Countries Untouched by the War Would Loot "Dead America"

[Fkemman11]

They still have boats I would assume, ships really. They would still have vehicles, construction equipment, even planes. Other countries that either weren't touched by the war or not effected that much by it would undoubtedly want to start hauling away what is left of America, China, and any other countries devastated by the war. There would probably be salvage wars between competing countries for some of that advanced technology left in the ruins of burned out, crumbling cities. They would loot the military bases, the shipyards, the factories, the research centers, every damn thing that was of value would be loaded up and hauled back to where-ever they called home. Anyone who thinks this might not be true just needs look at old battlegrounds around the world where they still dig up undetonated bombs and mines and then sell them. The fall of one superpower in the world is usually the carcass that others in their bid for dominance feeds off of. Sure there would still be pockets of untouched communities left somewhere, trying to pick up the pieces and make a life. But they would fall quickly in the face of organized military moving to claim the land in the name of some southern country. The largest stockpile of armaments and munitions ever known to man is too tempting a target and soon any remnants of past allegiances would be forgotten- if not forcibly removed. Comments?

[DoctorKaizeld]

every single country was affected by the war. even the ones that didn't fire nukes were destroyed many even were targeted by countries with nukes.

 

the whole world was at war prior to the nuclear one, canon also says no one knows who lauched first meaning it may not have been China or America.

[dragonslayer2k12]

I thought I read on the wiki that the enclave secretly forced america to fire first?

[Fkemman11]

every single country was affected by the war. even the ones that didn't fire nukes were destroyed many even were targeted by countries with nukes.

 

the whole world was at war prior to the nuclear one, canon also says no one knows who lauched first meaning it may not have been China or America.

If every single country was hit by nukes then there would be no freakin planet left. That is just some convenient poppycock written by Beth for the sake of lore. Some countries would still be relatively intact. Their Governments, their military, their institutions, their schools, most would have survived conventional war and even a limited nuclear strike. There would be some areas almost untouched and they would inherit what was left of the other countries. Even if that isn't accurate, the assumption that new countries hungry for power would form from areas where infrastructure was still somewhat intact- is.

[DoctorKaizeld]

 

every single country was affected by the war. even the ones that didn't fire nukes were destroyed many even were targeted by countries with nukes.

 

the whole world was at war prior to the nuclear one, canon also says no one knows who lauched first meaning it may not have been China or America.

If every single country was hit by nukes then there would be no freakin planet left. That is just some convenient poppycock written by Beth for the sake of lore. Some countries would still be relatively intact. Their Governments, their military, their institutions, their schools, most would have survived conventional war and even a limited nuclear strike. There would be some areas almost untouched and they would inherit what was left of the other countries.

 

I didn't say every single country was hit. also, this lore wasn't made by Bethesda. all old world countries canonically have been destroyed by the war.

 

 

I thought I read on the wiki that the enclave secretly forced america to fire first?

this is not true at all.

[Fkemman11]

 

 

every single country was affected by the war. even the ones that didn't fire nukes were destroyed many even were targeted by countries with nukes.

 

the whole world was at war prior to the nuclear one, canon also says no one knows who lauched first meaning it may not have been China or America.

If every single country was hit by nukes then there would be no freakin planet left. That is just some convenient poppycock written by Beth for the sake of lore. Some countries would still be relatively intact. Their Governments, their military, their institutions, their schools, most would have survived conventional war and even a limited nuclear strike. There would be some areas almost untouched and they would inherit what was left of the other countries.

 

I didn't say every single country was hit. also, this lore wasn't made by Bethesda. all old world countries canonically have been destroyed by the war.

 

 

Even if every single area of the globe was reduced to rubble- which is extremely doubtful- new forms of governed nations would arise. People would not just suddenly forget how the world was structured and would seek to immediately rebuild. It is very likely -even- that some areas could recover more quickly and be able to repair naval vessels and reform armies with the intent of not just survival but dominance. Where better to find weapons and machinery than the former US? One of the main things keeping enemies at bay are alliances and nuclear arsenals- both of which are now either gone or inoperable. The slate is effectively wiped clean.

[Moksha8088]

Tasmania. If Tasmania had a way of reaching the United States, they might come looking for any remaining unbroadcast episodes of Game of Thrones. Plus if they had any renegade sheep, they might offload them in the US as part of a penal colony.

[Fkemman11]

Tasmania. If Tasmania had a way of reaching the United States, they might come looking for any remaining unbroadcast episodes of Game of Thrones. Plus if they had any renegade sheep, they might offload them in the US as part of a penal colony.

And those wooly sheep might keep many a farmer or brave explorer warm at night! :laugh: That is if they are not to hungry.

[montky]

an interesting question, FKemman11

 

 

 

perhaps these other factions would,

though, what resource/s would there have been, to motivate them venturing into the 'glowing wastes'?

returnoninput vs risk vs reward. If you're considering walking into that,

you'd have to have a very great incentive to do so hehe.

superheroes are often the ones seen walking toward the danger, though I doubt that's why those folks'd be there.

that, and I think there'd be very few places relatively unscathed by that conflict.

 

maybe, there's signs of 'visitation' between 2077 and 2100,

that some folks, did try and claim that 'now-vacant area' (as most folks would still be in shelters etc)

 

rather, I think those places relatively unaffected by the great conflict

would bunker down and try to prevent

people from arriving there from the rest of the worlds' issues.

If people knew there was a pristine place, with the "Pristine Place Dream",

they'd all want a slice of that...

 

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it depends on what 'q-source'/'lore' is part of the exegesis.

a lot of people regard interplay etc as apocrypha, though I personally hold

all of those (minus the bronies-mod or shelter), incl. of FO:BoS and Tactics,

as canonical. there's then a few other sources additionally present.

 

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one thing to pull out from post #4 of this thread;

"if every locale |suffered MADD|, then there would be no world left"

indeed, that sounds a lot like the initial fear of an 'atmospheric ignition'

it depends on the weapons, though, perhaps that is precisely what would eventually happen in the fallout verse.

if the upper atmosphere composition deteriorated,

perhaps, the albedo or permeability would be altered... causing the eventual loss of atmosphere.

 

if they used some other weapons, perhaps a 'subspace tear' was opened briefly,

exposing a localized area to a heightened amount of EMR etc.

 

 

[Ethreon]

There's no indication of who fired first precisely, and the rest of the world is presumed to be far more destroyed than the US wastelands.