chucksteel Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I am still playing Fallout 4 in its original state. I haven't installed a single patch yet... I guess I will have to when I get around to playing Automatron. But I figure if it isn't broke, why fix it? Fallout 4 is a great game right out of the box/steam download, and worth twice the price Bethesda charges for it. That is what matters. And yes, I actually did pay money for a car that has a decent amount of things that need fixed. It was a good deal for a car that I saw a lot of potential in and something I could take pride in fixing. I am very happy I chose the pretty car with its problems over something boring. But I don't think Fallout 4 was ever broke, but I'm just saying, you are being illogical on both points. If you bought a used car, like second hand, it's okay, but if it's supposed to be new, from conveyor, than you just let fool yourself. This happens all the time Why do you think they have Dealer Recalls? I'm not sure if you know but things are made by Humans and well Humans do make mistakes. I can't understand why your so full of Rage over something as simple as a game. You should be happy that beth didn't just release the game do some Mock Support for the time there legally required to and then wash there hands of it. It seems that they are trying to add features updates and bugfixes not just push out some crap DLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenderer Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 This happens all the time Why do you think they have Dealer Recalls? I'm not sure if you know but things are made by Humans and well Humans do make mistakes. I can't understand why your so full of Rage over something as simple as a game. You should be happy that beth didn't just release the game do some Mock Support for the time there legally required to and then wash there hands of it. It seems that they are trying to add features updates and bugfixes not just push out some crap DLC. Seems you don't understand what quality product should be, or may be forgot. Anyway i don't see a point to continue this worthless dispute. If you feel fine consuming lazy-made things, that barely work - it's you choice. But i want something better for money i paid, and it's my choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisaflor Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 You can't compare Games from today with Games from far far YesterdayGames which are made today are much much more complexprograms and operating systems too thats why they need much more "testers"and only the customer can handle this role they cant release a 100% bug free software because of two reasons 1. pressure of competition; an unreleased software (or whatever) is dead capital (thats why this preorder and alpha/beta version games become much more relevant)you cant earn money with dead capital, if u cant earn money you can close the company 2. evolution of computers and games; when they took too long with the release, they just release something from yesterday(can you remeber how many cried about the "bad" grafics from fallout 4 when the first videos become public?) sry but i am not a pro in english :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliteRaider Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I don't get it Wenderer, you're upset at a lack of testing and also upset that they're testing the survival mode. That seems like a contradiction to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucksteel Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 You can't compare Games from today with Games from far far YesterdayGames which are made today are much much more complexprograms and operating systems too thats why they need much more "testers"and only the customer can handle this role they cant release a 100% bug free software because of two reasons 1. pressure of competition; an unreleased software (or whatever) is dead capital (thats why this preorder and alpha/beta version games become much more relevant)you cant earn money with dead capital, if u cant earn money you can close the company 2. evolution of computers and games; when they took too long with the release, they just release something from yesterday(can you remeber how many cried about the "bad" grafics from fallout 4 when the first videos become public?) sry but i am not a pro in english :laugh: That was my point. If Beth intentionally sold a broken game or for that matter a car company I could understand the Rage. Beth sold us a fully playable game that is probably there most stable release to date. There also trying to improve and update it without charging us more money. The update breaks unofficial mods before the official modding tools are released. I must Rage! How dare they Improve the game and break my mods!!!!!! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenderer Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) The update breaks unofficial mods before the official modding tools are released. I must Rage! How dare they Improve the game and break my mods!!!!!! :rolleyes: That's all you have to say in the end? Puny. Edited March 29, 2016 by Wenderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Sounds like some people don't understand what the purpose of a beta test is...No, it sounds like we paid pretty much money and that's why we should have qualify content from the start. We are not beta testers, and it's not free to play game. Don't play the survival mode yet then...it's in beta, don't play the beta, and wait for the release.I dont understand what is so hard to understandYou are behaving like a child who doesn't have it's toy, right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucksteel Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 The update breaks unofficial mods before the official modding tools are released. I must Rage! How dare they Improve the game and break my mods!!!!!! :rolleyes: That's all you have to say in the end? Puny. No that is all you had to say!!! Was the game perfect on release? NO! Was I happy with every choice Beth made? NO! Was the game broken an unplayable? NO! Was the first release of the game fun? YES! Did I get my moneys worth? YES! Is Beth trying to improve the game? YES! Take your rage else ware, if your upset you can't continue your game with the mods you have installed don't try the beta. Simple fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunydo1255 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Yep and someone will reenable it in a couple days. So moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1245 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 had to opt out of beta please fix it quick or will be not buying the new release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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