billyro Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I think you'd better shorten your signature, or put it in a spoiler tab. You can get in trouble for large siggies like that. Fallout should move away from America in my oppinion. There has been enough there, so we need a change in atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMonkey Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 What about London, think it could be nice, or Paris, not in desertic country anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AveTruetoCaesar Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I think you'd better shorten your signature, or put it in a spoiler tab. You can get in trouble for large siggies like that. Fallout should move away from America in my oppinion. There has been enough there, so we need a change in atmosphere.But without that atmosphere, how is it still Fallout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warkiller75 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) it returns to the mojave(hinted) http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4 fallout 4 is a while away, because bethesda only has the rights to make 3 fallout games, they've made 2 already, so until they win the lawsuit with interplay for the full rights(or atleast the rights for a few more games), they will keep making New Vegas DLCs to continue making money. But, Fallout NV isnt a main story(canon) game, every game so far that isnt named "fallout #" (# meaning 1 2 3.. etc) is considered to be mostly non-canon. the wiki states that fallout NV is a SEPERATE PROJECT by obsidian. FNV is no more canon that Tactics or FBOS. Edited September 1, 2011 by warkiller75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talbot6832 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Oh no not more desert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AveTruetoCaesar Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 it returns to the mojave(hinted) http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4Was fun, meaning that you'll be going somewhere else. fallout 4 is a while away, because bethesda only has the rights to make 3 fallout games, they've made 2 already, so until they win the lawsuit with interplay for the full rights(or atleast the rights for a few more games), they will keep making New Vegas DLCs to continue making money.No, Lonesome Road is going to be the final DLC. But, Fallout NV isnt a main story(canon) game, every game so far that isnt named "fallout #" (# meaning 1 2 3.. etc) is considered to be mostly non-canon. the wiki states that fallout NV is a SEPERATE PROJECT by obsidian. FNV is no more canon that Tactics or FBOS.New Vegas is Canon, dude. You need to read the wiki better. It continues the Fallout 1 and 2 stories. Hell, I'd consider this the true Fallout 3 because it uses elements from the Van Buren story. Meanwhile Fallout 3 didn't have much of a connection to the main games. Again, read the wiki better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warkiller75 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) it returns to the mojave(hinted) http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4Was fun, meaning that you'll be going somewhere else. fallout 4 is a while away, because bethesda only has the rights to make 3 fallout games, they've made 2 already, so until they win the lawsuit with interplay for the full rights(or atleast the rights for a few more games), they will keep making New Vegas DLCs to continue making money.No, Lonesome Road is going to be the final DLC. But, Fallout NV isnt a main story(canon) game, every game so far that isnt named "fallout #" (# meaning 1 2 3.. etc) is considered to be mostly non-canon. the wiki states that fallout NV is a SEPERATE PROJECT by obsidian. FNV is no more canon that Tactics or FBOS.New Vegas is Canon, dude. You need to read the wiki better. It continues the Fallout 1 and 2 stories. Hell, I'd consider this the true Fallout 3 because it uses elements from the Van Buren story. Meanwhile Fallout 3 didn't have much of a connection to the main games. Again, read the wiki better. no, i dont, i have spent days on this. i will guarentee i know this far better than you do, whenever i dont know what even a shack i see is for, i look it up. whenever i'm not skating or actually playing im reading the wiki. how does "was fun" even bring up the thought of going somewhere else? that doesnt even make sense Lonesome road is NOT the final DLCa DLC with the pre-order armors/weapons is coming out aswell as a DLC with brand new weapons and as for you saying as what i interpret as fallout 3 being inferior to FNV, "In Fallout new vegas you have to choose between 3 factions that no one cares about in a conflict that isnt nearly compelling enough to pull you in like in fallout 3" - i cant remember who said that but i belive it was 'latex' Edited September 2, 2011 by warkiller75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AveTruetoCaesar Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 it returns to the mojave(hinted) http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4Was fun, meaning that you'll be going somewhere else. fallout 4 is a while away, because bethesda only has the rights to make 3 fallout games, they've made 2 already, so until they win the lawsuit with interplay for the full rights(or atleast the rights for a few more games), they will keep making New Vegas DLCs to continue making money.No, Lonesome Road is going to be the final DLC. But, Fallout NV isnt a main story(canon) game, every game so far that isnt named "fallout #" (# meaning 1 2 3.. etc) is