Redesign Launch - Stage 2 in progress

[twowolves80]

 

did you miss the part where I said 'I've left my suggestions in the feedback forum'?

 

its not like there's any link to the feedback thread in this news article. its not clear where you're supposed to leave feedback.

 

you've gone out of your way to tell anyone with an issue that its their problem. not very constructive yourself. no need to police every comment.

 

After the first ten-thousand posts, you start getting burned out. lol Don't worry, I got you.

 

Here is a link to a thread that the web devs are reading. If you've already posted in that thread, great! Just sit back and bask in the knowledge that because you offered constructive feedback, our community got a little better.

 

:)

[Farvahar]

Yikes!

 

Um, what problem is this new layout supposed to fix?

[joebobman]

there should be a setting on the user page to change back to the old website without having to manually edit every single one of my bookmarks and any links i follow onto this site.

 

also, change for change's sake is almost never positive. the fetishization of "modernizing" everything is incredibly unhealthy.

Edited December 14, 2017 by joebobman

[mcdanielskh]

In response to post #55865556. #55876431, #55886026, #55887056, #55887846, #55889711, #55892361, #55896501, #55903126, #55912996, #55918846, #55922706, #55933531, #55944111, #55953781 are all replies on the same post.

schnubbel76 wrote: I hate the new design so much

Graslama wrote: Why?

schnubbel76 wrote: I've explained it so much, i write every other day that i hate that. It is not good structured, it looks flat, i miss or dont find some old funtions, the colors are crap, the buttons are crap, it feeles unintuitive, i just dont like it, no i hate it and i will never understand why they felt the need to change it in the first place. It was good as it was. Never touch a working system. If only they would have made it better, but that is not the case. Nothing is better at all. At least not for the user. Maybe there were technical reasons to do this crap. But to me as a user, i feel f*#@ed by nexus.
I know i am not able to change it and nobody will listen to me or my feelings about this and at least it is not my website, it is theirs, so nobody will give a single f*** about my opinion, but what i can do is tell them every other day, that i hate it forever and ever and i hate the nexus team for changing it. They need to know even if nobody cares. In a democracy, thats the least i can do. Using my right to stand up and say "I hate you". So thats what i do.

slippyguy wrote: Give some proper feedback and your opinion will be taken into account.

RestlessPilgrim wrote: Define "proper feedback" then because it's not like the numerous complaints aren't pretty clear! Didn't ask for it, don't like it, can't search properly, etc etc etc Just because people disagree with something you want to force on us doesn't make 'em wrong!

Ethreon wrote: Proper feedback - give feedback on the new version, either specifying what is wrong and you want changed, or what could be improved. The old one is not coming back.
"I hate it" is not really of any use to anyone.

schnubbel76 wrote: I dont see it in my responsibility to be "of use". I have just an opinion, i am very very sad about the changes that i mentioned and i dont want to be part of the thinktank for further changes. I want the old one back and as you say, that is not gonnna happen. So all is left to me is being frustrated and say it out loud, because somehow it helps me emotionally. At least more as if i just would remain silent. I know it is of no use. But it is not my duty to be of use for anybody. I have to endure the new design. So you have to endure my criticism. And i in return have to endure your criticism of my criticism. Circle of life.

LavaCroft wrote: If you're just going to complain for the complaining without even attempting to provide any kind of valuable feedback, I would create a Twitter account or something.

Freeloading complainers like you don't realize that you do indeed have the power to cause changes in the design of the website. However, only if you are actually able to verbally express yourself in a way that explains your grievances and what the developers could do to improve the situation. Stop crying, stop complaining, try and help the developers improve on the things you feel are bad.

It's a situation where nobody loses, everybody wins and the website improves.

schnubbel76 wrote: Lava Croft, ok, heres what the developers can do to improve the situation. Give us the option to switch back to the old website. Then im fine. No complaining anymore.

MARTMM3571 wrote: It would counter productive to run two versions of the site.

slippyguy wrote: Are you planning to pay for the development time spent supporting a legacy layout?

mcdanielskh wrote: You just sound like a big crying Baby that's scared of his new rattler and wants his old one back.
Give real input or shut the hell up!! Please.

schnubbel76 wrote: mcdanielskh I dont give a s#*! about what you think about me as a person or my behaviour. I said i hate the new layout. Whats the big deal. You dont have to like what im saying. You dont even have to read it or take part in this argument. You can say to me that you hate me, or that you think im a crying baby, you even can wish me to die on cancer. But dont you ever try to shut me up. I dont know where you are coming from, but in my country we are allowed to speak freely. You will never take that away from me.

mcdanielskh wrote: schnubbel76 I did say Please :)
Look, I don't hate you, and I seriously doubt that even you can whine enough to make anybody want to kill you. (Although I could be wrong).
I just wish you would take a anti-drama pill and move on for god's sake.

As far as where we are from, that's irrelevant, and I don't see how this has anything to do with freedom of speech. but FYI I am an American, and value freedom of speech.I have also been told to shut up many times in my life, usually because I need to be told to shut up. I am also not afraid to stand up and shout for what i believe when it is needed, like when it interferes with basic liberties like "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" and no our founding fathers of the constitution were not talking about you personal happiness to have the Nexus page look just like you want or else. Do you not hear how "entitled" you sound? If you truly understand the meaning of "freedom of speech" you would also know that freedom of speech does not give you the right to disturb the peace and make a general nuisance/ass of yourself.

