Ethreon Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Bethesda doesn't need or have to do anything that's not related to strictly their game functionality. I think some of you lads are forgetting reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury71 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I was oldrim player and 3 of my friends not started to play se because of the skse. I have the se but still i haven't started to play it. Everyday i am checking this topic about the news. I think the same, bethesda should release the official skse because many players wants it but it seems they do not care. Everyone started to play another games while waiting skse. Is bethesda slowly becomes ubisoft? (worst company about the players and developers communication)Skyrim is not an mmo with cash shop or subs. So why should Bethesda care if people are playing the game or not? There will be no more DLC for Skyrim so why spend time and money on it? I hope Bethesda is working on TES6, and not waisting time on a game that has already made them a fortune.If i were Bethesda i would put all energy on new games and maby content for FO4.I play both oldrim and SE with +200 mods on both and having a lot of fun. I find SE running better than oldrim and i dont miss any mods that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanTR Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I don't think so. You think bethesda have a no idea about the situation and you think they need to work hard and spent months for the skse? You must be kidding. It must be easy job for them. I want to see this "we officially released skse for our players" and if they do this, that means everyone should respect bethesda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EB64 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017   Here's my draft letter, which I'll be sending to Todd Howard shortly. Holy Sh*** what is wrong with this people these days? Honestly? If I would be Mr. Howard and would recive your letter (even tho I don't think it will be passed to him directly) I would read it and instandly put it in the trash can. Not because your letter is bad itself. But just because it has no impact on anything! Are you really that frustrated that you have to do that?IF Bethesda really wanted to have all the SKSE hooks in the CK, they would have added it allready. Its not like SKSE implements anything new to the game, it adds hooks to allready exsisting methods and calls, which are hidden for the modding tools. And that is on purpose!!! I think most people forgett this point! Honestly guys? I don't care if we get SKSE or not. I never played oldrim, bought skyrim Legendary on a 8$ sale, got SSE 1 month later for free and just play that. I have 120 mods* installed, all lined up and bash patched. No crashes so far, pretty immersive and I am still having a lot of fun. That all I have to say about that aspect. Do yourself a favor and stop getting insane because skse is not here and not ready. I bet 90% of the people complaining about the lack of SKSE for SSE never played SSE or didn't even try to mod it properly.A good modder can still add a lot of content to the game even when it comes to scripts. It's not woth 80 pages on a forum. Cheers *10 of them are just textures and meshes! The same goes with you. Never modded extensively oldrim with SKSE to realise what its like and you go on calling people waiting for SKSE64 whinny peoples. You have your fun, and thats great. But here are people who played both extensively and actually SEE and FEEL the difference, please respect that, as you cant witness that difference.  I played Oldrim with SKSE quite a bit before SE even came out.Do I miss some of the functionality SKSE prodvided? Sure. Some things they just cannot do without it.Do I want to return to Oldrim just so I can have that missing functionality? No. The stability SE provides vastly outweighs any desire to try and fiddle around in Oldrim trying to balance mods to get a playable game with everything I want. So, yes, you guys are being "whinny peoples" in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardmaster Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited)  I was oldrim player and 3 of my friends not started to play se because of the skse. I have the se but still i haven't started to play it. Everyday i am checking this topic about the news. I think the same, bethesda should release the official skse because many players wants it but it seems they do not care. Everyone started to play another games while waiting skse. Is bethesda slowly becomes ubisoft? (worst company about the players and developers communication)Skyrim is not an mmo with cash shop or subs. So why should Bethesda care if people are playing the game or not? There will be no more DLC for Skyrim so why spend time and money on it? I hope Bethesda is working on TES6, and not waisting time on a game that has already made them a fortune.If i were Bethesda i would put all energy on new games and maby content for FO4.I play both oldrim and SE with +200 mods on both and having a lot of fun. I find SE running better than oldrim and i dont miss any mods that much. TES6 lets hope so though it will take quite a lot of time before it will get released.. Bethesda is already putting all effort in new games Prey being one of them. At E3 we are likely going to hear more. FO4 is no longer in development with Bethesda so very unlikely that new content will be created a good thing i.m.h.o. as now modders like Kinggath can finally take a pickaxe to the settlement system and make it more interesting.I run Oldrim (Vanilla and Enderal) and SSE too however there are certain mods like Legacy of the Dragonborn that are solely dependent