New design constructive feedback

[XsilentsnakeX]

I'd prefer the old layout much more over the newer layout and never had troubles with it. Can you add a option between old layout and new layout at least. New layout has to much going on with the box design. I just don't like new design. It seems flawed compared to old since so much is going on with the new. Old was much more simpler to use and navigate.

[kenobi1]

I'd prefer the old layout much more over the newer layout and never had troubles with it. Can you add a option between old layout and new layout at least. New layout has to much going on with the box design. I just don't like new design. It seems flawed compared to old since so much is going on with the new. Old was much more simpler to use and navigate.

Read the thread. You'll have the answer to this.

 

*facepalm*

[WaterRabbit]

Add me to the group that believes the images are too large. The search doesn't seem to work with standard search modifier such at using the minus sign to exclude items (so google seems to be the way to find things on the site). There is way too much scrolling for so few items presented. Also limiting the number of items to 20 when 100 was the base on the old site is annoying at best.

 

For a game like Skyrim, which has something like 28,000+ mods on this site displaying 20 at a time? Even the Steam workshop displays more (30) with giant images as well. I could see limiting it to 20 if they all fit on one page and you could just hit the next button without having to scroll. Not even close to an ergonomic design. It is even more annoying when a mod author has a one word description.

 

The drop down search feature uses way too much real estate compared to the old site and one has to keep popping it up and down to fiddle with the search results. Even more annoying, the search bar is separated from the search filters.

 

The mod pages have the information spread all over the place as well, requiring constant scanning of the page to find the information one is looking for.

 

Overall, this looks like it was optimized for a 640 x 480 display. It think most of us PC gamers are running with monitors that are larger than 19" and have fairly high resolutions.

 

Also, the site is still slow. I have a 250 mb connection and the new site is noticeably slower than the old site.

 

I am not quite sure what the design is trying to accomplish. It does not facilitate searching for items and it doesn't facilitate browsing for items.

 

The whole section that has the requirements, permissions and credits, and translations seems like it should be at the bottom of the description tab instead of the top. It also seems that for many mods, the embedded pictures in the descriptions are no longer displaying.

 

What my impression of the mod page is that the most important information is buried below ancillary items such as the tags section.

 

The only change I have seen that I really like is the indicator that the mod has been updated since the last time I downloaded it when browsing the search pages.

[ryoendymon]

Sadly I do not know why this entire thread exists.

It seems the new site format is overwhelmingly unpopular based on a cursory thumb through of this thread, but responses from even an admin show me how the nexus feels about its users.

One fellow gave his opinion, but included a line about how the site should not give consideration to people who would use this site on their phone. The admin response boiled down to "I dont like hearing that part, so I am going to ignore EVERYTHING you said"

Frankly this thread should not exist, because the criticisms are not being accepted, they are being dismissed

That said, here is my criticism of the new layout.

1: Often times I do search for specific things and am told on this site they do not exist, then I google it and it brings me strait to the nexus page.

2: Eveything feels like it takes up too much screen real-estate and when I do broad searches it feels like I am seeing far less at a time, making broad searches take longer.

 

3: I dislike dropdowns, I find them clunky, and annoying to manage, the old format of being able to tag off some filters on the right side of the screen felt more reminiscent of far bigger, and more successful sites. (Amazon for example) and made navagation quick, simple, and caused my goal to be reached.

In short, this site has become far more difficult to use, and I find myself using google to find the mod pages to be far more effective than the sites own search features.

 

So far it seems all that is wanted of this thread is an echo chamber of people yelling "good job" But that is not what you will hear from me. Like many others I would love to see an option to use the old inderface.

 

I will close with this.

Modding a game is already a time consuming process, cleaning master files, dealing with conflicts, sorting load orders, and never knowing what mod you might download that will utterly break everything. Previously the easiest part of the process was finding the mods on the nexus. But now even that feels like an off-putting labor. This site was always well received, easy to use, and basically held half a monopoly. But if things progress this way, which feels less user friendly, I fear the nexus will becoming the myspace of the modding world, after all, there is always the steam workshop for authors to upload their mods to.

[Dark0ne]

So far it seems all that is wanted of this thread is an echo chamber of people yelling "good job" But that is not what you will hear from me.

 

 

Nope, what we wanted was constructive feedback. We've had plenty and have already made a lot of changes based on the feedback in this thread and the news post. We'll continue to do this into the new year and beyond. So thanks to anyone who's provided suggestions and areas for improvement.

[ryoendymon]

 

So far it seems all that is wanted of this thread is an echo chamber of people yelling "good job" But that is not what you will hear from me.

