gesqytjeu Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 sorry for spamming, but this has international importance and thus must be spread:if you love our dear internet the way it is, than please sign this petition protesting the ACTA law that is going around the countries to be voted on. It is basically a tamer version of SOPA, but unlike SOPA the violators could get arrested, where as SOPA would crash the site. so instead of destroying the internet, it would simply imprison most of all those who use it. protect the internet !!!protect our last open source media (the internet) !!!protect freedom of speech !!! MUST SEEhttp://www.youtube.c...h?v=yQ56UNL5zeo SAY NO TO ACTA!!!https://www.accessno...-say-no-to-acta spread this message loud and fast acta has been arreanged in secret for some yours now many country's have already signed the law but the final dessicision goe's in june or juli in 2012to the european parlement. ur vote will cover 100 who dindt got the chance to hear about acta SO EVRY VOTE COUNTS!!! Stand up for ur rights, freedom of speech and safe the internet!!! peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajKrAzAm Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Haha. I also base all my legal and political positions on youtube videos. Oh Gad. ACTA won’t restrict freedom of the internet. It doesn’t concern individual use of the internet. It doesn’t event change the law. It merely harmonizes international enforcement of IP rights in court. Your country already enforces IP rights in court, unless of course you live somewhere like Somalia. Here’s the English text, although I’m guessing you’ll probably need some other language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleGlitch Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I'm sure most everyone here on nexus doesn't want a closed internet. Things like SOPA, ACTA, etc. are not good for the internet, we can all agree on this. However, nobody wants to look at the reason why things like this are being passed in the first place. If the internet can be strong enough and responsible enough to stand up to acts like these, then maybe its time that is also stepped up and stopped the piracy problem itself with out governments having to step in, much like the same stance the nexus has. Stopping bills, treaties, other acts is all well and good. But they are going to keep coming back until root of the problem is removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Oh look, our media is still reporting on the royal couple and completely ignoring ACTA, SOPA, and PIPA. You guys still wonder why I got mad at this back when the topic about it was first posted? I literally just saw a news report on some s*** about them. It is no better then loving the Kardashians (or whatever the f*** they are named.) Our media is completely ignoring important s*** to report on a bunch of bull everyone loves to eat up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I'm sure most everyone here on nexus doesn't want a closed internet. Things like SOPA, ACTA, etc. are not good for the internet, we can all agree on this. However, nobody wants to look at the reason why things like this are being passed in the first place. If the internet can be strong enough and responsible enough to stand up to acts like these, then maybe its time that is also stepped up and stopped the piracy problem itself with out governments having to step in, much like the same stance the nexus has. Stopping bills, treaties, other acts is all well and good. But they are going to keep coming back until root of the problem is removed. Piracy will never be stopped. Simple as that. So long as folks produce software, and charge for it, there will be folks out there, that crack it, and offer it for free for anyone to download. It's a lot like drugs. So long as their is demand, there will be a supply. Banning various file transfer protocols, removing due process from the internet, won't change a thing. Pirates will still be out there, as will pirated software. Just the means of acquiring it will change. It's akin to the 'war on drugs'..... you can throw as much money/legislation at it you want, but, you don't even make a dent in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubjectProphet Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The above post is correct. I would quote it but uhh..... Either way, piracy, illegal internet stuff, all that, will never be stopped until the internet is gone. Steam said they'd help against piracy, but their games get cracked. Key codes have keygens, etc. It's just that simple, people will crack games until they are no longer released. And not just games, basicly anything you have to pay for. I'm with the whole "stop pirates" thing, but people are taking this WAY to far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Steam actually did help against piracy. A lot of people started using steam when they realized a fairly good online service existed. Piracy is a service issue a lot of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghogiel Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) I kinda doubt Steam is making any real dent in piracy. Piracy is getting stuff without paying for it. imo it's a money issue not so much a service issue. I've read what Gabe said about this almost always being a service issue, and then I'm still hit in the face with his DRM, sounds like BS to me... DRM is cleverer than you think, it's not there to prevent piracy, because it actually just doesn't full fill that role. I really have a hard time buying that line, you see these companies, who are full of smart people and are repeatedly trying to fit that square peg into that round hole and telling you that is what it is for, I just don't buy it. What I see a: method to hook a user to a network ensuring.. well use/rs. b: stop causal sharing of games and lock it down to 1 user. c: kill off the second hand market. They know the value of this sort of thing. Facebook is worth $100bil pretty much just by having that many people use it for so many hours a day. So the service of Steam and how easy it is to buy from them is sound idea at combating piracy. But then when you do get off yer butt and go to the store to buy the disk itself, it still smacks you with DRM, and internet connections, activating on a single account and all that, all of which strengthens my belief is what they really are after is to get you hooked into their system and stop you lending anyone your dvd to play, rather than piracy. So if Gabe knows it's this service issue, then why is the service, well the DRM, still basically a bloody annoyance. Edited February 1, 2012 by Ghogiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 How is steam DRM annoying? Also hate to say this but killing off the second hand market is a good thing. Directly supporting developers is what we should be doing, not letting game stores control the games without any profit going back to the devs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghogiel Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Because it is DRM. All it is is stuff that you don't really need to have forced on you having bought the game, anyone who didn't> doesn't have to deal with DRM ever. all it ever has been is an annoyance to paying customers. remember those little code books like with Alone in the Dark or some such cypher gizmo? or when it asked you for a word from some page on the manual? Those were kind fun at least. In the case of Steamworks specifically, I have to install steam, make an account, then activate the copy to that one account, at which point makes the game useless to be returned, sold on or lent to a friend. Then automatic updates updating the thing. I actually went out and bought the game, disk, of a single player game, this is skyrim mind you, And all of that is annoying, it only makes it worse when people like Gabe come around and are like, we are going to combat piracy with the best service possible, He's saying this in relation to DRM and piracy. and then you end up with a supped up DRM affair. Being pointless at piracy prevention, at least be honest about it and just say they just want to be the next facebook and eliminate second hand sales and game lending. As for the second hand sales and killing it off, people say that, but apparently second hand markets aren't a bad thins. The idea is that a second hand market increases the disposable income of potential buyers, meaning they can generate more money to buy new games with. It's the same economic theory for second hand cars as it is for games. You reduce the potential money new game buyers have to spend by not allowing them to sell the game on, you are reducing the potential purchases they can ultimately make. DRM could actually be exacerbating piracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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