Osama finally killed.

[Halororor]

Sorry for being unable to link a news story, but I'm posting from my mobile. After all these years, the face of terrorism has been removed. Whether somebody will take his place is yet to be seen, but for now, I am elated.

[micalov]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13256676

[Vindekarr]

There's already a thread of this going on, with a party in it in debates >>>>>>

[Illiad86]

oh wow..took long enough huh?

 

But excellent :)

[Povuholo]

A nice symbolic victory I suppose, but now all of us outside the US have to suffer from the whole 'USA F&%$&* YEAH!!!11!!!1 WE RULE!!!" patriotism crap again for weeks. :sad:

[DeTomaso]

Cold news. Since 2007 the Pakistani secret service exlusively deals with Hamza bin Laden, the youngest son of Osama, as the head of al-Qaeda. The assassination of the bogeyman is first mentioned in a Frost-interview on AlJazeera with the former Pakistani president Mrs Benazir Bhutto, a few weeks before her own assassination in late 2007. Remarkable was that Sir David Frost surprisingly did not react on the all-important information of the death of Osama bin Laden, there was no closer examination of the breaking news during the interview. After the death of Benazir Bhutto the information got downplayed in the media, allegedly it was just a misspelling or confusion by the former Pakistani president that was known for her intelligence, coldness and beauty. Edited May 2, 2011 by DeTomaso

[Retribution]

Too bad they killed him so quickly, they should have drawn it out.

[DeTomaso]

Too bad they killed him so quickly, they should have drawn it out.

 

Not they, just a he, the British-Pakistani Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, former MI6, a professional killer. So imo the winner in the kill and run game without victory ceremony on site is: Great Britain, the country in the West with the best secret service connections to Pakistan. However, the recent killing of the already dead bogeyman by the US puts a formal end to the myth of the two men from Saudi Arabia and Midland, finally. That alone is much appreciated.

[Vindekarr]

Watch yourself Ret...

 

Frankly, it's pointless to talk about "oh they should have done this" the man's dead and he aint comin' back-thankfully. Nonetheless I would try and contain your... enthusiasm. Yes, bin laden is dead, and that's beyond any reasonable doubt. Yes, revenge for 9/11. Yes, taliban leader six feet under aint much of a leader no more. But really, some of the comments I'm hearing sound like american-accented versions of the hatred and vitriol these people you're fighting are based around.

 

Do not hate your enemy: this only gives them yet more advantages, in adition to blinding you, and eventualy granting them the ultimate victory: turning you into just as bad a monster as they are. The Nuremberg Trials were the most important thing the west did during or after WWII. Certainly, the surviving nazis could have simply been rounded up and shot-Stalin himself suggested just that-but WWII was about idealogy just as is the war on terror(I fairly despise that term anyway) and if they simply shot the nazi leadership, then they'd be just as blind to justice as the nazis were. Thus, trials. The monsters responsible for the third reich stood before the world and were held to account for their actions in a just trial, which though it did nothing but difer their deaths, did send a message: we are not like them, we are better than them.

 

My biggest concern about militancy across the world-currently islamic, is what it may do to our society. Certainly, there's no doubt that the various insurgent groups need to be neutralised to secure our various homelands, but we need to be careful how we go about it. Im not talking about restraining use of armies according to some misplaced notion of a fair fight, Im talking about our idealogies, not anything physical at all. We're fighting borderline psychotics who represent a splinter sect that is nothing but an excuse for opression and butchery-we need to be careful that we dont end up standing for opression or butchery ourselves.

 

"Fight the Warp long enough and the Warp becomes part of you. You can hold it back for centuries, but one day you'll cross the line, become everything you swore to destroy, and undo all those centuries of effort" -paraphrased quote from Eisenhorn, Dan Abnett.

[DarkeWolf]

Too bad they killed him so quickly, they should have drawn it out.

The man (and I use that term very very loosely) was a monster. A soulless coward that shouldn't even have been called a human being. For all the lives that he's taken and ruined, the responsibility for the crimes under him... he deserves a lot more than a clean, one shot kill.

 

But all said, this is a LOT less problematic. I mean, if he'd been incarcerated, there'd have been all kinds of threats, and people being held hostage for his release, and a big bucketload of drama.

 

And end is an end. I only wish that I coulda been the triggerman. That woulda been sweet. :thumbsup:

 

Wonder what it's gonna be like with a new head tho. You can cut the head off a hydra, and another will only grow to replace it. :(