Occupy Wall Street

[SilverDNA]

Occupy Wall Street is since 17th of September protesting growing lager each day a bit.

Some argue out is it is like the protest that have begun in January in Cairo this year.

Others argue that it is nonsense.

So what are the protest about and are the arguments of the protesting peoples?

Are they valid or are they nonsense and why are they valid or nonsense?

 

Edit: : link to Occupy Wall Street on wikipedia

 

Hopefully we can argue the pros and cons out on a basis that is acceptable for all.

Edited October 6, 2011 by SilverDNA

[Kendo 2]

I HATE corporate greed and I'm going to do something about it.

 

Uses laptop to contact friends.

Goes to Kinko's to get signs printed and pays for it with a credit card.

Since there will be hot girl protesters there I'd better wear some Abercrombie and Fitch stuff.

There's a Starbucks close by and a Jamba Juice too so I won't need to take anything to eat or drink.

Better be sure my cellphone is charged so I can update the my MySpace page with cool pics of me protesting how much I hate corporate greed.

[Aurielius]

opens *Kendo's Book of Satire*

Well that is one way of jump starting the economy. :tongue:

[Ghogiel]

If it is about: "Beginning from one simple demand – a presidential commission to separate money from politics – we start setting the agenda for a new America."

 

And if that means corporate sectors buying influence in something like the US goverment is a stinky. I support.

[marharth]

I buy from corporations so I can't protest them? Let me extend this logic a bit. I hate the government, yet I live in it and vote for new people instead of moving. That clearly means I can't complain, since I choose to live here right?

 

I almost laughed when I see people not supporting the protests. These are the same people who claim to hate wall street and banks, but when stuff actually happens they change sides.

Edited October 6, 2011 by marharth

[Aurielius]

Protesting to stop Lobbying in Washington DC has about as much chance of success as protesting the orbit of celestial bodies. Voting against politicians that are lobbyist lackeys might do better. This is so much self centered fluff, I'm sorry but Kendo's satire was right on target. Edited October 6, 2011 by Aurielius

[marharth]

I don't think his satire was in anyway relevant, but you are probably right in the sense that protesting won't help. I don't even think voting can do much at this point, but I was a bit too harsh in my other post.

[Ghogiel]

Protesting is nearly always futile anyway, I think it's better than not protesting in this case. The idea that corporations and money have such an influence on law and politics is indeed disturbing.

[grannywils]

I for one am absolutely against social and economic inequality and corporate greed. I would love to see the corporate sector lose its ability to buy influence in politics.

 

I too appreciated the above satire by our friend Kendo 2, but am unfortunately not one of those in a financial position to participate in any of the activities to which he referred.

 

Will this particular protest have the desired effect? Who knows? I will say that it does not surprise me to see that it is taking place. I recognize that something had to give with respect to the mindset of the "haves" and the "have nots". There are just too many variables at this point to make any kind of a rational determination as to whether or not this is the way to go about seeking the changes that we need.

 

I do believe that we need them and we are not getting them through the ballot box. The middle class has become a joke. Someone out there needs to start listening. So why not?

 

 

[Kendo 2]

Are they valid or are they nonsense and why are they valid or nonsense?

 

It's nonsense. If the protesters were sincere they would not only be protesting what happens on Wall Street but they would also be protesting the influence of unions in Washington. The same unions that are a part of the evil corporate equation and work for the corporations. Who employs unions? If they are not in governement service WHO signs their paychecks? A corporation pays their bills and puts food in their mouths.

 

If protesters are going to scrub Washington clean then get it CLEAN and not simply focus on the capitalist they 'hate'. THAT is why the protesters are full of it.

 

BTW, I am NOT going to debate unions here. I am using it as a example of how the actions and words of the protesters don't marry up with the intent.