Harbringe Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 52 - 48 is not unanimous whatever the result was. Telling nearly half the population to just accept whatever comes our way is rather pie in the sky. We shall see just how kind democracy can be. That was one decision, the rest will now be made by Borris, Farrage, Gove and the rest of the uber right wing. Gonna need a shovel... How exactly will Farage be making decisions? Farage was isolated from the official campaign so they're hardly likely to invite him to take part now. Well that may be true .. but Nigel Farange over 20 years ago starting saying the EU was a bad idea for many of the same reasons the British voted to leave. 20+ years ago he started saying that because of the inherent design flaws in the EU structure ... it would be in the future that the nations of Europe would suffer the consequences and much of what he has been saying has been proven true . It would be folly to assume that people are going to ignore the one person who has been fighting this fight for over 20 years . Boris Johnson on the other hand you can claim he is just being opportunistic , but not Nigel Farange and so I would think there is going to be a future for him in British politics , in fact he could very well end up being the Prime Minister , at least with him you know for certainty he has been saying the same things for 20 + years and is not being opportunistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshinenbrick Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 just a friendly reminder that unwarranted foreign governments create resistance movements That is why everyone is so devastated. I'm a little confused, I mean, I get that there's some people whining but only showing people whining does not constitute a proper argument that only whiners existit's more likely that the liar aristocracies have had their friendly media organizations/trendsetters only select those that fall in line with the de facto EU party dogma to ask the opinions of and broadcastwhat're you getting at? What I mean is that by voting for 'democracy' the public have (unknowingly) actually voted in a bunch of right wing pirates who have basically sold the people and bought them back in a fire sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 just a friendly reminder that unwarranted foreign governments create resistance movements That is why everyone is so devastated. I'm a little confused, I mean, I get that there's some people whining but only showing people whining does not constitute a proper argument that only whiners existit's more likely that the liar aristocracies have had their friendly media organizations/trendsetters only select those that fall in line with the de facto EU party dogma to ask the opinions of and broadcastwhat're you getting at? What I mean is that by voting for 'democracy' the public have (unknowingly) actually voted in a bunch of right wing pirates who have basically sold the people and bought them back in a fire sale. We didn't vote for anyone, we voted to leave the EU, we don't get to vote anyone in or out until 2020. 52 - 48 is not unanimous whatever the result was. Telling nearly half the population to just accept whatever comes our way is rather pie in the sky. We shall see just how kind democracy can be. That was one decision, the rest will now be made by Borris, Farrage, Gove and the rest of the uber right wing. Gonna need a shovel... How exactly will Farage be making decisions? Farage was isolated from the official campaign so they're hardly likely to invite him to take part now. Well that may be true .. but Nigel Farange over 20 years ago starting saying the EU was a bad idea for many of the same reasons the British voted to leave. 20+ years ago he started saying that because of the inherent design flaws in the EU structure ... it would be in the future that the nations of Europe would suffer the consequences and much of what he has been saying has been proven true . It would be folly to assume that people are going to ignore the one person who has been fighting this fight for over 20 years . Boris Johnson on the other hand you can claim he is just being opportunistic , but not Nigel Farange and so I would think there is going to be a future for him in British politics , in fact he could very well end up being the Prime Minister , at least with him you know for certainty he has been saying the same things for 20 + years and is not being opportunistic. UKIP isn't going anywhere but I can't see it winning any time soon and he's getting on now, I can see him as an MP but nothing more, I don't think the establishment is ever going to give him the credit he deserves. I think we're in for some interesting times, if Labour don't get rid of Corbyn or do but replace him with another clown then we're going to start seeing UKIP MPs coming from Labours old heartlands, we're starting to see what happened to Labour in Scotland being repeated in working class areas of England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshinenbrick Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 just a friendly reminder that unwarranted foreign governments create resistance movements That is why everyone is so devastated. I'm a little confused, I mean, I get that there's some people whining but only showing people whining does not constitute a proper argument that only whiners existit's more likely that the liar aristocracies have had their friendly media organizations/trendsetters only select those that fall in