considered to be mostly non-canon. the wiki states that fallout NV is a SEPERATE PROJECT by obsidian. FNV is no more canon that Tactics or FBOS.New Vegas is Canon, dude. You need to read the wiki better. It continues the Fallout 1 and 2 stories. Hell, I'd consider this the true Fallout 3 because it uses elements from the Van Buren story. Meanwhile Fallout 3 didn't have much of a connection to the main games. Again, read the wiki better. no, i dont, i have spent days on this. how does "was fun" even bring up the thought of going somewhere else? that doesnt even make sense Lonesome road is NOT the final DLCa DLC with the pre-order armors/weapons is coming out aswell as a DLC with brand new weaponsIt's the last DLC with a story. Weapon packs don't really count. And was. He was using was in a past tense, like "that sure was fun, but now we have to go." I don't get how you could imply it was going to be Mojave again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimland Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) lets get 4 things straight 1.the 2 post Lonesome Road DLCs are adding the four pre-order DLCs and a Gun Runners DLC i.e. more weapons, recipes, and weapon mods... more locations please! 2. Canon vs Non-Canon NV is canon. It's gotta be... right? i mean... the Nightkin return, ref of the Master, Marcus !, Klamath Bob (FO2 ref) Wasteland Omelet (FO 2 ref), the Vaults ! Geckos are back, Mantises are back! continuation of of the NCRs expansion, this time eastward. If NV turns out to be non-canonical, as Warkiller75 emphatically claims, then that means the expansion of NCR and/or its influence (Southwest commonwealth) into the Four States Commonwealth (Utah, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico) and the subsequent clash with the Legion (Texas and Arkansas commonwealth) can be utterly ignored in future Fallout games. here's a cool map: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/United_States#The_commonwealths I find this hard to ignore. After all, underneath it all, Fallout is about politics i.e. factions controlling territory, and thus, it is about geopolitics. Best emphasized by Caesar's reference to a Hegelian Dialectic (blew my mind Obsidian put that in this game!). FO2 was about NCR uniting towns and moving its influence North and the Chosen One being the catalyst that put everything into effect or resolved differences... i.e. Hegelian dialectic... ohh... now it's making sense, isn't philosophy fun! It also means Mr. House shooting down the nukes which allowed Vegas to have most of its infrastructure intact while preventing Vegas from becoming a very, very post-apocalyptic radiation induced wasteland relative what was presented in DC, can be ignored. In a nutshell why Hoover Dam, Big MT, Sierra Madre, maybe even whey Zion National were all hit by fewer nukes and remained mostly intact, was due to Mr. House's lazer beams (only if Mr. House had sharks, the possibilities!) can be ignored too! Post-apocalyptic Western U.S.'s source of electricity, the Hoover Dam, can also be ignored in future games (i don't think the Legion wins guys!) 3. future FO4 "was fun" quote who the hell knows what this means? So FO2 returned to Vault 13, Shady Sands, Mariposa, and Vaul 15... does it mean FO4 will return to NV locations or FO1 or FO2 locations? Beats the hell outta me!!! in other words, to quote Three Dog, "what's a disc? Hell if i know?" I'm betting Bethesda has no idea where they are going next for FO4... 4. Separate Project means a different company is doing the project separately, that Obsidian's team worked separately from Bethesda's. It has nothing to do with whether or not the game content is canon or non-canonical. Consider for example, Obsidian did Knights of the Old Republic 2 and that is canon (Bioware developed KOTR 1) so just because Bethesda outsourced to another company does not necessitate NV being non-canonical. Conclusion: NV has to be canon! that's my two cents and based on the geopolitics that underlies FO games there is too much that happens in NV for it to be considered non-canonical. Finally, we know where the damn electricity comes from other than giant fission batteries, and who knows where those come from ! Future FO4 locations, as I've posted before, and based on Fallout Commonwealth map link posted above, it would be cool to see FO4 in another Commonwealth not mentioned or played in previous games (excluding Tactics & BoS). I will also add maybe there is a comparison of the FO Commonwealths to the provinces of Tamriel in the Elder Scrolls series, that each Commonwealth would be its own game, at least since Bethesda took over FO series. In 2 games they've covered 4 Commonwealths: DC, Southwest, Four States, and Texas via the Legion. This is Bethesda covering for FO1, FO2, FO3, and NV. Future FO4 Return east to see if or how DC influence has grown: somewhere in the Gulf, Southeast, East Central, Eastern, or New England Commonwealths, somewhere between Miami and Boston Chicago... only because it is referenced in FO3 and NV. maybe bridge the divide between East and West... i.e. Ed-E foreshadowing things to come? Montreal since it is an island on a river, how cool would that be ! crazy, non? how about a post-apocalyptic annexed French Canada ! oui, oui, c'est mind boggling!! I know it's outside of the 13 FO Commonwealths but Montreal can be added to New England (that piss Quebecers off!) Edited September 2, 2011 by Rimland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have to say I am now in total support of Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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