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[B00daW]

I've had NoScript and uBlock installed on Firefox for years now without having functionality problems on this site. On NoScript I enable nexusmods.com and cloudfront. All other scripts are analytics for site usage and ad distribution; therefore unessential.

 

I end up having to use Ixquick as a roundabout search query to and an element sniffer to find download links. This is ridiculous. What has changed and why?

 

I was even considering getting a membership today before logging onto the site, but I will not use the site if having a membership also involves me enabling tracking and ads. What's good for the gander is not good for the goose.

 

Nexusmods has provided me with so much pleasure and so much pain. Unfunctional software updates that have ruined hundreds of mod relationships, broken updates that uninstall mods without reinstalling them, etc. And you want money? I have a ton of it but is it a worthwhile investment?

 

If you want to act like a business your community is also a customer basis.

[Dark0ne]

I'm not quite sure why it's ridiculous for the site to not work if you're disabling scripts that the site needs in order to run. Can you explain your logic on that one?

 

We're not actively preventing people from using the site who use ad/script/tracker blockers (as in, nothing on the site checks whether you're using them and then does something to your browsing experience) but code on the site changes all the time, and we most definitely don't take in to account people who do use these addons/pieces of software. At the end of the day, what you want to block is what you want to block, but we're not going to go the extra mile when we're coding the sites to bear in mind those people who want to block things from working on the site. It's the risk you take when you block things. So, kindly, don't blame us for your choice of blocking things (especially if you have the audacity to admit you're using an adblocker, then complain...), and don't complain when we change our code which then inadvertently prevents your script blocking from working. Thank you.

 

If it worked before and now it doesn't, then I assume something was changed in the site code. It wasn't done to screw you over, it was done for other reasons, whether it be more efficient code, moving things around, security, or whatever.

[B00daW]

Assuming I feel "screwed over" personally or calling it audacious to be honest is a little inaccurate and over the line. Moving forward to not make this into an emotional debate:

 

The fact of the matter is that almost everyone knows at this point that 80% plus of websites have ads and tracking routines. Even Google coders are now waking up to the fact that people block them. How wise is it to enable all scripts and enable bandwidth leeching advertisements that may break immersion or are disruptive to your browsing experience? Complacency is also never an answer.

 

If you're the site owner you also are aware of profit motive. It's not personal against businesses if someone decides to block your revenue generating advertisements. The advertisements themselves and their content delivery and mannerisms is what usually initiates someone to block them. Javascript itself is an extremely insecure content delivery system and as a whole most security conscientious users do not allow Javascript; or run in a VM sandbox. Security is not just for servers.

 

I guess that's my next and only option. I'll find a way a completely asinine and convoluted method to setup Nexus downloads in a VM and SMB them to the main machine.

Edited October 27, 2015 by B00daW

[KunoMochi]

I'll honestly admit that I had been using NoScript and AdBlocker for every site I've been to. I have had no issues in carefully enabling the proper permissions to allow the site to be functional.

 

I have since gone through the habit of enabling all scripts and disabling the ad blocker for select sites that I feel I should openly support, and one of those selected sites includes Nexus Mods.

 

If you can't get the site to work with those plugins, then it is not the site's fault; you should be taking up your complaint with whoever made those plugins instead. Sites are not obligated to support script and ad blockers in any way. It should already be an understandable risk that users make when using them.

[JimboUK]

Assuming I feel "screwed over" personally or calling it audacious to be honest is a little inaccurate and over the line. Moving forward to not make this into an emotional debate:

 

The fact of the matter is that almost everyone knows at this point that 80% plus of websites have ads and tracking routines. Even Google coders are now waking up to the fact that people block them. How wise is it to enable all scripts and enable bandwidth leeching advertisements that may break immersion or are disruptive to your browsing experience? Complacency is also never an answer.

 

If you're the site owner you also are aware of profit motive. It's not personal against businesses if someone decides to block your revenue generating advertisements. The advertisements themselves and their content delivery and mannerisms is what usually initiates someone to block them. Javascript itself is an extremely insecure content delivery system and as a whole most security conscientious users do not allow Javascript; or run in a VM sandbox. Security is not just for servers.

 

I guess that's my next and only option. I'll find a way a completely asinine and convoluted method to setup Nexus downloads in a VM and SMB them to the main machine.

 

How do you think websites are funded? the magic money fairy? ads are a necessary evil, they keep sites like this one free. You can't complain about ads leeching bandwidth when that's exactly what you're doing by using the site and blocking what pays for it. If you're that bothered about ads why not become a supporter? I doubt $2.00 is going to break the bank.

[Dark0ne]

You can by all means tell me it's not personal, but when you're a small business owner who's spent the better part of 14 years, from the age of 15, trying to fund an increasingly demanding network of sites, things like this are very personal in nature.

 

To me, the concept of complaining about changes made to the site inadvertently affecting your ability to block ads, scripts or otherwise, is akin to complaining to a small cafe owner that they've changed the layout of the cafe which has inadvertently made it harder for you to reach the toilet, despite the fact you're someone who only comes in to use the toilet and take the free sachets of salt and ketchup before leaving without actually paying for anything. Just because there's nothing stopping you doesn't mean it's right, or "proper".

 

I'm sure for others, who aren't as emotionally and financially invested, it's neither here nor there. But for me, sure, it's personal. You can talk to me about proper business practise all you want, but if I was running this as a "proper" business, I'd have sold up and out years ago to some soulless corporation (of which plenty have offered) who cares way more about the $$$ than I do, and invested that money in my other business projects long ago. But I don't, and I haven't, because this project is personal to me. I've started other business and sold them, or my stakes in them, but the Nexus has been the one constant thus far. Thus, the string you're tugging on is of a personal nature to me.

[Yknotu]

Thank you for sticking with us Dark0ne and not allowing one rotten apple to spoil the barrel.

 

I love your site, it is nothing short of miraculous. If not for the Nexus connection and to modders that support this site, I would have abandoned this game long ago. As it is, I've also expanded into other games this site supports like Skyrim, DAI, Mass Effect and others.

 

The game companies should be subsidizing this site big time, in my opinion (if they aren't already). There are a lot of new games coming out all the time, a virtual plethora to choose from. If not for mods that re-energizes interest in these older, vintage games, they would have faded out of memory long ago.