CuliacanMexico Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I didn't kill him. Role playing, I might need him for the coming war with the Aldmeri Dominion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSarcasm Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I did kill Paarthurnax in my first game, just out of curiosity. Then I committed suicide by whirlwind sprinting off the throat of the world and saving the game in midfall. Paarthurnax is like, Dragon-Yoda, those two words together just reinvented awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikecheese1337 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I installed "The Paarthurnax Dilemma" so I could tell the Blades to suck it and leave Paarthurnax alive. If he were plotting to betray the Dovahkiin, why would he spend thousands of years sitting on a mountain meditating? Why convert other dragons to the Way of the Voice to make them less axe-crazy? Why not just chomp Dovahkiin in mid-sentence after returning from Sovngarde? Murdering Paarthurnax helps nobody - it can't bring back the people he killed thousands of years ago and has regretted ever since (it's like mugging someone at the age of 15, regretting it your whole life and so becoming a great philanthropist and setting up charities, then the police showing up to arrest you in your 80s) it prevents other dragons from beig redeemed, and it is killing the guy who saved the world twice over. The Blades were just being racist, irrational, genocidal a***holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobwebmaster Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 The idea of rebuilding the Blades - perhaps as a new organization, combining something from both the old Akaviri Dragonguard and the Blades as they were in Oblivion - has some serious potential and I think Bethesda should have put more work into it than just letting us recruit three random people and that's it. Perhaps building an entire army around Dragonborn would be too much, but I'd like to see more side-quests involving the Blades, i. e. making some new contacts, recruiting spies, sympathizers and more Blades-to-be all around Skyrim, maybe also a blacksmith or an enchanter to work in Sky Haven Temple - you know, something we can to for the Dawnguard during "A New Order". Hunting dragons with the Blades (or any new dragon-wary organization they would be reformed into) might be intertwined with hunting down some Thalmor agents, raiding those old ruins filled with Draugr in search for Dragon Cult artifacts, something like that - something that would make the Blades more meaningful and a real alternative for siding with Paarth (right now it's more like "What, the Blades? What Blades? Hell yeah I'm taking Paarth's side!"). Not quite sure why you or Skyrim needs another Blade Army, apart from as you say it might be fun. The blades for me need to be forgotten. They made a hash of protecting the dragon emperors to whom they were supposedly totally loyal and devoted to guarding. Next they get their collective asses kicked by the Thalmor. Now all they want to do is gnaw at the ends of their old plots like a dog with a dragonbone from the days of the ancient Nords. Ok they do have a decent HQ with some nice wall carvings in it (good for Nord tourist trade) but that's about it. If you do the Thane Quests and pick up some loyal followers through adventuring, brawling, or even simply hire some, you have a pretty seriously heavy handed bunch of folks ready to kick ass anywhere you tell them to. I'd like to see a Dragonborn DLC which allows a third but winning faction in the Skyrim conflict! The Blades can join it and Delphine forgets her silly plots or loses her head, with the option to recruit Paarthurnax and any other dragon that wants to be part of a untied Skyrim. Once you've taken care of Alduin the remaining Dragons will fall into line or simply face extinction. Even a Forsworn alliance would seem to be a possibility in this world (with some certain quid pro qos) .Tullius and his bunch of midgets could either swear loyalty or have a dragon and some Forsworn barbecue them ( or freeze for later consumption) As for Ulfric? Well with the guys you've got and converts (dragonborn awestruck) he doesn't really have a chance. He forgets his pretentious ambitions to the throne or loses his parts in a challenge where your Thuum does it's divide and conquer bit to various parts of his anatomy and Windhelm (what a dump!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borborygmus Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 why are these two assholes telling me to kill a dragon in the first place? all you have to do is shoot him with a few arrows to make him angry, then hide behind a tree or rock when he breathes fire. anyone could kill a dragon in skyrim, a child could kill a dragon. for what? so ugly-face can go back to bitching at whats his name in the riverwood inn, and the exorcist (yep the voice actor for esbern max von sydow was actually the original exorcist) can go back to living in the sewers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borborygmus Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I didn't kill him. Role playing, I might need him for the coming war with the Aldmeri Dominion. seriously! the coolest and most logical lore extension of the story is the collapse of the treaty, and we get frickin buggy vampires as the first expac? what gives, man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquart Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) Not quite sure why you or Skyrim needs another Blade Army, apart from as you say it might be fun. The blades for me need to be forgotten. They made a hash of protecting the dragon emperors to whom they were supposedly totally loyal and devoted to guarding. Next they get their collective asses kicked by the Thalmor. Now all they want to do is gnaw at the ends of their old plots like a dog with a dragonbone from the days of the ancient Nords. Ok they do