Obama releases long form BC

[Kendo 2]

I apologize csgators. Initially the link redirected me Leahy's homepage and all the fluff. Clicking on it a second time gave the results you were shooting for.

 

Kind of funny that Obama supported the resolution and never followed through. :wacko:

[csgators]

I apologize csgators. Initially the link redirected me Leahy's homepage and all the fluff. Clicking on it a second time gave the results you were shooting for.

 

Kind of funny that Obama supported the resolution and never followed through. :wacko:

 

It was hard to find a link that wasn't someone simply making the claim that the Senate held hearings on McCain. The media doesn't like to talk about it.

[Vindekarr]

I just absolutely love this Republican idea of a "scoialist nazi" which is an oximoron and a paradox at once.

 

You yanks always react with terror when anyone says "socialist" but frankly I think that comes from A the cold war and B never having met a live one. If you want to know what a socialist is, by the American definition, I am one. BLAAAARG!

 

Socialism is for the most part, concerned with government intervention in daily life to try an erradicate major problems, such as the epidemic of binge-drinking related violence in Australia at the moment. But it also brings a number of significant benefits: corporations cant just by the ground you're walking on, foreign corporations cant by your resources, and most of all, you get all your healthcare, a good portion of your education, and much of your work training provided from the government, which ensures it comes from high-end facilities and at low cost.

 

But I was talking to an American gamer a few months ago, about this, and when I mentioned the concept of free healthcare via the government, he was literaly horrified, and replied "I dont want the **** government telling me what to eat or when to go to the doctor" Look guys, Socialism keeps the general population healthy and safe, keeps the policeforce well equiped. They're not nazis, they have nmo constitutional right to order you around, but the increased regulation, I can tell you now, is very much a good thing. If the government doesnt govern, why have one?

 

Never ceases to amuse me though, socialists, and to a greater extent communists, cause a reaction like a big spider, but like a spider, arfe absolutely harmless. We wont bite, we just think you've got a lazy government that's crippled by it's own rules.

 

(in our case, too well equiped. Seriously folks, why does a traffic cop need to carry a SigSauer .357 magnum? all he needs is a notebook and some tickets, surely he would be better off replacing his ghastly Camry with a sports car for the kind of money a Sauer .357 will cost you.)

 

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/Vindekarr/Flag_of_the_Peoples_Republic_of_Antarctica.png

Edited April 28, 2011 by Vindekarr

[Kendo 2]

Any takers on this one or should I have go?

[Aurielius]

I have found this so called controversy amusing, seems that only someone with a extremely bad comb over really gives a damn. BC presented, case closed. Now can we move on to really important issues that affect the country? Obama is going to run, the only remaining question is who is qualified to run against him and win...now that interests me.

[ub3rman123]

I don't really see though if it really makes a difference (Aside from the whole Constitution thing) if he actually was born in Kenya as people claimed. Seems like his policy wouldn't have changed.

[marharth]

I have found this so called controversy amusing, seems that only someone with a extremely bad comb over really gives a damn. BC presented, case closed. Now can we move on to really important issues that affect the country? Obama is going to run, the only remaining question is who is qualified to run against him and win...now that interests me.

Sadly, no republican candidate seems fit.

 

And Obama seems like another lying sellout.

 

I would vote for a moderate conservative if they got us out of the wars and only did minor economic changes.

[csgators]

I just absolutely love this Republican idea of a "scoialist nazi" which is an oximoron and a paradox at once.

 

You yanks always react with terror when anyone says "socialist" but frankly I think that comes from A the cold war and B never having met a live one. If you want to know what a socialist is, by the American definition, I am one. BLAAAARG!

 

Many of us do know what socialism is and we are already living under it in many ways in the US.

 

Socialism is for the most part, concerned with government intervention in daily life to try an erradicate major problems, such as the epidemic of binge-drinking related violence in Australia at the moment. But it also brings a number of significant benefits: corporations cant just by the ground you're walking on, foreign corporations cant by your resources, and most of all, you get all your healthcare, a good portion of your education, and much of your work training provided from the government, which ensures it comes from high-end facilities and at low cost.

Personally I prefer freedom. If I or someone else wants to binge drink that's their business but people should be held accountable for their actions regarding others. I do not want busy bodies telling me what to do every step of the way. I disagree with them but I at least do not attempt to use violence against them to get my way (unlike a socialist/statist).

 

But I was talking to an American gamer a few months ago, about this, and when I mentioned the concept of free healthcare via the government, he was literaly horrified, and replied "I dont want the **** government telling me what to eat or when to go to the doctor" Look guys, Socialism keeps the general population healthy and safe, keeps the policeforce well equiped. They're not nazis, they have nmo constitutional right to order you around, but the increased regulation, I can tell you now, is very much a good thing. If the government doesnt govern, why have one?

They are Nazis (National Socialists) the name may change and a few details but they are enslaving us through "kindness" this time around. Things like ignoring bankruptcy laws like in the case of GM speak to a government with too much power. Stop telling me what to do and stop using force to take the product of my labor. Just because you think money should be going to a million sources doesn't mean you have the right to hire people to steal the money to fund your Utopian vision.

 

Never ceases to amuse me though, socialists, and to a greater extent communists, cause a reaction like a big spider, but like a spider, arfe absolutely harmless. We wont bite, we just think you've got a lazy government that's crippled by it's own rules.

 

You won't bite? Try speaking your mind in any communist country past or present and you will end up in jail.

 

Edit: You can't even sing a popular song in England without going to jail these days.

(in our case, too well equiped. Seriously folks, why does a traffic cop need to carry a SigSauer .357 magnum? all he needs is a notebook and some tickets, surely he would be better off replacing his ghastly Camry with a sports car for the kind of money a Sauer .357 will cost you.)

 

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/Vindekarr/Flag_of_the_Peoples_Republic_of_Antarctica.png

Edited April 28, 2011 by csgators

[marharth]

I just absolutely love this Republican idea of a "scoialist nazi" which is an oximoron and a paradox at once.

You yanks always react with terror when anyone says "socialist" but frankly I think that comes from A the cold war and B never having met a live one. If you want to know what a socialist is, by the American definition, I am one. BLAAAARG!

Many of us do know what socialism is and we are already living under it in many ways in the US.

But I was talking to an American gamer a few months ago, about this, and when I mentioned the concept of free healthcare via the government, he was literaly horrified, and replied "I dont want the **** government telling me what to eat or when to go to the doctor" Look guys, Socialism keeps the general population healthy and safe, keeps the policeforce well equiped. They're not nazis, they have nmo constitutional right to order you around, but the increased regulation, I can tell you now, is very much a good thing. If the government doesnt govern, why have one?

They are Nazis (National Socialists) the name my change and a few details but they are enslaving us through "kindness" this time around. Things like ignoring bankruptcy laws like in the case of GM speak to a government with too much power. Stop telling me what to do and stop using force to take the product of my labor. Just because you think money should be going to a million sources doesn't mean you have the right to hire people to steal the money to fund your Utopian vision.

I agree with the rest of your post besides these parts.

 

1. I wouldn't say the USA is socialist. We have a few social programs but nowhere near socialism.

 

2. The Nazis do not match the modern definition for socialism. The Nazi Regime was a right wing government with a very strict class system.

Edited April 28, 2011 by marharth

[Aurielius]

Any takers on this one or should I have go?

Please do...though am thinking seriously of locking and loading myself.