ENB Binaries causing major fps drops

[xXEl3mXx]

Hey guys, so i'm not exactly sure whats going on here but i'll try to be as thorough in explaining my problem as i can,

Basically whenever i add the ENB Binaries to SSE just the d3dcompiler_46e.dll and d3d11.dll without any ENB settings/files, i get hit with a major fps drop 40-50 fps in some areas it even cuts my fps in half from around 140 to 70, i've tried both .320 binaries and .325 binaries and they both have the exact same issue,

Now i'm not gonna post a modlist mainly because i'm only running 6 things atm, USSEP, SKSE, SkyUI, SSE Fixes, DLL Plugin Loader, and Alternate Start, other than that its base SSE with default ultra ini's,

So anyways to go into more detail, the problem is especially prevalent in areas where there are fps drops with base SSE, I've mostly only benchmarked Solitude, so anyhow to give you an idea, i started a new game with alternate start joining the imperial legion, my test areas are, looking in the direction of the blue palace after exiting castle dour, the small tunnel which leads to beirand this tunnel usually gives me a 20 fps drop even with base SSE, looking in the direction of the blue palace from the solitude gate while in solitude which usually drops me about 40~ fps, looking down the road directly after exiting solitude and not movie, and then finally just overlooking the mill from where the khajiit caravan usually sits,

 

Looking at the Blue Palace after exiting castle dour - Base : 120 FPS avg,

Looking at the Blue Palace after exiting castle dour - ENB Binaries : 88 FPS avg,

Standing at the exit of the small tunnel looking at Bits n Pieces - Base : 105 FPS avg,

Standing at the exit of the small tunnel looking at Bits n Pieces - ENB Binaries : 60 FPS avg,

Standing at the solitude gates looking in the direction of the blue palace - Base : 85 FPS avg,

Standing at the solitude gates looking in the direction of the blue palace - ENB Binaries : 49 FPS avg,

Looking down the road after exiting solitude - Base : 85 FPS avg,

Looking down the road after exiting solitude - ENB Binaries : 45 FPS avg,

Looking over the mill from the caravan - Base : 104 FPS avg,

Looking over the mill from the caravan - ENB Binaries : 56 FPS avg,

So i'm not exactly an expert but i don't those drops are... normal, i'll make an Imgur album with screenshots later on, but for now on to my specs,

Galax GTX 1060 6gb EXOC
AMD-FX8300 @ 4.2ghz

Kingston ValueRam 2x8gb @ 1600mhz
MSI 970A-G43 Plus mobo

Corsair vs550 PSU

1tb HDD

Samsung S19f350 19 Inch Monitor @ 1366x768 res,

 

i'm currently planning on downloading w7 and seeing if the problem persists on it, because from what i've read people say Boris ain't supporting w10 with the enbs so i'm wondering if there is any issues there, other than that i have no idea what to do next, as my mod list is basically non existent and my ini's are default, mainly just wondering if anyone else has experienced an issue like this and managed to fix it.

TL:DR Experiencing major FPS loss from simply adding the ENB binaries to my SSE.

EDIT: Imgur album : https://imgur.com/a/2ueBT

Edited December 31, 2017 by xXEl3mXx

[JimmyRJump]

Normally, SSE is capped at 60fps and going over it causes some serious issues. That cap is an engine limitation, by the way, so, I don't quite follow...

[xXEl3mXx]

Normally, SSE is capped at 60fps and going over it causes some serious issues. That cap is an engine limitation, by the way, so, I don't quite follow...

Problem is in some areas i experience less than 50 fps with ENB binaries added where as i was getting almost 100 fps without the binaries.

[JimmyRJump]

 

Normally, SSE is capped at 60fps and going over it causes some serious issues. That cap is an engine limitation, by the way, so, I don't quite follow...

Problem is in some areas i experience less than 50 fps with ENB binaries added where as i was getting almost 100 fps without the binaries.

 

And I said that SSE has a 60fps cap due to engine limitations. So, how did you go over 60fps in the first place?

 

I'm on an MSI RX470 GamingX 8GB and while mostly getting 60fps, I also have drops to 40-50fps in certain areas. 345 mods, 222 plug-ins, 1080p in ultra, NVT-NAT ENB Preset in its Highest Quality setting with the 0.325 binaries from 28 December and umpteen texture mods in 2 and 4k.

