Site redesign - 2016 Update #1

[theMetamancer]

You guys rock!

[Beantins]

I really don't care how it looks - as long as the current functionality remains intact i'll be happy.

 

Love this site! If it increases the user experience then great, if you can attract more users and better advertisers as a result then good on you. Just remember the modders and mod users who've been using this site up till now.

[khmp]

As I was viewing that first mockup I started to get worried because I can't read latin... What a relief the second one brought. Amirite!?... I'll see myself out.

 

In all seriousness, looks incredible. Good luck on making it reality. :)

[moho25]

@BlindJudge --

 

The mock-ups look fantastic, really nice job by all of you.

 

I'm eager to test out new filtering and search capacities; a refinement of the existing implementation has been something I've been looking forward to for several years now.

[Deleted3507349User]

In response to post #34710005. #34726575, #34729035, #34740430, #34741895, #34744910, #34747220 are all replies on the same post.

DreamingGirl wrote: I only have one plea: PLEASE! don't give us infinite scrolls, give us pages and paginator! Infinite scrolls makes it a real pain to find things again later..

So far it looks ok tho

BlindJudge wrote: Oh no! Really!?!?! You don't like infinite scroll :(

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You'll be incredibly pleased to know that there is no infinite scroll and we have no plans to implement it :D

DreamingGirl wrote: Lol that is good to hear :D

I was just concerned from the pictures that says 'load 10 more' or 'load 15 more' as that is usually a sign of endless scrolling to get anywhere. So you are saying there will actually be pages, and not 'load 10 more' ad nauseum on page one?

Exoclyps wrote: Yeah, page 1... 2.... 3... and so one could be better. But I'm probably gonna be able to live with booth.

J.O.D. wrote: There are webpages that have both - page numbers, yet also the possibility to load more... actually it loads the next page on the same page...ehm.:-)

DreamingGirl wrote: As long as you can go directly to page 5 without having to scroll through pages 1-4, I'm happy :P

janishewski wrote: This /\ . Also a search feature for within a mods posts would be awesome. Mod authors get mad if you ask a question that has already been answered, but some mods have a thousand posts and old posts might not represent up to date info, so yeah. I appreciate people don't like the same questions being asked, but it is very unreasonable to expect people to go through hundreds of posts and dozens of pages to search out answers to questions that may not exist, or may represent out of date answers.

This is why it's good to use the 'report a bug' feature for mods. Any bug reports and the response to them can be easily seen without having to wade through 10 years of random posts. Not a complete solution, of course, but it goes a long way.

[Elianora]

In response to post #34736140. #34740360 is also a reply to the same post.

EnaiSiaion wrote: So instead of mods of the week, we are putting most endorsed mods of all time (or 30 days, which is the same thing) front and center?

Ok, unless your newly released mod can beat Immersive Armors, it's stillborn. GG.

Exoclyps wrote: Yeah, I wonder how that trending one is acting. Since all mods in the 2nd picture are mods I already know about it'd be of little use to me. I kinda like how it currently is on that front.

Those are just random example mods put in place on the demo images to display the design, people should look at the design and functionality, not the mods listed on there >_>

[Elianora]

In response to post #34714565. #34718485, #34720180, #34724595, #34724720, #34725835, #34730065, #34730915, #34731110, #34731435, #34735740, #34736680, #34742940 are all replies on the same post.

Rooker75 wrote: I'm sure someone's brought this up already, but I'll say it anyway, this site isn't the friendliest to mobile devices as it is now. Text is too small, some important menu buttons rely on a mouse hover event that's impossible for a touch screen and the search box at some point stopped accepting the "enter" button as input (also a problem on desktop browser), so it makes it extra awkward searching from a tablet/phone.

Also, I despise white text against black backgrounds and wish I could choose a more usable color theme, like I can on the forum part of the site. More than a few minutes gives me serious eye strain. I can override the colors on my PC's browser but it makes everything look weird. I can't do that at all on my tablet.

epoling wrote: Am I just old? I don't get reading this site on a phone. You only get a few lines of text that is too tiny for these old eyes to read. By the time you crowd all the necessary functions of Nexus onto a mobile screen you get even less text unless you make it tinier. Just because things can be done on mobile devices doesn't really make it a good idea.

