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Well the reloaded storyline was OK, and believable IF ONLY they went on with it! But instead of continueing they abandoned it all and just came up with a completely different, utterly unbelievable bunch of bullpoo, to put it bluntly.

Amen to that.

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I saw Revoloutions (sp?) last night, and I dont get it at all... Where did the plot come from? What happened to Neo? What happened to Zion? What the heck happened to the Oracle? Why'd she let Agent Smith clone her? Why did Bane want to kill everyone? Why did they ruin a trilogy that could have been awesome!!!! :(
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See...that's what I'm talking about...they had explanations for everything, but they were the crappiest explanations ever. I mean...if you tried to explain the reason the smiths died is because the machines pumped Neo with a virus/bomb thing, why didn't they just pump that virus/bomb into another human a long time ago? I mean, Smith had assimilated every human in the matrix, from what I can tell, and since they're all connected or whatever just one of any of the humans pumped w/ a virus could have destroyed them. Why wait for Neo to come to the machine city to do that?

 

The first movie was good because it attempted to explain NORMAL everyday things in cool science-fiction terms(like deja vu is a glitch in the Matrix, for example). But the second two were just explaining the crazy sci-fi stuff with even CRAZIER sci-fi stuff, to the point that it just wasn't believable any more. The first one had me coming out asking myself "What if I really am in the Matrix? How could I know?" and the last 2 just had me coming out asking "WTF!?"

 

Ok, i said i had explainations, not GOOD explainations :D To answer the questions/accusations/insults (delete as applicable :P ), maybe they had to have someone who could... er... umm... give me a bit of time and i'll get back to you.

 

As you can tell, poeple who haven't seen this film, it is most definetly (sp) a fan film. The last fight is a load of rubbish (Reloaded had stupidly long fights, Revolutions too short, they should have just stuck to what worked in the original). The robot battle (which no-one apart from me has mentioned) is fantastic, and will tide over my bloodlust until the main course begins on 17th December (already booked tickets B) ). The philosphy is compelling to those who understand it *head grows with ego inflation* but the rest of the storyline is a letdown *head deflates*. See this film if you want to see an epic sci-fi battle coupled with an (Ok) love story (but you could say that about Pearl Harbour. No, forget that, i cannot compare that pile of albino guano to this. Never.)

 

Now you can move it to the spoilers page Switch :D

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Having read this review I no longer feel the urge to go and shell out £5 to see this movie and experience the supreme ugliness which is a multiplex cinema.

 

 

Hang on - I never felt the urge to see this movie in the first place....given that I wasn't all that impressed with the original Matrix movie (IMO the only film where Keanu Reeves ever gave an indication of acting talent was 'My Own Private Idaho')

 

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Having read this review I no longer feel the urge to go and shell out £5 to see this movie and experience the supreme ugliness which is a multiplex cinema.

 

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What she said. Eww. If what that guy said is true I won't bother :P I can wait a few months to get it second hand on DVD/video (by the sounds of it lots of people will want to be getting rid of it) ;)

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(IMO the only film where Keanu Reeves ever gave an indication of acting talent was 'My Own Private Idaho')

If you think his acting in the Matrix trilogy is bad, just watch Johnny Mnemonic. Keany Reeve's performance is literally hilarious.

 

 

 

Anyway, I cant say I'm that disappointed seeing as I wasnt the one who payed for me to see it and Reloaded lowered my expectations to say the least.

 

With that said, I still thought it was awful. As usual the fights lasted WAY longer than they should have, and for the most part the acting was a joke.

 

I still think that they failed to explain some things, such as WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED AT THE LAST QUARTER OF THE MOVIE!!! the only explanation the characters give is that "Neo saved us!" That may be good enough for them, but it sure isnt good enough for me.

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I saw Revoloutions (sp?) last night, and I dont get it at all... Where did the plot come from? What happened to Neo? What happened to Zion? What the heck happened to the Oracle? Why'd she let Agent Smith clone her? Why did Bane want to kill everyone? Why did they ruin a trilogy that could have been awesome!!!! :(

Sounds like you need to rewatch Reloaded. I found Revolutions to be a great film, and a fantastic conclusion to the saga. I'll admit that it can be a bit confusing, but here's how i understand it:

 

The "plot" i assume you mean Neo's olan to go to the machine city. By this time, Neo was able to connect to the source mentally, so it is likely he realised that Smith would take over and thought it was possible to make a deal.

 

For Zion, Neo saved it through his peace deal with the machines.

 

The Oracle was absorbed by Smith, but when Smith was destroyed, the Oracle (along with programs such as Seraph and the little girl) was freed from Smith.

 

She let Agent Smith clone her because she knew it was the only way to let Neo know what had to be done, by saying "Everything that has a beggining has an end." Neo understood this, and it was the only way the Oracle could speak to Neo at the right time, by talking through Smith. Smith doesn't take a person or program over as absorb them, hence the oracle talking through him and his ability to see the future.

 

Bane wanted to kill everyone because Smith took over him just before he was about to exit the matrix in reloaded, so Smith controls him in the real world.

 

As for what Neo did, I understand that it was like an equation. Neo was the positive remainder in the flawed equation, and Smith was Neo's negative as the Oracle put it. They were the (mathematically speaking) the remainders of a flawed equation, Neo the positive and Smith the negative. When Neo let Smith absorb him, the negative and the positive cancelled out, so not killing both of them but eliminating them from existence.

 

Hope that helps everyone, if there's anymore questions just ask.

 

EDIT: I forgot to mention for those who are curious, when the Oracle calls Smith a male without a father, she means it in the literal sense. In reloaded the architect calls himself the father of the Matrix and the Oracle the mother. This means that they are the parents of all the programs in the Matrix, including Smith. The Oracle and the Architect obviously not married, so Smith really is a male without a father. This also explains his reply to the Oracle "you would know Mum."

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Woohoo! Finally i have found someone else who understands what went on in that film! And, if i may say so, brilliantly explained by Reborn. For anyone else who didnt get the storyline quirks, see above. And to this:

As usual the fights lasted WAY longer than they should have

 

i think thats the complete opposite. The fights in Reloaded WERE way too long to the point where it was boring, but the ones in Revo were way too short. Correction, the end fight was too short, the starting one in the lobby was just about ok (just).

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