[TheWilloughbian]

I always though it was expected than an ENB would halve your framerate. If you're getting 50 fps with an ENB, I'd say that's quite good.

 

If my game goes a frame or two over 60 fps veggies and cheese wheels start bouncing all over Whiterun.

[xXEl3mXx]

 

 

Normally, SSE is capped at 60fps and going over it causes some serious issues. That cap is an engine limitation, by the way, so, I don't quite follow...

Problem is in some areas i experience less than 50 fps with ENB binaries added where as i was getting almost 100 fps without the binaries.

 

And I said that SSE has a 60fps cap due to engine limitations. So, how did you go over 60fps in the first place?

 

I'm on an MSI RX470 GamingX 8GB and while mostly getting 60fps, I also have drops to 40-50fps in certain areas. 345 mods, 222 plug-ins, 1080p in ultra, NVT-NAT ENB Preset in its Highest Quality setting with the 0.325 binaries from 28 December and umpteen texture mods in 2 and 4k.

 

 

The frame cap has nothing to do with my problem at all, But you can disable it by, setting bLockFramerate=0 in Skyrim.ini and iVSyncPresentInterval=0 in SkyrimPrefs.ini,

 

Note that i'm not actually playing with the framerate cap off i only switched it off to try and figure out why my SSE was running fine at 60fps with no drops at all and then adding the ENB binaries caused it to drop to 40fps in most areas, and that is when i found out only adding the dll's to the game cut the framerate in half basically which imo shouldn't be happening, a 20 fps drop is what i expected not 40-50 fps drop,

 

I'm running 0 graphical mods except the enb itself and already i'm struggling to maintain 50 fps in some areas, if i start adding 2-4k textures with weather mods and a bunch of other crap i have no doubt thats gonna fall to 30 fps.

 

I always though it was expected than an ENB would halve your framerate. If you're getting 50 fps with an ENB, I'd say that's quite good.

 

If my game goes a frame or two over 60 fps veggies and cheese wheels start bouncing all over Whiterun.

Problem is back on Oldrim, with an ENB and my old GTX 650 Ti, i was getting 50 fps stable with 2k textures and bunch of graphical mods but that was a low ass setup so i expected that, but now i'm running a better cpu and a way better gpu and i can't even hit 50 fps in SSE with simply the ENB dll's added,

 

Now if i added an ENB and it cost me half my fps i wouldn't have an issue but adding ENB settings on top of the ENB binaries cost me another 10-20 fps, making the ENB cost me about 60~ fps in general.

[TheWilloughbian]

Still, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Percentage wise, the frame drops you are seeing look about normal for the game with the settings gassed. If your not falling below 40 fps I wouldn't sweat it.

I mean, you could try upgrading your PSU, see if that doesn't give it the kick in the ass you are looking for, but that can get pricey. Looking at your system specs though, that looks to be where you might get your bottle neck. Your GPU could be starved a little for juice.

[xXEl3mXx]

Still, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Percentage wise, the frame drops you are seeing look about normal for the game with the settings gassed. If your not falling below 40 fps I wouldn't sweat it.

I mean, you could try upgrading your PSU, see if that doesn't give it the kick in the ass you are looking for, but that can get pricey. Looking at your system specs though, that looks to be where you might get your bottle neck. Your GPU could be starved a little for juice.

Usually i would look at that, i know especially in cpu based games my cpu does bottleneck a bit and i'm pretty sure that's happening with SSE as i never see 99% gpu usage with vsync/frameratelock off, but so far i've had no issues with my GPU running full power, hit 99% usage in The Witcher 3 with vsync off for hours on end with no issues at all, so i'm fairly sure my gpu isn't starved for more power,

[TheWilloughbian]

Your CPU looks fine. I'm saying your power supply might be what's holding your system back. You might need 750 watts. 550 watts might be a little under powered for the hardware you have. Edited January 1, 2018 by TheWilloughbian

[zajkoajko]

Not sure if it will help you but just for comparison: i5, 960 2GB - 30 -40 FPS average with ENB and its AO turned ON. 40 -60 without AO.

 

Same cant be said about area around Riften. There I never get more than 40 with AO and not more than 50 without AO.

 

All that even with use of SSE Fixes by meh321 and only 70 .esp mods. (all tho almost all textures in game changed)