Pagafyr wrote: No! You're not getting old. You are getting worn out, likely following the incorrect guidelines for your continued health and wellness. The tiny mobile phone screens tend to strain the eyes a person who is beginning to suffer from lack of solar or HappyLight during the Winter months when the days are shorter. Get a couple HappyLights in you rooms and you'll see the difference after following the instructions CAREFULLY for them.

llihP wrote: As the new design stands, it's very mobile/tablet friendly.

jim_uk wrote: Does anyone know what those menu buttons at the top do? if clicking them brings down a menu then that's fine, if clicking them takes you off somewhere then it's going to have to same problem as the site does now.

llihP wrote: They bring down menus, yes

jpsimonetti wrote: Regarding Epoling's post.

I have no idea why you'd want to look at this site on a mobile. Are you going to download the addon to your Mod Manager on your mobile? Can your mod browsing not wait until you get home? Seems like a huge waste of resources to expect a site like this to cater to that demand. I'd like to see stats on what devices most of their traffic comes from.

I realize things change, but I hate to see it happen sometimes. This site, for example, is a classic web site design. It is sleek, incredibly fast and responsive, and easy to find what you're looking for without pictures and shiny objects everywhere.

What you kids probably don't notice (because you grew up with it), is the very slight delay in highlighting when you mouse over all those fancy new tiles people keep making sites with. When you mouse over text or a raw html img insert, it highlights instantly. (as you'd see on a classic website, like this). For a generation that is so easily distracted, you'd think they would notice.

That's not a big deal if you're used to it. But there are lots and lots of these "not a big deals" on modern websites. Kids will never really understand how fast and responsive a web site can be, because they rarely see them. They think it means bandwidth/load time when people say a web page is fast and responsive. It doesn't. Or didn't used to, anyway. Now things are ridiculously cluttered with raw text in HTML replaced by a script or image at every possible place.

Anyway, things change. Whatever. Just ranting.

llihP wrote: "I have no idea why you'd want to look at this site on a mobile."

Think of everything you can do on the site, then take away the ability to download mods or install NMM.

NerevarineKhajiit wrote: jpsimonetti I agree with you. I can't see why one would want to browse mods on mobile when you can't actually do anything with them on your mobile (unless somehow the Nexus starts supporting mobile App mods?).

I can see wanting to reply to a conversation thread on a mod, but you can do that through forums, or honestly, just pinch-and-zoom to the comments section. I've even done it myself, and it works great.

That being said, I'm all for a better website if it means they can expand functionality. I'd prefer they give us options, perhaps even a skin system or something that can restore the look of the current site if you get nostalgic, but I see no problems in looking to make improvements.

Rooker75 wrote: I want to use a mobile device because I have nearly 50 mods published on this site and want to check them for comments, questions and bug reports while I'm playing the games I've modded. I use several hundred mods for several games supported here and want to look at their mod pages or comments if I'm having a problem or can't find whatever the mod added. I use the forums and want to read them without closing a game or whatever else it is I'm doing on my PC.

These things are difficult to do with a mobile device with the current design, mainly because of the menus that need a mouse to hover over them.

And I am not a kid. I am 40 years old and have, among other things, designed and operated several websites myself. Nothing done for the sake of being more usable on mobile will effect what it looks like on a PC browser because that sort of thing is handled by style sheets.

TrophiHunter wrote: I use this site on my phone to check my mods and stuff, the site take ages to load atm, so this new beast might be the answer to my modding prayers :)

EnaiSiaion wrote:

The tiny mobile phone screens

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jim_uk wrote: @jpsimonetti Phones are commonly used for browsing these days and people come here for more than just downloading mods. If I just want to read the forums, catch up on comments, browse the imageshare etc then it's far quicker and easier to pick up the phone or tablet than it is to turn the desktop on.

