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In response to post #35668982. #35669217, #35669442, #35669712, #35670282, #35671002, #35671772, #35671817, #35672302, #35672427, #35672697, #35674332, #35674357, #35674752 are all replies on the same post.

 

 

 

gx240 wrote: Yet another mod that's going to be ruined by terrible amateur voice acting. There are few things that can kill immersion in an otherwise sublime RPG like finding yourself suddenly listening to stilted and overacted lines recorded by some guy in his basement. (And it's even worse when they try to do accents.)

 

I'm really disappointed because I was looking forward to playing this until now. For the life of me I have never been able to figure out how this happens, but for some reason a lot of modders and mod teams really can't listen to their own voice acting objectively and realize how atrocious it is.

SikSikSikki wrote: It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free. Skywind does still have a certain standard for quality, though, that you seemed to have overlooked. Sure, not every single voice is going to win an award, but most of it sounds pretty damn good regardless.

 

Besides, it's not like the TESRenewal team woke up one day and thought to themselves "Man, we better make this perfect for gx240", and it's stupid to say this entire thing sucks because of one comparatively small aspect that isn't perfect.

Rhyme17 wrote: ruined huh

 

guess you couldn't possibly turn off the voices or replace the files with blanks yourself

gx240 wrote: "Besides, it's not like the TESRenewal team woke up one day and thought to themselves "Man, we better make this perfect for gx240"

 

Wow, SikSikSikki, you sure raised a great point there! I guess no one should ever be allowed to critique any work under any circumstances, because if anyone ever criticizes anything you can say "Hey, they didn't make it just for you."

 

What a genius you are! You should go write letters to everyone who reviews restaurants and tell them "They didn't create that recipe just for you, therefore you're not allowed to evaluate the quality of the food." You should demand a stop to movie reviews as well. Why don't you go over to IMDB and RottenTomatoes and tell everyone that they shouldn't be allowed to review anything. It'll keep you busy at least.

 

"It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free."

 

Obviously. I never said it was.

 

"Skywind does still have a certain standard for quality, though, that you seemed to have overlooked."

 

And that is the exact same thing that every modder says right before delivering the aforementioned cringe-inducing experience. Find me a mod creator who says "I have no standard for quality."

Stiubhard wrote: I do know what you mean though...the voice for Patsy the Messenger in the Skyrim Helgen Rebuilt mod is awful...the worst Scottish accent since groundkeeper Willie, and although it is only a small part to kickstart the modit really did detract for me.
Elagabalaus wrote: I understand your point, but still, it's a great goal they set for themselves even with all the limitations set upon them. I bet some of the volunteers even donated some of their own money to see this come to life. At least give them the credit they deserve. You can't s*** on hard work because of one fault. Anyways, I'm excited for this, looks better than TES:O tbh, lmao.
webyan wrote: Are you volunteering for some great professional voice acting? I never knew that free mods carried the expectation of paid work behind them.

 

Any kind of voice acting will be an upgrade to Morrowind regardless, all I remember from that game is reading through walls of text. Which you can achieve by muting voice sound.

 

It would be too much to ask to just wait and see how the product will actually turn out, though, so I completely understand your point...

 

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Bah

beggarmaster2000 wrote: they turned down my offer helping out with audio quality.

reply was under qualified, not serious and demanded personal information

MotionBlurr wrote: same here. Ive been a dj for 10 years and with countless hours behind producing mixes, leveling audio, and mastering.... you think i would have enough experience.
Bleako wrote: You can critique the quality of the voice overs however you want gx240, but you should also have realistic expectations. The Skywind team do not have the necessary funding to record professional-level audio nor do they have a large selection of voice actors to choose from, and this is also the case for the vast majority of other mods out there (even in other games.)

 

This is a massive project entirely developed by volunteers. They have quality standards for sure, but there's a limit to what they can do, and you should manage your expectations accordingly instead of wasting time saying the obvious. Stick to retail games if you can't enjoy volunteer voice work.

Rioplats wrote: Since they're taking lines from external volunteers, the core team can objectively select and filter out acceptable voice performances. Did you watch the video? The ones they sampled, at least, for the video, have been very decent.

They can always retconn it afterwards if people don't like a certain voice. I'm sure they won't take offence.

DragomirTheSlav wrote: Which voices are you referring to, gx240? The strain to get the audio and acting quality as good as possible in a volounteer project is very big. Many of them already do a better job than many Skyrim voice actors. Just listen to Farengar.
DragomirTheSlav wrote: Skyrim voice acting:

 

Skywind voice acting:

 

https://youtu.be/77OxmQohtHc?t=239

AlixIsAXenomorph wrote: Idk but I thought the one guy that did the dunmer that was shown first was really good.

i LOVE bad voice acting its pretty funny. why do people care so much about immersion?

 

 

My thinking exactly - I love voiceacting of some mods, esp. those funny, not pretending they are professional :p And yes, I actually dislike some voiceacting in some AAA games, that is labelled professional and I tend to really like some voices in some games, that were really criticized as "bad voiceacting".

 

Btw I really liked voiceacting of 3dnpc - all of them really great.

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In response to post #35668982. #35669217, #35669442, #35669712, #35670282, #35671002, #35671772, #35671817, #35672302, #35672427, #35672697, #35674332, #35674357, #35674752 are all replies on the same post.


gx240 wrote: Yet another mod that's going to be ruined by terrible amateur voice acting. There are few things that can kill immersion in an otherwise sublime RPG like finding yourself suddenly listening to stilted and overacted lines recorded by some guy in his basement. (And it's even worse when they try to do accents.)