have a decent HQ with some nice wall carvings in it (good for Nord tourist trade) but that's about it. Sure, but the Dragonborn - no matter his power or prowess - is not eternal or immortal, at least as far as I know. The reformed Blades, on the other hand, would be something that could keep the dragons in check for a long time after Dovahkiin's death. Of course such an organization can (and probably should) have a different name, different structure, different methods and objectives with its main goal being to protect both Men and Mer from any future threat dragons might pose (as a successors to the Akaviri Dragonguard, I imagine the Blades know or at least should know more about the dragons than anyone except the Dragonborn himself), but simply throwing away three centuries of the Blades' history only because they got their asses kicked by the Elves would be unwise, in my opinion at least :wink: Edited November 17, 2012 by Inquart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikecheese1337 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 It's implied that magic can extend your lifetime from Savos Aren's incredibly irritating dialogue, "What you learn here will last you a lifetime... Several, if you're talented." So my Archmage DB is golden :). Anyway, considering you have an immortal dragon's soul, every DB would seem to be immortal until they get chomped by a dragon. ^^^ Exactly, vanilla dragons are weak as hell. Deadly Dragons FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobwebmaster Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Not quite sure why you or Skyrim needs another Blade Army, apart from as you say it might be fun. The blades for me need to be forgotten. They made a hash of protecting the dragon emperors to whom they were supposedly totally loyal and devoted to guarding. Next they get their collective asses kicked by the Thalmor. Now all they want to do is gnaw at the ends of their old plots like a dog with a dragonbone from the days of the ancient Nords. Ok they do have a decent HQ with some nice wall carvings in it (good for Nord tourist trade) but that's about it. Sure, but the Dragonborn - no matter his power or prowess - is not eternal or immortal, at least as far as I know. The reformed Blades, on the other hand, would be something that could keep the dragons in check for a long time after Dovahkiin's death. Of course such an organization can (and probably should) have a different name, different structure, different methods and objectives with it's main goal being to protect both Men and Mer from any future threat dragons might pose (as a successors to the Akaviri Dragonguard, I imagine the Blades know or at least should know more about the dragons than anyone except the Dragonborn himself), but simply throwing away three centuries of the Blades' history only because they got their asses kicked by the Elves would be unwise, in my opinion at least :wink: The Dragonborn, is the necessary balance to Alduin, provided by Akatosh &Co (known manufacturers of life forms) and the means to prevent the return of the Dragon's tyranny under Alduin's leadership. It is only the Blades - well Delphine particularly and Esbern - that seem to be obsessed with exterminating ALL dragons. There is also a need to remove the potential domination of the Thalmor as well, at least in Skyrim anyway. Agreed the blades (and the Akiviri before them) have a history relating to battling dragons, but any group of warriors can do that, as the the Ancient Nords did at great cost. Ok you could argue that the Blades defeat at the hands of the Thalmor was due to poor leadership, but that event is not my sole reason for distrusting them. Rebuilding the blades is an option for the Dragonborn and potentially his private army but under Delphine's influence? I don't think so! The Dragonborn is not immortal as you say but their descendants can carry the dragonblood as the Septim dynasty proved. Preserving history is not the exclusive property of the Blades. Other competent scholars are available. The blades were important once in Tamriel history but I would argue that there is not sufficient need to resurrect and maintain a standing military force, for the sole purpose of exterminating Dragons once Alduin has been dealt with. The other reason for the Blades existence has already disappeared. Many Jarls would see the blades as a major threat. Besides as far as we know Dragons though the children of Akatosh and immortal are incapable of reproduction by natural means.I didn't see any reproductive organs to target) So once their numbers are sufficiently reduced where does the threat to mankind (or Nordkind) originate. The greatest source of knowledge are the Dhove and there will be those who would argue for their preservation. I certainly would argue for Paarthurnax's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquart Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Rebuilding the blades is an option for the Dragonborn and potentially his private army but under Delphine's influence? I don't think so! And there's no argument here - I, too, think that kicking out that cow Delphine (and Esbern, though to a lesser extend) should be Dragonborn's top priority had he ever wished to rebuild the Blades in any form. The blades were important once in Tamriel history but I would argue that there is not sufficient need to resurrect and maintain a standing military force, for the sole purpose of exterminating Dragons once Alduin has been dealt with. Again - I agree. Even more - Alduin's defeat is one thing, but Paarth's pacifist ideology and his willingness to teach (or impose) it to the other dragons is also a possible hint that the dragon threat is already gone or will be in the future. I certainly would argue for Paarthurnax's! So do I, that's why I always let him live. As someone said here before, he's like Dovah-Yoda after all :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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