line with the de facto EU party dogma to ask the opinions of and broadcastwhat're you getting at? What I mean is that by voting for 'democracy' the public have (unknowingly) actually voted in a bunch of right wing pirates who have basically sold the people and bought them back in a fire sale. We didn't vote for anyone, we voted to leave the EU, we don't get to vote anyone in or out until 2020. I don't think a good number of people are aware of this though. A general election would be a disaster for Labour right now. They, like many people, are now lost as the map has completely changed. Our last hope until we can vote again is a continuation of our free and open press. Keep an eye on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartarsauce2 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) We didn't vote for anyone, we voted to leave the EU, we don't get to vote anyone in or out until 2020. UKIP isn't going anywhere but I can't see it winning any time soon and he's getting on now, I can see him as an MP but nothing more, I don't think the establishment is ever going to give him the credit he deserves. I think we're in for some interesting times, if Labour don't get rid of Corbyn or do but replace him with another clown then we're going to start seeing UKIP MPs coming from Labours old heartlands, we're starting to see what happened to Labour in Scotland being repeated in working class areas of England. sunshrinebrick - so, you know when people say voting for right wing etc? remember when the guardian would call cameron things?jim_uk - this is for you :)http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/david-cameron-downfall-european-tragedythey're playing up a man who stuck his dick in a dead pig's head and wanted an undemocratic 1984 style continental aristocracy government Edited June 24, 2016 by tartarsauce2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshinenbrick Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 sunshrinebrick - so, you know when people say voting for right wing etc? remember when the guardian would call cameron things? OK then, just pirates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 We didn't vote for anyone, we voted to leave the EU, we don't get to vote anyone in or out until 2020. UKIP isn't going anywhere but I can't see it winning any time soon and he's getting on now, I can see him as an MP but nothing more, I don't think the establishment is ever going to give him the credit he deserves. I think we're in for some interesting times, if Labour don't get rid of Corbyn or do but replace him with another clown then we're going to start seeing UKIP MPs coming from Labours old heartlands, we're starting to see what happened to Labour in Scotland being repeated in working class areas of England. sunshrinebrick - so, you know when people say voting for right wing etc? remember when the guardian would call cameron things?jim_uk - this is for you :smile:http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/david-cameron-downfall-european-tragedythey're playing up a man who stuck his dick in a dead pig's head and wanted an undemocratic 1984 style continental aristocracy government You know the real tragedy for him? he only agreed to the referendum to see off UKIP in the last election, as it turned out UKIP harmed Labour and not the Tories so he need not have done it. I'll be glad to see the back of him, he's the worst prime minister since the last one, he stands for nothing, he believes what the last person he spoke to believes, he's an empty vessel, for him politics is just a game, this time he played and lost. I've noticed Osborne has gone into hiding, he obviously doesn't what to answer questions about the punishment budget he threatened voters with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyroish123 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The thing is (as alot of people may know) that the UK has left the EU, which of course has its pros and cons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbringe Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 UKIP isn't going anywhere but I can't see it winning any time soon and he's getting on now, I can see him as an MP but nothing more, I don't think the establishment is ever going to give him the credit he deserves. I think we're in for some interesting times, if Labour don't get rid of Corbyn or do but replace him with another clown then we're going to start seeing UKIP MPs coming from Labours old heartlands, we're starting to see what happened to Labour in Scotland being repeated in working class areas of England. UKIP is done , they have served their purpose , they have accomplished the task they had set out to do and will be dissolved once Great Britain leaves the EU in 2 years time , but that doesn't mean the people involved are not going to have a future in British politics . It doesn't make sense to ignore the people who have been looking at the EU and pointing out its failings and when the time comes to put to the test what they have been saying , they wont be involved . Nonsense those are the very people you need to get through this , because they have been thinking about it for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisnpuppy Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Dow closed down 600 points, worse day since 2011 and losing most 2016 gains. That was a news title on my phone new thing just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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