Would'nt There Be a Bigger Religious Presence in a Post Apocolyptic World?

[Fkemman11]

 

 

I was thinking that it would have been very cool if say one person sorta was revered as a "living god" in the Commonwealth. Perhaps a very old ghoul with seemingly supernatural powers. I envisioned a society in which some are fanatically loyal to this individuals "new- old religion". There would be grand religious ceremonies and maybe a huge cathedral. This new "God" of the Commonwealth would be very much akin to the ancient Egyptian Pharaohs. This would be a great opportunity to either side with this religious establishment or to "take it to the man" and stamp it out with a little help from your friends (or take it over).

sooo Master from Fallout 2?

 

 

Hmmmm. I didn't play FO2. But got it. Been there- done that with the "Evil Overlord" thing. :tongue:

 

@ Montky. You think the BOS would be tolerant of all religions. I actually kinda see them as cult-ish themselves. Even Piper states something to the effect " The BOS practically worships technology". Is there a story perhaps behind their emblem? Is anything ever mentioned in The Founders Axiom about their views on old world religion? BTW, Is there an actual copy of the founders axiom in any fallout game?

 

As Dante pointed out, wouldn't more people of the Commonwealth be looking for deeper meaning in their daily struggles? If people still believe in marriage then why would they go to a priest- and not a judge or the mayor to do so? Is there an indication of a conscious rejection of any old-world ideals by people or is it just ignorance( I would find this hard to believe)?

 

The Children of Atom certainly fashioned there beliefs modeled after "old world religions" in that they gather into a community of believers and have a "Church of Atom" (any highly irradiated place or object). How is a leader made among them? Is there any documentation or a "Bible" that clearly outlines their beliefs? Or do they defer to the judgement and ideals of the eldest among them? Have you ever heard one of them say that "Atom" came to them in a dream or vision? :geek:

 

What if the institute embraced religion? Any religion? How would a synthetic being deal with this? Or is this out of the question due to the institute's active pursuit of technology at any cost?

[DoctorKaizeld]

you should give the first two a try they can be fun and have the good Fallout humor. like a guy who gives you a grenade so you can blow something up with it because, screw it why not? (FO1)

 

also the first game is pretty short and you can pretty much finish it in a single play session and only miss a couple random encounters. i did at least. only missed 3 rare encounters.

 

the second one is where the game gets a bit longer and harder though and will take more time to finish.

[Ethreon]

Master's from 1, where he dies at the end. He lays his base underneath a cathedral, and starts what is plain and simply a cult.

[Moksha8088]

There was a swamp cult in Fallout 3 and in Fallout New Vegas there were Mormons.

[Ethreon]

In 2 there are the hubologists which are a reference to the scientology church nowadays.

[Perraine]

In 2 there are the hubologists which are a reference to the scientology church nowadays.

Lol ... I was actually quite surprised by the outcome of the Hubologists quest in the FO4 Nuka World DLC. I honestly thought it was going to be similar to the Ghoul mini quest from New Vegas, but nope, Bugthesda actually managed to surprise me with that one, though it was a bit saddening and disappointing.

 

But yeah, I wonder what L Ron would think of Bugthesda taking the pish out of him :P

[PoorlyAged]

I liked @montky and his take on the BoS, even though I disagree with him.

 

First, a definition of re·li·gion

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.

5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

 

The BoS is a religion.

 

The BoS has a infallible deified savior image in Roger Maxson. The BoS has a sacred tome; the Codex, written and delivered by their Savior. This sacred book describes all of the 'tenets' which the BoS and its members are to adhere too and live by, and describes the punishments for those who stray from the tenets,. The BoS is deliberately intolerant of others and isolates itself from the non-believing "savages" because their sacred book tells them to avoid everyone "not bound by steel". The members of the BoS have a self-righteous sanctimonious belief that they are superior to every other wasteland inhabitant, simply because they have a sacred tome which says they are.

But I an not a lone voice.

 

The Fallout Wiki Nuka-Pedia in History of the Brotherhood of Steel defines the BoS as "a techno-religious faction" . On their page describing the Brotherhood of Steel they are described as "quasi-religious technological organization". On their page describing the Religions of Fallout (a good starting point for this whole thread) the have the following statement: "Some of the post-War factions might also be considered "religious" even if they do not worship any specific deity, such as the Followers of the Apocalypse and the Brotherhood of Steel."

[Fkemman11]

Yeah. Apparently, the BOS is not very tolerant of same- sex couples either- at least according to Veronica in FNV. You make a pretty good point there PoorlyAged. What exactly are these tenants in the codex and what are the founders axioms that Veronica mentions? But, if the BOS is a "techno-religious faction" wouldn't that mean that the Institute and Enclave could be defined as such also? Not sure. :huh:

 

The real question is whether the old religions of the world would survive in a post apocalyptic society or maybe even thrive. Would the new religions that you allude to replace them? Would the idea of a single, omnipotent, god (monotheism) that had been around for thousands of years, be forgotten or dismissed as nonsense? Probably not. If anything people living in the aftermath of a holocaust would want a better understanding of their existence and the mysterious powers that either brought that s#*! down on their head or did nothing to prevent it. They would be looking for answers. I know I would. :nuke:

[Fonger]

Yeah. Apparently, the BOS is not very tolerant of same- sex couples either- at least according to Veronica in FNV. You make a pretty good point there PoorlyAged. What exactly are these tenants in the codex and what are the founders axioms that Veronica mentions? But, if the BOS is a "techno-religious faction" wouldn't that mean that the Institute and Enclave could be defined as such also? Not sure. :huh:

not to mention the raiders

 

who worship

 

free death

[Fkemman11]

 

Yeah. Apparently, the BOS is not very tolerant of same- sex couples either- at least according to Veronica in FNV. You make a pretty good point there PoorlyAged. What exactly are these tenants in the codex and what are the founders axioms that Veronica mentions? But, if the BOS is a "techno-religious faction" wouldn't that mean that the Institute and Enclave could be defined as such also? Not sure. :huh:

not to mention the raiders

 

who worship

 

free death

 

 

You mean the "Gang-Bangers" of the fallout universe? Yeah......their agenda is pretty evident- as are their beliefs.