on the script extender and thus can only be played on the old engine. They are unfortunately a good reason to do a replay of Oldrim even if it means that you have to do the whole micromanagement on mods and memory utilization again to get it to work nicely... Edited May 27, 2017 by cardmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genj0 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited)    Here's my draft letter, which I'll be sending to Todd Howard shortly. Holy Sh*** what is wrong with this people these days? Honestly? If I would be Mr. Howard and would recive your letter (even tho I don't think it will be passed to him directly) I would read it and instandly put it in the trash can. Not because your letter is bad itself. But just because it has no impact on anything! Are you really that frustrated that you have to do that?IF Bethesda really wanted to have all the SKSE hooks in the CK, they would have added it allready. Its not like SKSE implements anything new to the game, it adds hooks to allready exsisting methods and calls, which are hidden for the modding tools. And that is on purpose!!! I think most people forgett this point! Honestly guys? I don't care if we get SKSE or not. I never played oldrim, bought skyrim Legendary on a 8$ sale, got SSE 1 month later for free and just play that. I have 120 mods* installed, all lined up and bash patched. No crashes so far, pretty immersive and I am still having a lot of fun. That all I have to say about that aspect. Do yourself a favor and stop getting insane because skse is not here and not ready. I bet 90% of the people complaining about the lack of SKSE for SSE never played SSE or didn't even try to mod it properly.A good modder can still add a lot of content to the game even when it comes to scripts. It's not woth 80 pages on a forum. Cheers *10 of them are just textures and meshes! The same goes with you. Never modded extensively oldrim with SKSE to realise what its like and you go on calling people waiting for SKSE64 whinny peoples. You have your fun, and thats great. But here are people who played both extensively and actually SEE and FEEL the difference, please respect that, as you cant witness that difference.  I played Oldrim with SKSE quite a bit before SE even came out.Do I miss some of the functionality SKSE prodvided? Sure. Some things they just cannot do without it.Do I want to return to Oldrim just so I can have that missing functionality? No. The stability SE provides vastly outweighs any desire to try and fiddle around in Oldrim trying to balance mods to get a playable game with everything I want. So, yes, you guys are being "whinny peoples" in my opinion. Oh dear, you dont feel the same as we do, so we're whinny peoples? Sure does prove anything. Nobody whines, asking for something we feel would be a great addition to a reedited game such as SE (which actually is one of the only things it lacks really), is no whinning. Tantrum if its not done is. You dont care about SKSE64 and dont see why we do? Fine. Let us ask politely what we would like, there's no need for someone to comment here just to say "oh my god you're all so childish and so intitled, you should be greatful for what you got !". That's not constructive, nor useful, not even truthful. (sorry for my possibly awful english) Edited May 27, 2017 by Genj0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElGordo371 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 The most popular, best-selling Bethesda game is also it's most modded.Most of those mods use SKSE to some degree. Bethesda doesn't have to do anything. No one ever has to do anything.  No one has to get up in the morning. No one really has to breath or eat, and many don't.  Unpalatable alternatives are still alternatives. Death is nature's alternative to all life questions. Just as closure is the universal alternative to all business decisions. The question is to what does Bethesda attribute the Success of Skyrim? If it is the "Skyrim" part exclusively. Then they've done all they can or should. But if mod-ability is a significant factor, then SKSE is a significant factor. A company that wants to sell games and make money should take note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristotle99 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 The most popular, best-selling Bethesda game is also it's most modded.Most of those mods use SKSE to some degree. Bethesda doesn't have to do anything. No one ever has to do anything.  No one has to get up in the morning. No one really has to breath or eat, and many don't.  Unpalatable alternatives are still alternatives. Death is nature's alternative to all life questions. Just as closure is the universal alternative to all business decisions. The question is to what does Bethesda attribute the Success of Skyrim? If it is the "Skyrim" part exclusively. Then they've done all they can or should. But if mod-ability is a significant factor, then SKSE is a significant factor. A company that wants to sell games and make money should take note. The best post out of 84 pages. I've printed out and addressed the letter to Todd Howard I posted earlier, am sending it today. You are all welcome to send my letter word-for-word as well. The more that are sent, the more likely there will be a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosent Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Does anyone have the original source code? maybe we can help to develop faster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdip Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 This thread is continual entertainment, if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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