage of lets just say "mean words".. If you are getting some on your free mods now, that will multiply 100 fold. You cant say no to it cause they paid for it.. Edited by theblueshark
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Going to be honest with u, what kind of bottled life have u been living? U want an internet without hate? Have u been using the internet for long? U think ur the only poor type of sap to be flamed at? Bud if u cant handle this much on the internet then u need to not only stop modding but stop using the internet.

As for ur reaction. Ur the same as the the ones flaming u. U give ur points in a sarcastic sense and poke fun at the arguments that people have presented. U bring no constructive criticism. U say how u hate half the people here yet for some reason expect love in return. Knowing all this u still bother to post this comment.

Like really man ur acting like such a child. Plz grow up. This is the internet, ppl talk s#*!, if ur famous in a sense, ur going to be asked to kill yourself (this is not ok but at the same time how u going to stop it). U need to learn to ignore those ppl and work with the admins to better police the site. That's as much as u can ask or expect. If u want anything more u can go dream about it in ur sleep because if the governments of the world cant keep the internet free of piracy, torrents and child pornography what do u think u, the ppl at nexus and steam can do to stop trolls?
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Sorry "There are now winners" should have been "There are no winners". That completely changed what I was trying to say. Got to love typos. Edited by popcorn71
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@FavoredSoul How does a negative review make someone forget they spent money for a broken mod? Most people will care more about their hard earned money being wasted than the opportunity to leave a negative review in the hopes that it destroys a mod author.
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I've managed several brick-and mortar stores. I drive a truck now. Care to guess why?
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  On 4/28/2015 at 6:23 AM, Grug31 said:

Wow, so much arguing going on...

 

I've donated well over $100 to various mod makers, not an impressive amount, but it doesn't hurt. Depending on how good SkyUI 5 was, I might have bought that as well. Of course with all the backlash, it doesn't seem likely that they will ever release it now. Paid or otherwise.

 

I would personally pay to install mods like: ENB, SKSE, Sky UI, Race Menu, CBBE, Bodyslide ect. because they improve the quality of the game by so much.

 

I can see why people might be upset at the idea of paying for mods, they've been free since Morrowind, so I think people are used to that. The idea is that since they are making mods using a program provided by Bethesda, that those mods shouldn't cost a dime. What they don't realise is that it takes an enormous amount of time to create a mod. It takes even more time just to learn how to mod.

 

As an artist I can sympathise with the mod creators.

Do I enjoy making artwork? Yes I do.

Would I like to get paid for making it? Yes I would.

Would people pay for my artwork? Eh, debatable.

Have I had people tell me that the five years I spent drawing is not worth getting paid for/paying for? Yeah.

Have I had people tell me that if I want to get paid for my art I should get a job in art? Yeah

 

I'm not going to stop drawing because people won't pay me, but it also gave me less incentive to bother posting it anymore. Eventually I posted less and less, until I shut my account for good.

Sure, it's great for people to see it and I like that people do enjoy it, but in the end, you ask for a dollar and you get a slap to the face from the very same people who profess to love your work.

(Need an example? Just check the posts on the SkyUI page.)

Then they say that your mod/art "Isn't good enough to get paid for" or "You're just greedy now."

 

 

"People should only mod if they love making mods, not for the sake of making money."

This coming from people who don't make mods is the reason we are in this mess. They don't understand, sure it's a labor of love, but throwing a bone our way doesn't hurt. But do you really think most mod authors see a dime? Hell, most people don't endorse the mods they like, much less toss a few dollars the author's way.

Some don't care about being paid, but when the opportunity to get paid gets lynched less than 24 hours out the gate, that's pretty pathetic.

 

 

The vocal majority of PC gamers have become the most pathetic, whiny, garbage group of entitled meat bags, I hesitate to call myself a PC gamer now. We are on a downward spiral because nobody ever gets satisfied. Don't settle for mediocre, but don't expect everything to be handed to you on a silver platter.

i still have the opinion that a hobby shouldnt be paid for. yes modders are doing an awesome job, but its still a hobby. if they wanna get money for their work, they should search for a job as a game designer or however its called in murica.

 

and i would love to donate, but i cannot afford it.

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