 

 

Nope, what we wanted was constructive feedback. We've had plenty and have already made a lot of changes based on the feedback in this thread and the news post. We'll continue to do this into the new year and beyond. So thanks to anyone who's provided suggestions and areas for improvement.

 

Forgive me for finding that difficult to believe. The time I have spent thumbing through this thread has shown an almost universal distain for the new design, and those who defend the new design seem to be doing so in a very juvinile manner.

 

And people saying they do not like it seem to be met with the wall of "it's here, deal with it." This is not how receiving constructive criticism works. Dropdowns are clunky, and bothersom, screenside filters are far more clean and user friendly. Frankly that was one of my favorite things about the old site, and amazon, and practically every site that exists where you may need to thumb through pages upon pages of items to find your desired product.

 

And as I have stated before, the searches seem highly unreliable. Sometimes I will search for something by name, and bam there it is, other times I get effectively a "no results" new tab>google>same search criteria>first or second link is the nexus page I wanted.

 

As long as my searches are broad, and aimless, I can usually find something with a level of reliability, but I (and many others) enjoy filters, so why not a filter at the very least, for the tags that are listed on all the mod pages

 

Filters/Tags/Sorting. These are the hallmarks of a good way to search an archive, and frankly this site is not intuitive for these criteria.

[twowolves80]

 

 

So far it seems all that is wanted of this thread is an echo chamber of people yelling "good job" But that is not what you will hear from me.

 

 

Nope, what we wanted was constructive feedback. We've had plenty and have already made a lot of changes based on the feedback in this thread and the news post. We'll continue to do this into the new year and beyond. So thanks to anyone who's provided suggestions and areas for improvement.

 

Forgive me for finding that difficult to believe. The time I have spent thumbing through this thread has shown an almost universal distain for the new design, and those who defend the new design seem to be doing so in a very juvinile manner.

 

And people saying they do not like it seem to be met with the wall of "it's here, deal with it." This is not how receiving constructive criticism works.

Uh, yes it is, when those same people are being told over and over that the new site is here to stay and Nexus is not switching back to the old because Dark0ne said so. He was very clear about it.

 

Yes, you'll just have to accept that he said so. His name is on the site paperwork as OWNER. This isn't a democracy, you get absolutely no say in anything done in this website. If Dark0ne decides he wants to paint the entire site bloody pink, we have nothing to say about it. Nexusmods.com is private property. Not a publicly-issued stock subject to a board of regents or the whim of the voting public.

 

This thread isn't for people to sit there and bash the devs, the admins, and anyone who agrees with the staff or wants to post a simple thank you or word of encouragement. The theme of the thread is right there in the title, in 72-flaming-point letters. This thread is for offering constructive feedback so that the dev, Kit, has all of it in one or two threads and she can just skim through and cherry-pick the feedback.

 

Now, you've given several salient points in your posts, which will be helpful to Kit. You were very specific, which is what she wants/needs. This, however, does not give you the right to dictate whether or not Dark0ne decides to use the old site as the default, or the new. This doesn't give the mouth-breathers a right to post with idiocy like, "Uh, this site sux balls, go back to the old, I hate you, I hate my life, I hate everything, you're driving me away from the Nexus, hurr durr..."

 

So why waste thread space asking for something that isn't going to happen? That leaves one of two answers:

 

1. "I was too lazy to read through ten pages or so, including the initial OP."

 

or

 

2. "I'm a whiny, grotty little wanker who wants to crap-post about how I hate the site without adding anything to the convo."

 

We don't have the right to demand Dark0ne go back to the previous site, and frankly, I wish he'd just pull the plug on the old site and be done with it so we wouldn't have to read any more whining about it and the damned search engine between the two would finally stabilize.

 

It's the attempting to find a user profile on the search. It doesn't always work so hot and takes us to a blank white page with xxx/search= in the heading, so it's not...hooking? I dunno...It's like it's not getting to the search results page when the button is set to Author and you search a name on the new site.

 

Furthermore, who cares about their universal disdain? Yeah, we may lose a few, but the vast silent majority of users on the Nexus keep on using it and just adapt. All they are doing is cluttering a thread with irrelevant posts under the misguided belief that they are entitled to anything at all--even a response from a dev or Dark0ne himself. Any response anyone gets here by the admins or Dark0ne is by grace alone as the site owner has the right to do as he wishes, and he clearly thinks there is a profit to be made on the new site that he has all but said he wants to invest right back into us as a community.

 

The worst part is, by not reading the posts that came before (even 5-10 pages, seriously), most of these people are missing my and others' posts that lay out Dark0ne's words from other threads showing the timeline he is operating on.

 

First, Vortex, then the site, then profit. You don't like his timeline? Click on his avatar right above your last post and then PM him.