@epoling Maybe you need to update your phone, pick a phablet sized one and you'll see more than a few lines of text.

"OH NOES PEOPLE ARE LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE! STOP IT IMMEDIATELY!!!!"

I am a mod author with dozens and dozens of mod pages to keep up with, interactions with other authors to have, user images to check... I live and breathe mods and this community. Even if I'm not downloading mods, I want to see what's new in the community, image shares, video share.. and all this across several games..

I look at Nexus with my phone when I sit in the bus.
I look at Nexus from a tablet in bed.
I browse mods when I sit in the toilet.
I look at mod comments from my phone when I am in game and waiting for a loading screen to pass.

Just because you don't like X, it doesn't mean there is anything wrong with X, and being aggressive and ranty about it just makes people not take your opinion seriously.

[PaladinCarnage]

In response to post #34721635. #34724495, #34739595, #34739755, #34746780 are all replies on the same post.

hishutup wrote: I think there is the problem with the whitespace on the sides of the page. Most users are using the standard widescreen displays and the sides usually go to waste, why not display more info like a wider list of pictures.

With ulta wides starting to come into play they will suffer from this issue even more.

llihP wrote: The sides of the page have been left open like that for a few reasons, one of those is a requirement for ads that need to run in a side skin format.

Since the site is build in a modular way, it's easy to build upon it later on for even wider screens if the need arises.

hishutup wrote: I pay so I don't want blank space for ads, I rather have the space properly used for a better experience.
For people that have ads, just reduce the width of the modules.

llihP wrote: Here's one of the other 'few' reasons, I was talking about this the other night. Let me quote myself:

"...scanning left to right with a width of 1400px is a bit much when reading. It's why you'll never find a newspaper with text spanning across each page for the full width..."

And that was said after having designed a page with such a large width.

If there's no limit in place, you're effectively leaving articles, result pages etc to the width of the browser, and I wouldn't exactly call looking from one end of my 27" monitor to the other the greatest experience, especially for reading. My neck would definitely be getting a swivel-like workout.

If you look at Steam stats you'll also see that the vast majority of gamers are on 1080p or below.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Then there's the cost effectiveness, how much you'd benefit from such a design, how such a design would work across all the templates, how practical it'd be and so on. At the end of the day it's not up to me, but there's more to consider than just the fact that ads will make use of this space that would otherwise be empty anyway. As I previously mentioned, at least it's easier to build upon now.

TheThirdRace wrote: "...scanning left to right with a width of 1400px is a bit much when reading. It's why you'll never find a newspaper with text spanning across each page for the full width..."

Sorry, but that's rubbish. Newspapers are designed in sections and subsections, blocks and sub-blocks, etc, but taken as a whole they do span across the entire page.

People aren't asking for 1 block to span the whole screen, they're asking for putting more sections/blocks in a given screen.

The Nexus is designed the same way as newspaper are, it is divisible by sections and subsections, blocks and sub-blocks, etc., it just doesn't span across all the available space for whatever reason.

I'm all for more space between sections, making the site breath and whatnot, but I do have a problem when all that space is used to compress the information in a tight and tiny block on the screen because it displays better on mobile...

For example, with the current layout I have 2/3 of my screen unused. All the information is tightly compressed in the remaining 33% of my screen. If you can't see how it's wasted space I guess you will never understand...

I agree with this,using a 1080p monitor and the empty spaces are such a waste,i'd rather see some content on the sides instead of a background image.

[yzerman19]

I have had one problem when use Nexus on my phone...when I try to look at the FILES, the drop down list disappears so quickly, I can't click on the thing I want to look at. Maybe this has been now addressed or will be in the near future. I use a Motorola phone.

[Pivotxyz]

Guys, a thing that I always thought could be good about the categories (its a simple thing), is to separate the "Models & Textures" to actually "Models > Clothing and Armor" and "Textures".

 

As for the new site itself, it looks good. :)