I'm really disappointed because I was looking forward to playing this until now. For the life of me I have never been able to figure out how this happens, but for some reason a lot of modders and mod teams really can't listen to their own voice acting objectively and realize how atrocious it is.
SikSikSikki wrote: It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free. Skywind does still have a certain standard for quality, though, that you seemed to have overlooked. Sure, not every single voice is going to win an award, but most of it sounds pretty damn good regardless.

Besides, it's not like the TESRenewal team woke up one day and thought to themselves "Man, we better make this perfect for gx240", and it's stupid to say this entire thing sucks because of one comparatively small aspect that isn't perfect.
Rhyme17 wrote: ruined huh

guess you couldn't possibly turn off the voices or replace the files with blanks yourself
gx240 wrote: "Besides, it's not like the TESRenewal team woke up one day and thought to themselves "Man, we better make this perfect for gx240"

Wow, SikSikSikki, you sure raised a great point there! I guess no one should ever be allowed to critique any work under any circumstances, because if anyone ever criticizes anything you can say "Hey, they didn't make it just for you."

What a genius you are! You should go write letters to everyone who reviews restaurants and tell them "They didn't create that recipe just for you, therefore you're not allowed to evaluate the quality of the food." You should demand a stop to movie reviews as well. Why don't you go over to IMDB and RottenTomatoes and tell everyone that they shouldn't be allowed to review anything. It'll keep you busy at least.

"It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free."

Obviously. I never said it was.

"Skywind does still have a certain standard for quality, though, that you seemed to have overlooked."

And that is the exact same thing that every modder says right before delivering the aforementioned cringe-inducing experience. Find me a mod creator who says "I have no standard for quality."
Stiubhard wrote: I do know what you mean though...the voice for Patsy the Messenger in the Skyrim Helgen Rebuilt mod is awful...the worst Scottish accent since groundkeeper Willie, and although it is only a small part to kickstart the modit really did detract for me.
Elagabalaus wrote: I understand your point, but still, it's a great goal they set for themselves even with all the limitations set upon them. I bet some of the volunteers even donated some of their own money to see this come to life. At least give them the credit they deserve. You can't s*** on hard work because of one fault. Anyways, I'm excited for this, looks better than TES:O tbh, lmao.
webyan wrote: Are you volunteering for some great professional voice acting? I never knew that free mods carried the expectation of paid work behind them.

Any kind of voice acting will be an upgrade to Morrowind regardless, all I remember from that game is reading through walls of text. Which you can achieve by muting voice sound.

It would be too much to ask to just wait and see how the product will actually turn out, though, so I completely understand your point...

...
...
Bah
beggarmaster2000 wrote: they turned down my offer helping out with audio quality.
reply was under qualified, not serious and demanded personal information
MotionBlurr wrote: same here. Ive been a dj for 10 years and with countless hours behind producing mixes, leveling audio, and mastering.... you think i would have enough experience.
Bleako wrote: You can critique the quality of the voice overs however you want gx240, but you should also have realistic expectations. The Skywind team do not have the necessary funding to record professional-level audio nor do they have a large selection of voice actors to choose from, and this is also the case for the vast majority of other mods out there (even in other games.)

This is a massive project entirely developed by volunteers. They have quality standards for sure, but there's a limit to what they can do, and you should manage your expectations accordingly instead of wasting time saying the obvious. Stick to retail games if you can't enjoy volunteer voice work.
Rioplats wrote: Since they're taking lines from external volunteers, the core team can objectively select and filter out acceptable voice performances. Did you watch the video? The ones they sampled, at least, for the video, have been very decent.
They can always retconn it afterwards if people don't like a certain voice. I'm sure they won't take offence.
DragomirTheSlav wrote: Which voices are you referring to, gx240? The strain to get the audio and acting quality as good as possible in a volounteer project is very big. Many of them already do a better job than many Skyrim voice actors. Just listen to Farengar.
DragomirTheSlav wrote: Skyrim voice acting:


Skywind voice acting:


https://youtu.be/77OxmQohtHc?t=239
AlixIsAXenomorph wrote: Idk but I thought the one guy that did the dunmer that was shown first was really good.

i LOVE bad voice acting its pretty funny. why do people care so much about immersion?

 

 

My thinking exactly - I love voiceacting of some mods, esp. those funny, not pretending they are professional :p And yes, I actually dislike some voiceacting in some AAA games, that is labelled professional and I tend to really like some voices in some games, that were really criticized as "bad voiceacting".

 

Btw I really liked voiceacting of 3dnpc - all of them really great.


@ GX240
What a genius you are! You should go write letters to everyone who reviews restaurants and tell them "They didn't create that recipe just for you, therefore you're not allowed to evaluate the quality of the food." You should demand a stop to movie reviews as well. Why don't you go over to IMDB and RottenTomatoes and tell everyone that they shouldn't be allowed to review anything. It'll keep you busy at least.

The big difference is that we pay for restaurants and movies.
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Bridgitte01 wrote: sorry but I really don't want to go reading through everything below - just a quick question, with SE out will this mod/DLC be put on hold - and when can we expect it to come out?

Do I need to also have Morrowind installed on my pc? I have the whole combo box from first game of Arena to last, except Dawnguard was bought separately as I think it was the last DLC - but I have not loaded Morrowind or Oblivion and their expansions on - so would I need to?


I believe on their website it says you will need all content (original plus DLC) for morrowind and skyrim to run the mod, same goes for the skyblivion mod
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