[ryoendymon]

I have said my peace on the entire situation honestly.

Repeating my points serves no purpose, and while often ill worded, all criticism is constructive

If he or she is going to listen to anything I have said, my points are out there. However my comparisons to websites such as amazon, are there deliberately.

The new site design and layout has actually moved AWAY from emulating some of the most popular and successful formats that exist. Amazon, Steam, Newegg, Tiger Direct, etc. These are sites that successfully do the exact thing the nexus exists for, searching a large archive, If any of the features I mentioned already exist in the site, this goes to put on display my exact point about it not being user friendly, as these types of filters etc should be present on the page, no one should ever have to ask how to find them.

You are right, he can do what he wants, but at his own peril. This site is ad supported (but most people use ad blockers because we don't want malware) as well as donation supported (reliant on users being happy with the site) and now I have noticed a membership to hide some features behind a paywall (again reliant on users being happy with the site)

But if he can tweak the site to work better, to make things overall a better experience, then that is great, and can be embraced. But right now it just feels like a simple, horrible UI

[twowolves80]

I have said my peace on the entire situation honestly.

 

Repeating my points serves no purpose, and while often ill worded, all criticism is constructive

Not true. When the OP states, "Post specific issues you notice here so we can address them," and then crap-posters ignore this and continue with un-specific ranting and begging for a return that is never going to happen, how is that constructive?

 

The new site design and layout has actually moved AWAY from emulating some of the most popular and successful formats that exist. Amazon, Steam, Newegg, Tiger Direct, etc. These are sites that successfully do the exact thing the nexus exists for, searching a large archive, If any of the features I mentioned already exist in the site, this goes to put on display my exact point about it not being user friendly, as these types of filters etc should be present on the page, no one should ever have to ask how to find them.

This is because they didn't have a web dev for the initial portion of setting up the new site, and Dark0ne admitted they made some mistakes, but the schedule was that Vortex was to be released in the beginning of 2018, and then the web dev, Kit, would turn her attention to the site and start addressing issues she found in these threads. Vortex hasn't even been released yet, so we still have a month or two before the site really starts getting overhauled.

 

You are right, he can do what he wants, but at his own peril. This site is ad supported (but most people use ad blockers because we don't want malware) as well as donation supported (reliant on users being happy with the site) and now I have noticed a membership to hide some features behind a paywall (again reliant on users being happy with the site)

 

But if he can tweak the site to work better, to make things overall a better experience, then that is great, and can be embraced. But right now it just feels like a simple, horrible UI

It's $2. Not $200. Not even $20. I can go dig through my couch cushions and find at least half of that $2. Probably take a bag of aluminum cans to recycling for the rest. And I use adblockers, too, but I'd still have given the $2 to Dark0ne if for no other reason than because I've definitely gotten my money's worth over the years. Membership doesn't hide all that many features. There's very little extra you get aside from faster downloads, which has been the main draw, but now that fascist Ajit Pai took over the FCC, and destroyed net neutrality, that will probably start changing as telecoms have just been given the green light to gouge customers as much as they can.

 

Be patient. Changes are coming. Dark0ne has said that changes are coming after Vortex. So let's wait for Vortex and see what happens.

[EquironoS]

Searching for a topic in google to find solution for changing back the original look is enough for me to say, (meanwhile reading some other's opinions) this new look is terrible. My eyes are bleeding any my brain starts melting, when I stay on the site for a longer time. The old site had a tons of options to sort the things you are searching for. Now there a tons of informations in a single page, that I don't need and disturbs me. The contrasts between the colors were pretty good and made everything easier to find. On the new sites there are just shades of black and grey, so give it some life! Informations and short details of the mods are much important than the huge images and titles. On the old site I just kept the mouse on the mod and could read some details without opening new page (which is now still slow). This proccess just encourage the mod makers to win the people with shiny good pictures, rather than giving precise informations and details about their mod(s). [Or just less space to read details on the new, the goal is for us, mod searchers to gain more informations about the mods, fast.]

 

Its very good to see, that you want to show us, that you use the donations well and pay attention to keep the site going and improve. Very appreciated. But I need to say, the new is not always the best. Improving the trustworthy "old" (prefer to say: original) is a more secured and wiser way and path to renew. For e.g. the tracking centre is now awesome :O

 

For now, I will stay with the old.nexus solution. The day when you either "fix" or admit to you wanted too much change, I will donate, I promise! :D Now I'm just a "Free to play" who is whining about the changing, but I'm also grateful for you guys, making the witcher 3 game more awesome :D

 

"There are just my opinions, my current settings, in total I vote for the original look."