So ok, we all have heard how you just hate this new Nexus Layout, that you don't want to help make it better and that you just want to make noise and you feel you have a right to make as much noise as you want. Well friend, I will use my 1st amendment right to tell you that you are not standing up for your freedom of speech, you're just being a general a-hole. (oh BTW, you don't have a free speech right on the Nexus. The Nexus is very open in regard to speech, but they have the right to bounce you if they want. You can get your own web site if you want to say anything you want, but I digress..)
Now if you had actionable input for these great people here at the Nexus to work with and they were trying to shut you up, I would be standing right next to you being as loud with it as I can :)

Really though man, just chill bro. Don't take this stuff so seriously man. No one is attacking you personally. It's just words on a page man. If this stuff makes you wonder if people want to kill you, may I suggest seeing a Doctor for some medication or at least finding another hobby.

schnubbel76 wrote: I am disturbing peace? Thats something i dont hear often :D

See, you may be right, this whole thing went out of control. But is that really my fault? Look how it started. I only wrote on sentence about my frustration. Thats it. Everyone could have ignore it, but they didn't. From the very beginning i was put into defending myself for saying that. And with every time i was defending my saying, i got more hate and had to defend myself more.
Everybody could have read my statement, think "ok, another whining a-hole" and go on. But no, it seems i had to be put in place and explaining myself for some reason.

So i am not convinced, that it was really me disturbing that peace. I felt more disturbed in my own peace with defending myself over and over again.

schnubbel76 Hey man your cool, I didn't need to flame you so hard. I see what you mean by being placed on the defensive. You certainly are not the only one that I wanted to yell at about being whiny , your post just kind of put me over the edge with the not wanting to help with feedback but wanting to keep complaining and all. I don't take back what I said, but I hope you will forgive the roughness in how I said it. Lookin back at my post, perhaps that was not necessary.

You know I am not a New Nexus fanboy either.. I still liked the look of the old Nexus better, but personally; I have not had many issues with the function of the new Nexus. It's been more just a matter of getting use to thinks being a little different. I admit though that I have not been downloading at all yet, just browsing mods, and I did a few searches with simple filters, but I have had no problem. I will say I liked how vibrant and contrasty the old Nexus was compared to this new one, and I agree with many of the inputs people have given about color, font, and the overall flat look making it less easy to read. I admit at first look the new one looks more "up to date" even more slick and professional looking I think, but I would give some of that back to have a little more of the feel of the old Nexus. I wish I could quantify or qualify what it is that feels different, but I can't put my finger on it exactly.
However, I also realize that this may all be physiological in that I'm just not use to the new Nexus yet. A year or two from now if we are able to go back (we will not be able to, this is just a hypothetical) and look at the old Nexus, it will/would probably look like amature hour compaired to the new one. Yes, the New Nexus needs some work but everybody knew it would, that why your input is needed. I have seen nothing thats a game ender, it all looks like some minor tweaking to me.
Hey schnubbel76 the designers do need your input, it just needs to be something they can work with. Start simple. Pick one thing at a time to give input on. I would choose the thing that I dislike the most. Do your best to describe the problem with facts and examples, try to keep the emotional wording to a minimum. (good advice to myself as well) and if you have a sugest fix, try to be as descriptive as possible. I know you don't have to help or give input. You're totally right, but doesn't it make more sense to help and give input?

Again, I'm sorry for the flames man :) Edited December 14, 2017 by mcdanielskh

[NexBeth]

Yikes!

 

Um, what problem is this new layout supposed to fix?

It does the fix the problem that phone users have with using the site, which is 20% user usage. 20% income coming into paying for the site?

[PatientNull]

Why does everything need preview pictures? Will there be an option for a "true" titles/list view ?

 

It was much easier for the eye to quickly go through the top mod files in the old design without preview pictures.

[austinmercz]

Love the redesign, keep up the great work <3

[rajti15]

I'm sorry, but this was a horrible idea. Were you infiltrated by bethesda.net or something?

[sweetrolls4life]

I really like the redesign.

The shitstorm below is just hilarious. Honestly, some people need to seriously calm down a bit.

 

In my opinion, they did a great job with the new layout and I am SO glad they finally made the site responsive, so even if you have an older and tiny smartphone (like I have) the page looks good.

So thank you for that! :)

[sopmac45]

In response to post #55978456.

chickenjoe208 wrote: I really like the redesign.
The shitstorm below is just hilarious. Honestly, some people need to seriously calm down a bit.

In my opinion, they did a great job with the new layout and I am SO glad they finally made the site responsive, so even if you have an older and tiny smartphone (like I have) the page looks good.
So thank you for that! :)

I do like it also. It does look awesome in my two computers ( apple and windows ) and my phone. I can see now that it is faster than before, much faster and I agree, they did a great job.

And some will continue expressing their disagreement in different ways. C'mon, we are 7 thousand million people on the planet and every single one of us is a different world. We should not expect that everyone accept and love the new site and that is fine and completely understandable.

The thing is that it is what it is and we are not going back, so we have a lot of people happy with it ( and I represent myself ) and some that will continue very unhappy. Perhaps 6 months from now, they will turn to accept it and finally love it.